The modern game

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Shroud, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. 5263

    5263 G.O.A.T.

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    I intended to agree with your point about most pros using versions of modern along with responding to guyclinch's comment about defining things.
    I guess I could have been more clear on that, :???:
     
  2. tlm

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    Great description and very accurate, hopefully this will make it easier for more players to understand.
     
  3. 5263

    5263 G.O.A.T.

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    thanks tlm and note I made a correction related to shoulder turn and took out the confusing reference to 180 degrees.
     
  4. 5263

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    All of these players are quite modern with their strokes.
     
  5. Cheetah

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    Are you not yet aware of the fact that 'necro-bumping' is frowned upon in online communities?
     
  6. 5263

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    I don't mind if you frown. Knock yourself out. Seems you want to be a mod, so maybe you can contact them and see if they need more help? I expect you'd find out it was a forum, so folks can read and comment on what interest them. Are you set up so that you have to read every comment someone makes? On my computer, I can glance down and see what topics I find interesting and then just ignore those I don't. Works great.
     
  7. Zolar

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    OMG, we need a physics professor to really explain this! does a lighter racquet bounce back from a heavy spinning ball, and therefore not affect the spin of the ball as much as a heavier racquet that doesn't bounce back and drives through the ball. It kind of makes sense to my amateur brain.
     
  8. 5263

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    I can only say that I don't like a light or heavy racket. Seems there is a near ideal racket weight that can vary up some due to strength and technique quality.
     
  9. Cheetah

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    Bumping dead threads is frowned upon in most forums. Many people over the years have told you this time and time again, yet you continue to do it.
    And I'm not even talking about you bumping your own threads or any threads related to your MTM agenda either.

    This is one of the reasons you're always at odds with various numbers of people at any one time on this forum. Whenever I do a search for a topic and come across a thread from say 2008, or 2007 or whatever, I find the same thing.. people complaining about you bumping threads, you and some other people arguing over mtm etc, you claiming you're getting picked on for no reason etc etc.

    So when you repeat the same behavior over and over you should expect the same outcome, namely people calling you out on it.
     
  10. boramiNYC

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    They are modern (≠ Modern in MTM).
     
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  11. 5263

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    yes, I know. Probably has something to do with me not being too concerned about it. Glad you noticed that. Never was too interested in the herd that thinks they are the in crowd and can harass others into following their ways. Is that a Bro-mance thing?

    Since you are sooo concerned though, I did a search for a topic and this was one of the 3 most recent on that topic. That should comfort you some. Imo the fact that you are looking back thru those old threads shows there is interest in them as well, if I was concerned about that...which I'm not.
     
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  12. Cheetah

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    You didn't have to spell it out for us as we all know you are not concerned with etiquette. That's why the only one on this forum who does it on a regular basis.

    ... and I'll keep bringing it up every time you do it so that new members will know about you and your mtm agenda.
     
  13. mightyrick

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    Well, since you don't worry about the fact that your forum etiquette and tactics are totally lacking courtesy, then you shouldn't worry about the fact that many people are going lack courtesy in dealing with you... mocking you, your tactics, and your viewpoints.

    As you should know... the way in which you will be received by others depends greatly on how you present yourself. As we already know, MTM minions generally lack any kind of courtesy and tact. Hence, many people who might actually listen to you otherwise... won't bother even looking into MTM because you guys behave so ridiculously.

    The second things get quiet... no talk about MTM at all in a few days... there is solid general discussion... and there is a peace on this forum... you guys drop trou and take a steaming crap right in the middle of it. Without fail.
     
  14. sureshs

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    Of course. The catch is that you will need to be able to swing the heavier one effectively.
     
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    You'll get much more spin if you rotate your forearm whilst you swing violently upwards. Naturally this tip is irrelevant if you cannot time the swing, as your shot will only be as good as the contact you make. I would recommend doing both but not 'violently'.

    Rotating the forearm to generate topspin allows you to hit heavy spin on even a very 'flat' swingpath, which makes BIG shots much easier as you a strong low to high path can cause really fast shots to sail long even with a lot of topspin.

    There is a poster here who says that you should be trying to hit with a lot of sidespin as well as topspin, which is closer to the correct form than swinging strictly upwards, although I would state that you should be rotating your arm to generate topspin, and it does not matter if you are generating a lot of sidespin a the same time.
     
  16. Topspin Shot

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    I know how to generate topspin through pronation, the correct windshield wipe, etc. I was just making a point that flicking the wrist and/or turning the forearm over incorrect wiper style are not good ideas.
     
  17. 35ft6

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    You can keep a looser grip with a smaller racket, which in turn allows you to have a more relaxed arm, which can lead to more racket head speed.
     
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    :) LoL and why you guys whine about your bromance version of etiquette that many of us don't accept, others continue to post on topic in this interesting thread.
     
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    by smaller, do you mean lighter?
     
  20. sureshs

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    No he means one with a smaller grip size
     
  21. 5263

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    Thanks, I see where I missed his good point there.
     
  22. Spin Doctor

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    ROFL. Don't worry, they often end up stepping in their own turd.
     
  23. 5263

    5263 G.O.A.T.

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    Thanks for helping spread the word. Really want to share the best tips and instruction out there, so you be sure to help all you can, thanks!
     

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