Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Pro_Tour_630, Nov 21, 2007.
Is the PT630 closer to a Radical or Prestige?
Nowhere near Radical. You could say it is close to Prestige(almost identical mold). But still very unique feel. People believe it is because of Twaron used in PT630
The Original Radical Tour (Trisys 260) MP, Radical Tour TwinTube 630, and Pro Tour 630/280 all use the exact same mold. Starting with the Ti.Radical MP The Radical from there forward use a different molds. Today's Prestige MP is closer to the Pro Tour 630/280 in mold.
There is another way to make it smaller. The 'pallets' can be replaced. That is the thing that you shaved down, it can actually be removed and if you are able to find replacement pallets in your grip size (2, 3 etc), then the new size fits right in.
There's a thread somewhere here showing how to do it yourself. Tricky part is finding the "TK 76" pallet in your size. I do believe the newer "TK 82" also fit the racquet as well. The only difference is what they are made out of, so probably weights will vary, etc. Once you find that all you need is a hairdryer and some patience.
There is even a Yuotube video howto. Anyway I prefer sinking the handle in very hot water rather than the hairdryer. Works better and faster for me. Good luck!!
PT caps/grommets 101
Really enjoy this thread. i've got a trek PT630 austria full guard and a chinese 280 partial guard.
I need help with the caps/grommet thing on the PTs. i think i'd like to get a full guard for my 280.... can't seem to find all the info together for the novice.
first off does "CAP'd" or "full CAPs" refer to a guard around the whole head?
so what guards are available to buy, and where can you buy them? i can't seem to find this "iprestige mp xl" guard anywhere... and is that one the most similar to the OEM full guard, which is now unavailable? what are the other options, and what are their weights?
i'm leaning to get the full guard, as i like how my 630 plays... but i might experiment a bit longer playing with them the way they are a while....
post reply if appropriate or email james dot ys dot yang @ gmail
PS I'd also like to find out what you experienced PT players like for a setup after your experimentation regarding the bumper guards, strings, and grips. I'm looking for the fast track to a good setup. As far as playing style I am a baseliner with lots of topspin...
Still has my HEAD RADICAL TWIN TUBE MP ....good racquet,,,but not sure about good string for it?
TW sells them. it's listed as Head Intelligence i.Prestige XL Mid+ Grommet
Hey mate, CAPS=full guard yes. CAPS stands for computer assisted protection system iirc. The LM Prestige MP grommets from TW is CAPS and will fit the PT280/630 perfect. For normal/partial guard, get the LM Radical MP grommets from TW. I recommend LM over Youtek because the material of the older ones are of better quality. CAPS are around 30g, partial 10g less iirc. Definitely put on a leather grip, and the frame seems to work best with a thin poly setup.
i've got the following grommet sets and here are their weights.
Head MicroGel Radical MP grommet set - 22g
Head YouTek Radical MP grommet set - 24g
Head i.Prestige XL MP grommet set - 29g
Head MicroGel Prestige MP grommet set (CAP) - 34g
I'm a natural gut fan......
Hi from Belgium
Here someone from belgium who plays with the PT630 since 15 years
I didnt know there where other people than me that like the head PT630 so much
I have 2 rackets pt630 "designed in austria" and 1 "made in austria".
Already played with other midplus rackets from head (prestige, radical,...)
but it never felt as good as my old pt630:twisted:
Since years i play with monofilament kirschbaum super smash 1.20 or 1.25, 55-56lbs. Also played with other strings, but this one gives the right feeling.
I've the Pyramid Tour 630 (Made in Austria), this is a beast, very stable, spin machine but not easily manoeuvrable if you get pushed around...
Did you try Kirschbaum Spiky Shark (spin friendly) as well at low tension? I'm curious to know how it compares with Super Smash with this racket...
I should add this is a really low powered racket so you become tired quite quickly. That said this is really a racket like none other with a special feel...
Btw, I'm also located in Belgium ;-)
Do you think the Pro tour trisys 280 would be a good racquet to extend to 28"? (they have pallets, right?)
do i count as a partial member?
i have a pair of youtek pj PT57A's.
Just bought a Pro Tour 280 Designed in Austria. Condition: 8.5/10. Spent $60.
Used it on court last week. Very good feel. But I really don't want to scratch it any more.
Which would you say is the more abundant frame out of the PT630 "trek font" or "shadow font"
I need info...
What plays (feels) similar to head PT 630 trek font,
Head prestige liquidmetal mp or Head prestige Microgel mp
none of them....i am sorry
I thought so:-?, that none of them would match up....I have two of PT 630 but they are pretty old now..
So the best way to get PT 630 (that is somewhat younger than 15y old frame) is to buy PT57A?
I think best way is to buy PT630 again...if you like it's retail specs. It is still not a big problem to get them in reasonable condition and much cheaper than PT57A. I have bought around 10 PT630´s last year. Couple of them like new. Check stringforum. Hope this help.
Also...the paintjob is so cool
What is the best way to hit the forehand with the PT630/280, hit it flat or topspin? eastern or semi-western? Your opinion will be appreciated.
the best way would be to hit it exactly like you normally hit a fh
How do you NORMALLY hit your forehand? Why? Does it give you BETTER result?
rather old-fashioned with an eastern grip learned it in the 70´s
am able to get a lot of topspin out of it though if the situation asks for it
i was a bit confused by your former post and probably didn´t understand it correctly. where you suggesting, that one should alter forehand technique depending on the racket one uses?
Amen to that my friend!
No, I just would want to know your best way of hitting with your PT630. So, its eastern grip for you! What's your string set up? Nice to hear you get a lot of spin from it.
Hit mine with a SW - works just fine. That said, I generally prefer the additional stiffness of the the Radical Trisys.
Spin generation off the ground is fine, even with 18x20 string pattern, but you notice it more on serve when comparing against a 16x18 frame.
Control is excellent though - more than makes up for any losses elsewhere.
And how are you finding your new purchase? (aka phillips39)
Great thanks - a tiny bit of tweaking and I now have a matching pair!
So if TGK237 is Prestige Mid, 237.1 is 18x20, 237.2 is 16x19, what is 237.3? Stiffer or flexier version? Which string pattern?
From what I know. is as follow:
TGK 237.1 = Microgel Prestige Mid Pro stock 18 x 20
TGK 237.2 = Microgel Prestige Mid Pro stock 16 x 19 ( hard to find )
TGK 237.3 = Youtek Prestige Mid Pro stock 18 x 20
TGK 237.4 = Youtek Prestige Mid Pro stock 16 x 19 ( hard to find )
The new ones Youtek IG Prestige Mid Pro Stock, change the code, I think they are TGT 291.1 18 x 20 and 291.2 for 16 x 19
Thanks, cmendez79! Guess I need to be on the lookout for a 291.2.
I had a mistake
The Youtek IG Prestige Mid Pro Stock TGT 292.1 is the 18 X 20, in another forum some guy just sold 2 of them.
The 16 x 19 should be the TGT 292.2 but I have not seen one and I do not know if it exist.
But all the 16 x 19 are extremely hard to find, because not a lot of pro players use them.
Good luck !!
Well, I'm not actively searching for one, let alone be able to afford it if I found it. I'd be just as happy if Head made an IG Prestige Mid 16x19 as a non-Pro Stock option...but not many non-pros seek out something like that, either.
No problem. Glad you like it!
I need some help....
Yesterday I bought two PT630. I already have two PT's with full CAP that I play with, but I found these and couldn't reject offer for 50eur. (Lucky me)
I saw on original Head covers that came with racquets on inside label that states production year 1995 (made in austria), they came without full CAP grommets. As they are in bad shape (grommets), I need to change them, so I found on our club pages that Radical Mp bumper, and grommets will fit.
I have in my shop 2x bumper and grommets from YT Radical MP, and I can get them today, will they fit PT?, and is there a difference because they are made from Teflon and not regular black ones.
I took some pictures of new and my old PT's, I will post them tomorrow...
They will fit. You should not notice any big difference unless the weight is different which probably is. I would weigh the grommets first or racket with original and then with new grommets. You can tune it with lead tape then.
Thanks for quick replay.
If i want to put full Cap grommets, would grommets from prestige YT mid fit the PT, as they are 18x20? or just MP prestige ( microgel or youtek).
Just MP prestige
I'm looking to put a leather grip on my trek PT630 Austria with full CAPS. My other trek PT630 Austria has a leather grip, not sure which kind, and feels better and makes the grip size bigger which is what I want. Also looking to make the racquet more headlight and more manueverable as I'm playing lotsa doubles lately. Will making it more headlight ease the load on my shoulder which gets sore sometimes? I think it will, from a physics and physical therapy point of view... i'm a physical therapist.... SO....Which leather grip works best with this racquet and for what I'm looking for? Head, TW, Babolat, Volkl, Fairway, and where should I buy it?
Thanks in advance! james dot ys dot yang at gmail or reply here as appropriate. thanks and good tennis.
... one more question..... i'm using yonex super grap overgrips, which width 22 or 25 mm works best for feel if i go with the TW grips that offer different sizes? i'm thinking the 1.5 thickness ones are what i want too to increase the grip size a bit.
Tired a few leather grips - Head, Wilson and finally settled on Babolat.
Ultimately it is all down to feel - both the Wilson and the Babolat allowed me the locate the bevels well but overall I enjoyed the feel and feedback from the Babolat more.
Go with Fairway they are the best
And the most expensive, if you can find them. Try the 'bay. Even found them there in black!
cheaper alternative: TW Private Label Leather Grip
Guys I learnt from reading this comprehensive thread that a retail strung up PT630 ( with bumper guard not CAP ) weighs 340g and is about 8pts HL. Having the CAP will add around 10g.
Can someone tell me what is the new balance now? With all 10g distributed around the hoop I am afraid it might make sluggish.... Hence would using the Youtek/microgel radical bumper grommets would be better?
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