The Next Federer?

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  1. uxnaitoahz

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    I know Nadal has beaten Federer a few times this year. But I don't think he will replace Federer as the top dog. Who do you guys think has the potential to dethrone Federer?
     
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  2. SER

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    Djokovic, maybe Baghdatis, but nobody is going to dethrone him anytime soon
     
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  3. Chang

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    I don't think Federer will get off the no.1 spot for a while.
     
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  4. Marat Safinator

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    I agreee but I think Baghdatis, Djokovic, Korolev can do some damage.
     
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  5. unjugon

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    If Djokovic gets to number 1 in the world I quit playing or watching tennis.
     
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  6. uxnaitoahz

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    Haha, agreed.
     
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  7. superman1

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    Djokovic, so overrated.

    Baghdatis and Gasquet seem to have the best chance, but I don't think we'll see another Federer in a LONG time. It's nearly impossible to have that kind of consistency for so long.
     
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  8. shawn1122

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    Only Baghdatis has the potential. He's way better than the rest of the young players.
     
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  9. Jonas

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    The next Federer is Gasquet. I have been saying it for years. He has the game to do it right now, but the mental aspect is missing, but then again we all bummed on Federer untill '03 for being a mental midget.
    The similarities between the 2 are very ominous.
     
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  10. shawn1122

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    I've never seen Gasquet portray a great degree of shotmaking ability.
     
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  11. unjugon

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    Which player right now has more flair and shotmaking ability than Gasquet -other than Federer??
     
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  12. quest01

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    I dont think anyone will. Nobody will ever have the record he has had from 04 to now. That would be almost impossible for any player play at such a high level as Federer. So i dont think its ever going to happen.
     
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  13. VamosRafa

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    You are quite correct that Nadal is not the next Federer; he's the first Nadal. As Brad Gilbert said last year, at some point people will be looking at who is the next Nadal.

    And I do think Nadal will replace Federer as top dog at some point.

    I don't see anyone else out there being able to do it.
     
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  14. quest01

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    Nadal is a great player but he will always be remembered as a clay court specialist. He doesnt have the all court game like Federer does. Nadals only true strength is clay and unfortunately when his tennis career is all said and done the majority of people will remember him as a clay court specialist.
     
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  15. VamosRafa

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    Your crystal ball must be clearer than mine, as Rafa's hardcourt and grass results seem to suggest otherwise.

    But perhaps you are a bit myopic, too. :D
     
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  16. Volly master

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    i think Quest is trying to say that since Nadal broke Vilas record of clay matches one, that will be the thing he is mainly remembered for, AT THIS POINT in his career. sure he has had good runs at other big events on different surfaces yes, but his dominace on clay is what is making him a legend right now.
     
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  17. VamosRafa

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    That's a good point, but it's hard to think of someone who just turned 20 as being remembered for one thing, when we still have no clue how much more he will accomplish. But his legendary status on clay is something we likely can take to the bank at this point. Quest certainly suggested (and in fact predicted) that is all he will ever take to the bank. But all indications are to the contrary.
     
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  18. SER

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    I changed my mind I think the next great player will be Monfils
     
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  19. bluescreen

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    i think gasquet is gonna fall short. bags, imo, has the best chance of being the next definate top player. next federer is a long shot since i dont think anyone on tour at the moment has his brilliance. but i think baghdatis has a shot. nadal's gonna do his own thing and be his own person so i'm not considering him.
     
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  20. The Pusher Terminator

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    Are you kidding? If Nadal wins the US Open then I think Nadal will be in the number 1 spot.
     
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  21. bluescreen

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    i dont think nadal would get #1 just by winning US Open. fed has a big lead on everyone points wise. he'd have to lose early in almost every tournament to lose his spot that quickly. but i dont see him being dethroned at the US Open this year anyway. maybe AO, but that still wouldnt give his spot to nadal. i say fed's got #1 to the end of next year easy. but lets get back to the original topic.
     
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  22. uxnaitoahz

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    Hmmm Baghdatis might do it. What do you guys think of my idea of the FedCrusher:

    Serve - Roddick
    Forehand - Agassi
    Backhand - Nalbandian
    Volley - Dent
     
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  23. ACE of Hearts

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    Sorry man but Roddick's serve?It could easily be the worse right now.Everyone has picked it off.All u have to do is send it back and Roddick goes awol:rolleyes:
     
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  24. VamosRafa

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    I think the point is that if you had Roddick's serve, and could back it up with Agassi's forehand, Nalbandian's backhand, and Dent's volleys, you may have a shot of beating Fed. And maybe you would, if you are talking about Fed facing a right-handed player. If not:

    One change, for sure:

    Forehand - Nadal

    Even Agassi said that Rafa has the one shot they all wish they had against Fed -- the left-handed forehand to Fed's backhand.

    Second change:

    Think you are right with the rest, although it's been so long since I've seen Taylor volley, I'm not sure. He's never been a Top contender, so it's hard to rate his volley against Henman's, for example.


    Still, if you are looking for a FedCrusher, you can't ignore the Nadal formula, as it has had a bit of success.
     
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  25. uxnaitoahz

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    Henman was my next choice; it was a close call. I also wanted to put Safin in for the backhand side, but chose Nalby over him. Other than Nadal who else has the right forehand?
     
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  26. edberg505

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    I think Taylor's volleys are the best out there. Maybe it used to be Henman about 2 or 3 years ago. Taylor's only problem has been his fitness. But I would venture to say that before he got injured he had the best serve and volley game on the tour. I'd change the backhand to Safin though. Safin's backhand is unreal.
     
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  27. uxnaitoahz

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    I think if Safin can play at the level he is capable of every match, he can definitely give Federer trouble.
     
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  28. FEDEXP

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    It's just impossible, at this time, to forsee the next Federer (and no, VamosRafa, as good as Nadal is, he is not the next Federer- that's an oxymoron).
     
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    Nadal is not the next Federer, Nadal is the next Nadal
     
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    At the moment, I don't see anyone capable of getting the #1 spot besides -although unlikely- Nadal. If Federer has a weaker season, maybe Nadal could, but that needs to happen. Rogelio is playing at an insane level all the time.

    For the rest of the field, by now I don't see another potential number 1. Just look at the points, and there are two big gaps:

    Federer ---->big gap----> Nadal --->big gap ----> the others.

    Ditto.
     
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  31. uxnaitoahz

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    I'd love to see Nadal with Federer's racquet... :mrgreen:
     
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  32. VamosRafa

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    I agree, and I'd like to take credit for talking about Nadal as the first Nadal and such, but Brad Gilbert turned me on to this idea, almost a year ago. Here's the exchange:

    These guys are writing their own piece of history. And IMO, it would do Rafa an injustice to call him the "next Federer." Because that's not his goal, he's going for being the "first Nadal."

    http://www.vamosrafael.com/articles/art469.html
     
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  33. TennisProPaul

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    i think paul goldstein will pass nalbandian, then nadal, and then federer, in a go cart race, since he weighs less
     
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  34. sliceroni

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    The proper time to ask this question is 4-5 (or more) yrs from now after Fed stops dominating the tour.
     
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  35. psamp14

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    maybe too early to predict, but what about that 13 year old prodigy, Bernard Tomic from Australia?
     
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    The best for him would be getting as less attention as possible, and to avoid the hype as possible.
     
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  37. TennisProPaul

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    FACT IS AS SCAREY AS IT SOUNDS, Rafa is improving more then Federer. Federer cant get any better, and Rafa will get sooo much better. Now his serve is 120+ average and can beat Federer almost at will unless its grass, Nadal will pass Federer in 1-2 years for sure.

    100% positive
     
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  38. FREDDY

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    serious, gasquet since the first time i saw him play i thought he already was a top player even though top 100 is top as he is 60 right now i think hes got it or shall i say gonna get it.
     
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  39. FREDDY

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    Federer can only get better, if of course you don't consider becoming wiser on the court(if that is possible).
     
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  40. uxnaitoahz

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    Nadal may dominate clay but he is not nearly as good as FedExpress on the other surfaces, especially grass. In my opinion, unless Nadal can be as good at net as slugging loopy topspin forehands from the baseline, Nadal will never surpass Federer.
     
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  41. dewey2110

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    hmm, you cant never tell anything surely about Nadal...He's full of surprise...Yes, he's improving fast and will be no.1 soon...but he won't be the next Federer. Why? not to start sth here, and I'm not a fan of any of them, but Nadal's character is way different from Federer...Federer sure is a great player but he's losing my respect with his attitude...Of course, we all get frustrated when we lose to sbd continously, and he's human after all, so I also think its reasonable...
     
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  42. dewey2110

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    that's just your way of putting it...Nadal is beating Fed on hard courts this year...I guess ppl can also say : Fed may dominate grass but he is not as good as Nadal on other surfaces, especially clay :neutral:
    Nadal is improving at net, see his statistics on net points??? Also, Fed is getting more afraid of coming to net because of Nadal...
     
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  43. psamp14

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    honestly i dont see monfils, berdych, baghdatis, or djokavic becoming the next federer...the next federer will be someone who plays sort of similar to federer, or some teenager right now who is winning almost every tournament he plays...gasquet is closest right now on tour, and bernard tomic is closest of the future...whats everyone's thoughts on bernard tomic? could he possibly be the real deal or will be become a donald young in 3-4 yrs,....
     
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  44. helloworld

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    I think Bernard Tomic could be a thread to Nadal like the way Nadal is to Fed at the moment, but it's gonna take him mayby 4-5 more years to get to the top of professional tennis.However, we can never be sure about anything, if he gets too much hype, he might lose it and become the next Donald Young... who knows ?
     
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  45. typingchamp

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    No one.

    But Nadal will maybe be the next number one. Probably at Australian Open.

    I don't really see much in this new group of youngsters. I'll wait to see more of them. Baghdatis is the best of the bunch (other than Nadal of course).

    Nadal should win most improved player . . . and considering his year last year, that's saying a lot. Imagine him in a year or two!
     
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  46. VamosRafa

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    Rafa did win the ATP Most Improved Player for last year. Roger won the ATP Player of the Year, and he'll do it again this year, unless something drastic happens with an injury or something.

    That is unlikely to happen, but you raise an interesting question, will the ATP again name Rafa as the most improved player, given that he is again the undisputed No. 2, at age 19/20, and has shown improvements on on-clay surfaces.

    But can the ATP give him that title again, or do they need to give it some other player who has shown lots of improvement, but is nowhere near the Federer/Nadal calibre?
     
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    Well Rafa went from #3 (this time last year) to #2, I think maybe Andy Murray should have it, he was outside the top 200 this time last year and now he's 36 and rising.
     
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    That last Wimbledon means nothing....
    By getting to the final, Nadal proved how ridiculously slow that grass was... You try looking @ old clips of Wimbledon on www.youtube.com and this years final and TELL ME that's the same surface...

    Ive yet to ring the LTA and give them a piece of my mind, which i shall outline in another thread...
     
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  50. Shabazza

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    Which attitude are you talking about :confused:
     
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