*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. Harry_Randle

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    Haha, I put them on and they feel ok, get big results when on form. I just think it will be something that needs getting used to.
    Would you guys agree that it takes time to get used to things like this, in terms of extra weight?

    Thanks,
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  2. Harry_Randle

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    Has anyone tried Gosen OG Micro Sheep 17g, in their Pro Tour?
     
  3. MarrratSafin

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    Me couple years ago but was the 18g, it was awesome for the few hours it lasted. Liked it better than full poly in the tighter pattern.
     
  4. Ross K

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    Ah so what is the accepted wisdom re the PT630 and full poly jobs strung low?
     
  5. Harry_Randle

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    Well I tried it, as thats what everyone said was a must do and to be honest I enjoyed it for a couple of months but I installed full cap grommets and it felt like a woodboard. I'm looking to go to a synthetic string now for extra pop.
     
  6. Harry_Randle

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    Seeing as this is the pro tour thread, and I know you have suggest strings to me before but what is your verdict on best string for this trusty frame. I have been using weisscannon silver string in mains and pacific powerline in the crosses and stopped due to a lack of feel after switiching to weiss cannon silverstring all one piece. I am currently using black code and its ok and I like the pop it offers. So my question is would the gosen og micro sheep be a good one to go to, its cost effective and it says its durable. What synthetic string would you recommend for this frame and for me?
     
  7. MarrratSafin

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    Everyone has different preferences, you have many players who won't even touch poly regardless of the racquet... but I prefer a hybrid or gut in a tight pattern, and I still use full poly in open patterns.:)
     
  8. MarrratSafin

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    I recommend full gut for the ultimate pop and feel...:-D

    But hey, why don't you continue to use a mono/multi hybrid? It has better spin potential without sacrificing much feel. If you are really going to go full synthetic the Gosen OG is the way to go... although it's not durable by any means compared to even the thinnest poly. But really a thin poly will be just great. And I don't like Black Code.:lol:
     
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    How does the gosen og micro sheep compare to prince synthetic gut? Don't like poly all over anymore, haha! Would like to give the hybrid I was using and maybe try the weisscannon silverstring with the pacific and then try the gosen as a cross as well.
     
  10. psycho0

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    My current specs with PT630: 338g, 32.2cm balance, SW=331, MgI/R=20.7

    I am finding this racquet quite sluggish to swing at times causing me to be late for balls.

    I am wondering if anyone has tried Traveljrm's tips by adding lead at 7" from buttcap to increase MgI/R up to 21? If so, did it make the racquet easier to swing?

    Thanks for your help
     
  11. TaihtDuhShaat

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    Do it!


    By all means experiment with lead at 7". Try 2 grams wrapped over your grip and dry swing it, dry serve it, etc. and see if it becomes easier to swing. If it becomes easier, add another 1-2 grams at a time until you reach the point where it becomes harder to swing again. Then take a 1/2 gram off at a time to fine tune it. It really made a difference on my 346g TiRadical.
     
  12. floydcouncil

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    Forget all these stupid numbers and practice, practice and practice. You shouldn't focus on what your mrig/r number is. Take lessons from a pro who can correct what you're doing wrong.
     
  13. Harry_Randle

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    My pro tour weighs in at about 360grams and I thought jesus this is a club. Put a babolat skin feel replacement grip on it and bobs your uncle, also lifted heavier weights at the gym and went about doing some court excercises. The court feels smaller and the racquet lighter!

    Try this thanks,
    Harry.
     
  14. chrischris

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    I join in by my use of PT57a rackets .. love them. !
    i went thru some TGKs and they are nice too , especially the 238.1.. i am looking to move a few of those.-
     
  15. APG

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    I recently purchased a 630 designed in Austria racket. It comes with full caps which I assume was not stock at the time. I was concerned about the sw and heady heavy specs. I have a ti rad head guard I was considering installing to make the 630 more hl. I welcome any feedback about the racket's playability with and without full caps.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  16. vsbabolat

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    Yes, the later production of the Pro Tour 630 was stock with CAP grommets. The first year it was not. The Pro Tour 280 on the other hand did not come with CAP grommets.
     
  17. APG

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    Any input as to playability with and without the full caps?
    Appreciate it. I string with full gut so wanted to decide which set up will work best for me.
     
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    How can you tell if a PT280 is Made in China or in Czech? I'm about to pick one up that reads Designed in Austria
     
  20. vsbabolat

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    If it has HEAD Barcode label Inside written on the side of the frame it is Made in Austria finished in Czech Republic.

    Also if it has a butt-cap with silver logo stamped on it with the grip size right next to it. Like this:
     
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  21. Harry_Randle

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    VS, are these your frames? If so they look really cool, nice gloss to them! :)

    I was wondering if you could answer a question for me? I have four pro tours but they are all different lengths only by a couple of mm but its kind of annoying. When I replaced all the grips and butt caps, the hairpin of the grip was longer and shorter on every racquet, is this just how they are made or have previous owners filed them down? I suppose the only way to make them the same is to replace the pallets and cut them to the same lengths?
    Also in the pictures on that link I put up, why is the pro tour 630 printed differently on each?

    Thanks, hope you can answer these questions for me, I need a pro tour pro to answer there :)
    Harry.
     
  22. vsbabolat

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    not my frames. They are pham4313's.
    I can't answer on the length.

    The Pro Tour 630 looks the same to me.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/52311883@N06/5522450485/in/photostream/

    It was stamp with the paint on it that was done by hand.
     
  23. Harry_Randle

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    Ok thanks VS, you are the ultimate knowledge box haha. Yeah when I line them up they are like a couple of mm out, should this make a difference at all? I'm a real perfectionist you see :)
    Also these are the pro tours that never came with capped grommets, is this ok? or will it like make the racquet play in a way its not meant to? They feel great though!

    Thanks :)
     
  24. GoodSamaritan

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    VS, how does the PC600 and PT280 compare? I know theyre pretty different but I'm interested in a nice comparison if anyone has one
     
  25. Harry_Randle

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    Hi pro tour users. I have a question regarding the manufacturing of the pro tours. Were there variations in the handle lengths across the productions of the first generation trek font pro tours? its just I have noticed on all of my four, that the hairpin are at different lengths.

    Hope someone can help me out :)

    Harry.
     
  26. vsbabolat

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    The PT280 has more pop, has a bigger sweet spot, more forgiving on off center hits. But there is a special feel with the PC600 that I find it hard to get away from.
     
  27. Harry_Randle

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    VS...

    I have a friend who produced racquets under the name of Rats Racquets, Real Aggressive Tennis is what it stands for. They copied a Fisher racquet years ago and the feel was identical, proof that they can clone racquets. This may make for interesting reading but I am going to try and get him to copy the pro tour, but I need your help with like specs and info about the manufacturing requirements. obviously we will then have pro tours at out fingers.

    let me know what you think.
     
  28. JT_2eighty

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    It's negligible. A few of mine have CAP, a few don't. With the same string, they play very similar. The CAP adjusts the balance a bit, so it is a little more head heavy, but I find that head tape can have the same effect of CAP. So, a little more power the more head heavy you get.

    One good way to adjust your balance to more Head Light is to use a Leather grip with overgrip; for me this counters the CAP weight sufficiently. It makes for about a 12.8 ounce stick, but worth it if you have the timing.
     
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  29. GoodSamaritan

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    Just hit with a PT280 (China) for the first time and it felt great. I threw on a Head FC grip and 2 grams of lead on the buttcap. It still had those stock yellow strings just like the picture VS posted above but didn't play too bad after all. I only hit groundstrokes but the stick definitely felt baseline-oriented. I was intending to sell the racquet because I wanted to stick with my PC600 but I might just keep it or even switch to it. I'm an all-courter so I think I'd prefer the Prestige but the lead on the buttcap gives it a bit more maneuverability for better all-court play. Also strung it up with Big Hitter Blue Rough just now. I'll try and hit with this stick more after the rain passes.
     
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  30. Arvid

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    Some months ago a came across a brand new PT 630 that i bought on the bay, i thought it was made in austria, but from reading here i can gather that its probably made in austrian finished in chech republik. It has caps and a barcode on the throat. So my question is what exactly is the differense versus austrian made or chinese exept for the grommets? This racket plays truly amazing!! I have some head TT radicals that i normally play with and at first i thought they played almost the same....sorry about that guys the feel is completely different even if they have similaritys. Its like the PT just grabbes the ball and spits it out, a magical feel. Anyways so if i were to find more i would be interested to know what the differense is?
     
  31. JT_2eighty

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    Of my PTs, I have 1 that is like you describe. It is much lighter than the Austrian 280s and Austrian 'trek' 630s I own. The 630 "designed" in austria (finished in czech rep) is my favorite of the 3. It has more flex than the others, and the lighter weight make it more spin friendly than the other models I have.

    This is only my experience, I'm sure vsbabolat could enlighten us further as to the how and why of this, but I have weighed and balanced all of mine, and this one is light in comparison. It feels flexier, but this could be due to the weight, or something else?
     
  32. APG

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    I also recently acquired a 630 designed in Austria racket. I have a 280 made in Austria without caps and it is considerably heavier. I enjoy hitting with it and appears fairly flexible. I have toyed with purchasing other arm friendly frames because of golfers elbow but not sure anything else will necessarily be easier on the elbow. The 630 seems to
    Be easier to swing if not on the arm, then my prestiges mp. Perhaps it is my imagination since specs would suggest otherwise.
     
  33. JT_2eighty

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    I don't think it's your imagination. I had a similar experience with mine.

    My PT280s (made in Aus) weighed 12.5 and 12.6 oz, strung, gripped, no-CAP, etc. (32.5 cm bal strung)
    My PT630 (designed Aus) weighed 12.08 oz, same string & grip, WITH CAP etc. (33.5 cm bal strung)
    PT630 (made in Aus-trek font) wt 12.4 oz, no CAP, strung, etc. (strung balance 31.7cm)

    Balance point was more head heavy on the 630 (designed aus), but it still played super arm friendly (I also then added .4 oz gram lead to handle, to get to same 32.5 bal as 280s, and it helped with mobility). Even without lead, the 12.08 oz, 33.5cm (2.5 pts HL), setup on the 630-designed in Aus model is a great one. More room to mod than the other iterations, and a different flexy feel that is just butter.

    I've demoed loads of newer stuff out there from Head, Volkl, Wilson, Prince... nothing matches the arm saving qualities as the PT630 czech model. Problem is it is my only one, so I am currently saving it for when my arm needs it the most. :D
     
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  34. APG

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    I am cOncerned as well, since this is my only 630. The 280
    Is ofcourse similar but plays different with the added weight and different balance. I need something arm friendly at the moment. It is reassuring that you have demoed other rackets and cannot necessarily improve on the arm friendly nature of 630. I added a Gosen grip system to the handle adding 1.5 ozs and more headlight. The grip systems are no longer available.(sorbathane rap to reduce shock)
    Thanks for your input. Thought of demoing prince Tour and Volk, pK blackace etc but will stay with 630.
     
  35. JT_2eighty

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    From what I hear, PK may come close, and that's one brand I wasn't able to demo. The 280 is also quite arm friendly, just a little heavier overall and can be a bear over the course of a long match compared to the 630-'designed'. Some of the new Volkl Organix or BBecker models also sound good based on reviews, other sticks I haven't tried.
     
  36. kybb

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    Its the first time for me to string PT630 and after that will be my first hit with that frame.

    I have Weiss Cannon Silverstring 1.20 and 1.25 that I want to use.

    I usually strung 1.20 to LM Radigal 25/24 (55/23) and 1.25 24/23 (53/50.5).

    On Dunlop 200 Light I have Focus-Hex mains and Silverstring 1.25 crosses 24/23.

    Yes I can experiment, but would be better to start from closest point to the "truth".

    Need setup with what I can hit also flat shots.

    1. Should i use the same tension or should i go lower?
    2. Should i use the same tension in mains and crosses or keep the tifference 1kg between mains and crosses?

    I have played tennis almost for 2 years now, so if i say something that sounds stoped, then dont laugh at me:)))
     
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    Ok i got no suggestions.

    So i tried 1.20 mains 24 (53) and 1.25 crosses 23 (50,5). Quite good control and power combination. Racket feels very-VERY soft: i know you all know that, but to me this was plesant suprise that it is SO soft because my Dunlop have stiffness rating 57 by TW mesurments and feels much stiffer.

    I will try on another racket seame strings with 22/21 tension.

    Feels like Dunlop 200 light is no longer needed.
     
  38. geese_com

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    Would anyone mind giving a run down of the different versions of the PT630? I just purchased a PT630, but I can't seem to find where the different versions are referenced. Thanks.
     
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    I guess I should upload some pics so that everyone knows what I'm talking about:

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    Here are the pics of my Pro Tours (too bad one of them is going to be sold soon):

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    Wow, I feel like an idiot. Mine says "Made in Austria" so I'm going to use my super deductive powers and say that this is an Austrian PT630.

    Anyways, a run down of the different versions would still be appreciated. Thanks everyone.
     
  41. Manaldo

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    Could anyone tell me about the specs of PT630?
    Thanks a lot
     
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    Head Size: 97 sq. in. / 626 sq. cm. Length : 27 inches / 69 cm. Construction :20 mm Constant Beam. Composition :High Twaron and Graphite. Strung Weight :12 ounces / 340 grams. Power Level: Low. Stiffness: 58 (0-100). Power: B, 40 (0-100). Control: B, 60 (0-100). Manueverability: A, 73 (0-100). Stroke Style: Long, Full Swing speed: Fast. Balance: 8pts Head Light. Grip type: Cushion Grip. String Tension:50-60 pounds. String Pattern:18 Mains / 20 Crosses.

    I think I got it...
     
  43. dr325i

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    No matter what, I keep coming back to this great racket.
    I have just obtained 2x of the PT57A with a Microgel Radical MP PJ.
    338g strung, 8pt HL, I'd say about 56 flex, again in love with them...

    Currently using them as a backup for the best and most surprising stick I have found: Major Bullit Pro Lite 16x19 with silicone and lead is amazing!
     
  44. craniopath

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    stripped down pt630

    guys this is how my new (!) pt630 looks like after I brutally removed the buttcap and pallet :)

    what is this red thing?


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    anyone would be interested in donating a size 5 pallet to this cause :oops:
     
  45. tperrott

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    Are these genuine Pro Tour 280s?

    I just purchased/received these from a very popular online auction site. Please take a look at my pictures and let me know if these are real. I am new to this and the website where I posted the pics, so thanks for your patience. I do know that the guy put on custom pallets, which is why the butt cap is plain black, but my concern is the frame itself.

    http://profile.imageshack.us/user/tperrott/
     
  46. vsbabolat

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    The frames you have look to be the last SMU of the Pro Tour 280 and those were made China. They are form around 2000, 2001.
     
  47. vsbabolat

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    The red stuff is the IDS isosrb material. You should have heated up the pallets with a hair dryer and then very gently taken them off the hair-pin. It would have been much easier and you could have saved the pallets.
     
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  48. tperrott

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    Thank you very much for the info. I don't know what SMU stands for though? Thanks.
     
  49. vsbabolat

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    Special Make-Up. It was long discontinued and brought back for a few accounts.
     
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    thank you for the info. one of the pallets was damaged so there was no reason to save them.
     

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