Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by joeri888, Nov 5, 2012.
I'm looking forward to the Delpo-Raonic semifinal!
But in all seriousness, Federer's draw isn't as awful as some make it out. If he's playing well enough to win a slam, he'll win whether he faces Davydenko in the second round or not. If he's playing well enough to beat Murray and Djokovic back-to-back, it doesn't matter who he faces beforehand.
Plus, there's a very large possibility that the draw doesn't pan out the way it looks like it will on paper.
I agree, he's still very likely to make the SF. The only question mark is how quickly his playing level will be up to par, given he hasn't played any warmup tournaments.
By the way, does anyone know why Nalbandian isn't playing?
For some reason, I get the feeling that this tournament might have a few more suprprises than the recent men's GSs. Not saying a usual suspect won't eventually win it. But I will predict that only one of the top 3 seeds makes it to the semis.
That would be refreshing! Personally, I'd love to see a Del Potro-Tsonga semifinal. They're my two favorite players after Federer, but he's won plenty of stuff anyway.
Yeah, I'm not hoping for a total change of the guard, Dimitrov/Raonic final--Stephanek/Hewitt would be preferable honestly--but a Ferrer/Delpo/Tsonga/Djokovic (or whoever) semi would at least gives us a little something different.
If I'm not mistaken, he's missing AO to fully concentrate on DC, more specifically to prepare for the first tie Argentina plays against Germany.
Good luck to Jamie Baker against The Donald
And they have no business whining about draws either. Look at those stats:
Fed: # of finals without having to play a top 4: 57
- not playing a top 30: 5
- a top 20: 8
- a top 10: 11
- a top 8: 6
- a top 5: 20 (lol)
- a top 4: 7
Djoko: # of finals without having to play a top 4: 19
- a top 30: 5
- a top 20: 3
- a top 10: 4
- a top 8: 2
- a top 5: 4
- a top 4: 1
# of slam finals without having to play a top 4:
# of master finals without having to play a top 4:
# of finals without playing a top 4 per year:
Fed: 2000: 2 out of 2
2001: 3 out of 3
2002: 4 out of 5
2003: 7 out of 9
2004: 5 out of 11
2005: 9 out of 12
2006: 8 out of 16
2007: 5 out of 12
2008: 2 out of 8
2009: 2 out of 7
2010: 3 out of 9
2011: 3 out of 6
2012: 4 out of 10
2006: 3 out of 3
2007: 3 out of 7
2008: 3 out of 7
2009: 4 out of 10
2010: 2 out of 4
2011: 2 out of 11
2012: 2 out of 11
How can they complain about draws after reading those stats
Look how much tougher the competition was in 2011/2012 compared to Fed's prime years (until 2006) when he reached the majority of his finals without having to play a top 4 or a top 5 along the way (opponent in final included).
Gael Monfils vs Alexandr Dolgopolov. I hope this happens. It'll be entertaining at the very least.
This is Novak's GS to loose. The only question is who will he face? It should be Murray or Fed.
I really think Dimitrov can make a deep run here. Perhaps even make it to Djokovic. What do you think, guys?
^ I doubt it
D'you even know what a draw means? A draw is NOT, I repeat, NOT who you face in the finals but who you're slated to face before then. Facing a certain player in FINALS is all about how the other half plays out ( and btw, many of those so-called non-top 4 guys [ since when did THAT become a standard?] beat the top 4 guys, including your favourite to reach those finals]. It has NOTHING to do with the draw per se.
I am looking forward to Murray-Delpotro. I think it will be a cracker of a match assuming both guys show up close to their best forms.
Fed could lose to Tsonga here, seeing how he lost to Berdych at the USO. I don't think anyone in Djoker's draw can stop him from getting to the finals.
Schedule for monday is out. Djokovic during day and Hewitt at nighy on rod laver. Anyone knows which of the outside courts have camera's?
i can't wait for the first round to start so people can discuss tennis rather than nerding-out, and fighting one another, on draw statistics.
Would Murray get the N. 1 ranking if he was to win the AO?
If he won and Djokovic lost first round, Murray would still be 1640 points behind I think.
If Murray wins this tournament he will be truly the GOAT. OK maybe not.
Murray can't even overtake Federer even if he wins AO if Fed loses in the 1st round LOL keep dreaming.
tipsarevic-hewitt monday night down under...very interesting, the way hewitt's playing and talking...massive pressure on tipsy here
Djokovic def Verdasco
Dimitrov def Ferrer
Del Potro def Murray
Federer def Gasquet
Djokovic def Dimitrov
Federer def Del Potro
Federer def Djokovic
Goffin vs Verdasco, maybe a diamond in the rough for the first day session? I can only stay up until around 2 am here EST, so I won't see the night.
I see your point but to me the top 4 or 5 players are the hardest to beat, so a player definitely gets a break when he has none of them to overcome for a win (that's why some players win 250 events but cannot win a slam or a master, they just can't bring the goods vs the top guys. )
Wow and some people complained about Monte Carlo :-?
My favorite Grand Slam finally starting. Looking for Djokovic and Serena to take the titles. Both looking unstoppable at the moment.
Definitely a big match Marc but I would favour tipsy. I think Hewitt has been given far more respect and opportunity in kooyong from the likes of berdych del po etc than he will be given this week. Basically I am saying he is not playing as well as he thinks he is! Tipsy in four!
That is so going 5.
What opening match (ie first out on court) would be worth watching?
I am on east coast usa usa usa time so this can be a tough tourney to watch but Tsongar Llodra matchup intrigues me.
Yeah man would LOVE to see llodra pushing this close! Don't think so though he has a terrible record against jo
Hmm. I actually can't fight a match that appeals to me tomorrow. Would watch Grigor vs Julien B but there aren't any links on LSH for it. Think I'll watch Goffin vs Verdasco and call it a night. Maybe a bit of Youznhy vs Ebden as well. Long nights ahead so can't burn out too quickly
Tipsy vs Hewit will be fun. So will Monfils vs Dolgo.
I'm hoping Raonic has a nice, deep run, but his form isn't looking too good early in the season, so I'm doubtful.
Which outside courts have cameras?
Did it ever even occur to you that it could occur because a non-top 4 or top 5 player is playing significantly better than the top 4 or top 5 player he beat and could actually be *gasp* harder to beat in that tournament ..... see gonzalez who ripped through nadal, haas in AO 2007 .... or tsonga who ran through the draw in AO 2008, pummeling nadal along the way .....phillippoussis who served & volleyed his way into the final in wimbledon 2003 etc etc ?
If it was only because the top player was playing badly and the non-top 5 player was not on-fire but just played ok tennis, that would be catching a break .....
Do you think when sampras was facing krajicek in wimbledon 96, he was thinking, oh, he's only the #17 seed ? :lol:
or when nadal was having FHs after FHs flying by him in AO 2007, he was thinking, oh, he's only the #10 seed ? :lol:
or when nadal was having no answers to tsonga's game in AO 2008, he was thinking, oh, he's only the #38 ranked ? :lol:
It is why they all 128 players *actually* play in a slam, not just the top 4 or top 5 ....
This is getting close now, can't wait for it. It's my favourite slam but also the one I see the least of due to the time difference here in Ireland. It basically starts at midnight and runs to midday!! Anyway, for anyone who is interested, I did a blog preview of the mens draw from a slight betting angle if you fancy giving it a read. www.tennisbacker.blogspot.com
Tomic, on his potential meeting with Federer in the third round, started thusly: "If he gets that far..."
"I had goosebumps after. I feel like I'm unstoppable right now."
"When you know that no one can beat you, not even the No. 1, you got a good feeling."
Federer on Tomic (earlier today): "He will be making a mistake about thinking about me in the third round because he also has to get there."
Taken from Twitter. Oooh...
BOLD prediction here: Federer will lose in the 2nd round to Davydenko, thus marking the first time since the 2004 French Open that he has not advanced to the quarterfinals at a Slam.
Congrats to Bogomolov on getting thru qualies. Tough first raound vs. brian baker.
It's about to get underway. 4 more hours.
Last year Tomic was actually quoted as having Fed as his idol. I'm sure he greatly respects Roger.
Probably copying Roger's self confidence.
Hey guys this is me from 2050, I just got a time machine and wanted to spoil the results for tmr.
Sharapova wins 6-2 6-0
Mathieu def. Djokovic 6-3 6-4 5-7 1-6 9-7
If this happens, I think i will actually believe you have a time machine
Wow very interesting! I think tomic would have a legitimate shot but yeah I think davydenko has an even better shot!
Not a chance. Davy has a couple courts he loves, but just because he won Doha does not make him close to beating Federer.
He didn't win Doha but was a finalist.
Davy had a better shot at Fed 3 years ago after coming off the winning streak where he pretty much ran through the top 8 players at WTF then beat Federer and Nadal back to back at Doha. Yet still he came up short and he hasn't been that consistent ever since.
When can Fabio Fognini and Roger Federer meet?
Less than an hour espn3 baby
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