The most devastating games of all time?

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  1. BrooklynNY

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    The 'Is Fed the smoothest game of all time' thread gave me this idea..

    Who or what group of players have the most brutal or devastating games of all time? A lot of times you hear of a player 'taking the racquet out of players hand', what players do you think exemplify this? I like elegant, nice looking tennis, but I also love some power, and players that play a big game and when they are in the zone, they just bring an unplayable game to the table.

    Some picks that come to mind off top are obviously Sampras and Nadal, and maybe even a Soderling or Del Potro, possibly Marat Safin? I'm not so familiar with this era, but I've heard Pancho Gonzalez brought a big game to the table. Any others? What do you guys think?
     
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  2. Tesla was serb

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    What about:
    Richard Krajicek
    Goran Ivanisevic
    Boris Becker
    Kevin Curren
    Andrea Gaudenzi
    Stich (not as much)
    Gonzo
     
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    Petros at his best on carpet must have been about as painless as being incinerated by a 50 megaton hydrogen bomb.
     
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    Nothing is as devastating as this game.

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    ^^^ Why was this disturbing and gruesome picture necessary? What was the point? What was the purpose?
     
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    Soderling on his day would be first player that comes to mind. McEnroe stated that "he could've beaten anyone that day" when he ousted Federer last year at the FO. Look at the highlights - Fed is not playing bad, Sod was just in an entire new league
     
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    Yeah. That was beyond devastating.
     
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    Sampras would be my first pick. Players used to say that when he was playing well you could go an entire match without getting a decent swing at the ball

    Lendl and Becker would be similar on their day too imo.
     
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    i would say Bobele!!!
     
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    yeah bobele was awesome. :D
     
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    after watching him in Black rock i must make a correction
     
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    Ivanisevic service games on carpet.
     
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    Early Roddick...serve and forehand combo.
     
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    Why is Andrea Gaudenzi on that list ?? He was a grinder with mediocre (for a pro) movement. What's so devastating about that ?? And Gonzo...yeah...if you take forehand only into consideration.
    The rest ... I can see.
     
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    Mark Philippoussis and Boris Becker could both really just "bomb away". There are many guys with devastating games mentioned in the thread. Goran Ivanisevic is another guy that I would certainly mention. Even Stich could be very devastating. From the 70's-80's, I'd include some guys like Roscoe Tanner, Colin Dibley, and Victor Amaya (especially on fast courts).
     
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    NY ... do you really need to ask? The maestro, Pete Sampras without a doubt! :)

    For groups, I'd think the Australian cricket team in the early part of the last decade. Quite unstoppable they were!

     
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    Federer. Back when he was supreme, you could see how he suffocated opponents in set after set, holding with ridiculous ease with beautifully placed serves, and then chilling through return games till he saw a small opening midway through a set and boom... 6-3 or 6-4, easy as pie.
     
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    Boom Boom.

    when he was on, lookout.
     
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    That sounds very efficient and clinical, but not overly devastating, you know?
     
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    Pancho, Arthur Ashe, Connors, Safin, Sampras, Federer, Becker, etc. are just a few. Goran on grass or carpet, as well as a few other guys.
     
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    Federer. Even now, alot of guys just give up before they walk on the court.
     
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    On grass ->
    Sampras, Federer
    On clay ->
    Nadal, Borg, Vilas
    On hard-court ->
    Federer, Agassi
    On carpet ->
    Lendl, Becker

    Well and truly, any 8+ GS champion, on a very good day, is unbeatable on any surface and most opponents could play the match of their lives (PHM vs Nadal RG 2006, Suzuki vs Federer AO 2007 are just two) and will still lose. Nadal can be unbeatable on a hard-court, for example.
     
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    Any surface off clay, my vote goes to Sampras. When everything clicks for him, he was simply the greatest player I've ever seen, devastating serve with amazing net skills to back it up and a destructive fh to add to his arsenal.
     
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    If you mean the toughest strokes to handle I would say DelPo and Sod's power, Nadal's spin.
     
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    Federer without a doubt. The number of bagels he delivered in his prime is ridiculous
     
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    I'd say Federer too.
     
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    'taking the racquet out of players hand'

    Based on this part of the OP, Sampras, Nadal, Safin, Krajicek, and Del Potro rightfully belong in the conversation, but so does Federer.
     
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    Sampras by a country mile.

    Pistol Pete was the most authoritative player to ever play the game.

    He could impose his game on his opponents in a way that no else ever did, ever will or ever could.

    When Pete was ON, it didn't matter how good his opponents was; Pete just didn't let them play their game.
     
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    I agree. When he was really dominating his serve-forehand combo was basically unstoppable. Those "60 second special" service games were about as good an example of dominating tennis as you could imagine - lumping more and more pressure on the opponent's next service game. That would be pretty demoralising - especially since he plays so quickly.. rushing opponents which surely disrupts their rhythm also.
     
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    When it comes to pure devastation, one could not forget the short but rather good career of Joachim Johansson. Had it not been for all those injuries, he'd be the Krajicek of this generation, ie a danger to any opponent at any time. What he basically did was go "let's hit this ball as fast as I can and see what happens" and well, he beat Roddick in 4 sets at the USO and utterly destroyed Nadal in Stockholm.
     
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    Gonzalez in late 2006, early 2007 was a machine, and not just a forehand thing.

    His backhand might be an ugly stroke but he had lots of pace on it.

    His serve was deadly. His movement was top-notch.

    He was very complete actually. I think it was pretty demolishing, just like Del Potro pre-surgery.
     
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    scud definitely comes to mind, not sure anyone's ever hit bigger off both wings, and his serve was a sledgehammer. just check out this footage of sampras v. a young Mabriella Sabbatoussis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20y8ZP30zks
     
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    On Grass, and fast hard courts, i think fed and sampras were the most consistently devestating. although, at times goran can be too.

    On clay/slow hard court: Nadal! he is just a beast on clay!
     
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    Agassi
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    Del Potro
    F Gonzalez
    Nadal
    Philippoussis
    Karlovic
    Roddick
    Sampras
    Soderling
     
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    Gulbis can be
     
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    Even Pistol Pete struggled when the Scud was firing

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/1999/wimbledon/news/1999/07/02/sampras_side/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20y8ZP30zks
     
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    Amongst current players, Sod and Delpo. Sod at his best hit line after line, and Delpo could fire winners even down the middle of the court.
     
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    6-4 and 7-6 is utterly destroy? Lol, okay. What do you call a 6-1 6-3 6-0 scoreline in a GS final, then?
     
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    Not Really.I understand some people are huge fans of Pistol Pete but you cant call his game devastating unless you qualify it with a GRASS court tag. Even there you have some good competition for Sampras.

    I am sure you know Sampras's Clay court record.

    On the other hand there are many players who can be devastating across surfaces. Now that is what qualifies , in my book, for most devastating games of all time.

    Given the right conditions, most players are capable of playing a devastating game. The key is transcending that game across surfaces. Opponents should feel lost before they even enter the court as they would know this player can simply win by brutal display of Skill and power.Even players potentially ranked higher on this player should be concerned about playing this devastating player. In my book, again, this player should have solid credentials (ie should have won slams, etc).

    Most TW forum member players are known for such devastating games but in Pro ranks we have far and few.
     
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    Damn Nadal. First he changes the Tennis game. Now he started defining standards for Utter destroys. There was a time when 6-4,7-6 used to be considered a respectable score. Not when Nadal loses with that score i guess.
     
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    What's so devastating about Nadal's game? Ugly,perhaps.But to me he doesn't seem to be the kind of player who imposes his game on the opponent.
    I could call him demoralizing though because the guy gets back everything you throw at him with considerable sting especially on clay.I'm often left wondering-How do you hit a winner against this guy?
    I tend to think of brutally devastating games as those of the S&Vers particularly when they're seriously on(especially those who have a very strong serve).
    edit-I do agree with OPs choices of DP and Safin when they're playing well .
     
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    That's **** and kill, viking style.

    Turns out that the word for foreful sexual assault is censored here.
     
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    Soderling vs Del Potro is devastating enough!
     
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    Yeah, I can understand why some people don't like Sod - Delpo matches, but they are just cannon fests, the fearlessness in the shotmaking makes it worthy of watching alone.

    I also mentioned Safin in the OP, his game is explosive when he wants to be.
     
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    Considering that was Pim Pim's first tournament back after almost a 2 year layoff and Nadal had been playing constantly and constantly improving, yeah I'd say that's being "destroyed".
     
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    Most good players could have their day, and the great ones had a lot of days.

    Mac could slice you to ribbons and make it look so effortless, especially in 84. Ask Connors about the 84 Wimbledon final. Lendl could blow people off the court. Again ask Connors. A decade earlier Connors was wasting everyone he played in 74. Navratilova was devastating around 83-84. Steffi looked unbeatable in 88. If Serena brings her A game there's not much anyone can do. Becker had a run in late 89 when he won the USO where he was just killing everyone he played. On a good day Sampras was just unstopable, and he had a lot of good days. Federer had about half a decade where he just looked like he could hit a winner any time, any where.

    All of these players, and many many others, when they were on, were just imposing their games on their opponents. You could just watch and say to yourself, "How do you beat that?"

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    Martina was devastating during the late 1880's too, and perhaps even in the real tennis era, but I wasn't alive by then.
     
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