*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. MRfStop

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    I picked up a Pro Tour 280 Designed in Austria off of the fleabay for $38 plus shipping.

    Can I be a part of the club? :p
     
  2. prestigeww

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    anyone looking to unload some preferably capped 4 1/2 for a reasonable price can send me message :)
     
  3. od_sf

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    Currently own four 630s and three MIC 280s. Absolutely love them, although I do prefer the 630s which are a softer, with more accuracy, control, and a touch less power. The MIC 280s do definitely play stiffer and feel different from the MIA 630s, but they're great sticks too. I've tried many other racquets (including the newer prestige models), and for my game, nothing compares to 630s/280s. They demand good fitness and footwork along with proper stroke mechanics, but if you give them that, they're the best. The feedback from these sticks is ridiculous, you just know instantly after contact with the ball where its going to land. Pinpoint accuracy.

    I use Babolat VS Touch @ 50 lbs in mains, Luxilon ALU Power Soft @ 46 lbs in crosses.
     
  4. sbaniak

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    I love my MIA 630, it seems to be an oddball though. It's 366 grams with caps, but it's around 12 points headlight somehow. I assume it would have to have been quite a bit under spec for that to be the case since (by my idiot calculations) the static weight isn't high enough for it to be simply a lead in the handle deal.
     
  5. DJ-

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    Question to all pt280 owners regarding grip.. Do the grip sizes feel true to their size? some speculation that for example the 4/12 feels more like 4 /38
    Also if you were to change the grip size by adding a different interchangeable pallet like a tk82, can you retain the existing butt cap?
     
  6. Pleb123

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    Will probably need new butt cap if you go bigger - likely to split if you try and force it on.
     
  7. DJ-

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    Cheers, I would be going down a size, so I guess it would wiggle then if that is the case... didn't want to change butt cap if it is a nice looking one like the hologram type, but if it must be then so be it...
     
  8. dr325i

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    If you're going down the size, I suggest to wrap some tape (electrical or similar) in the buttcap area to "pad" the gap. Otherwise it may be loose and may be making annoying sounds and move around
     
  9. DJ-

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    Thank you Dr, I will keep that in mind. I'm sure there is plenty of good tape without being too heavy and having an anchor effect.

    Pozdrav
     
  10. DJ-

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    I'm keeping this thread alive.. :)

    Can someone recommend based on personal experience, the best quality / looking non-capped grommets for this masterpiece ?

    Also has anyone exprienced a dead frame, wet noodle yet? or has the graphite opened up become even more flexy :)
     
  11. Tanas

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    In searching I found micro gel radical mp non caps are supposed to fit. Just ordered 2 so I'll let u know how it goes
     
  12. DJ-

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    Awesome let me know how they fit / look.. I have bought one capped version and one non capped, the non capped one is for the 280, it's the ti.radical mp ones with black head logo on top, i think it's tk113 or something.. the other ones (capped) are of the i .prestige mp xl, tk55 I think is written on them. They had none of the MG radical in stock, I will order some as back up though if they fit and look the part :) I also understand they are the lightest of the grommets... I will see how they turn out after my stringer finishes them.
     
  13. Tanas

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    For the full cap I used liquidmetal prestige mp grommets. With leather makes it a bit heavy
     
  14. dr325i

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    MG radical fits better IMO. The TiRadical ones are a tad wider and do not flush nicely with the hoop
     
  15. DJ-

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    I did look for those ones after your advice, none in stock and longer wait time, I wanted to get the 280 and 630 sorted soon :) When I put the bumper on the frame to see te fit it appeared to run flush. I will get the mg ones also and observe the difference.
     
  16. DJ-

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    What are you weighing in ? I am expecting to roughly hit the 350 mark on my capped 630, as I am putting on a tan fairway.
     
  17. Tanas

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    I have 2 630 MIA. One is 351g strung, the other is 372g strung. Both with full caps and Head replacement leather. 351g is a great strung weight for me and I enjoy that frame, and while I look forward to hitting with the other frame for feedback and feel, it is a bit much on the elbow after the 1.5 hour mark.
    I'm going back to non cap and synthetic grip on the 372g frame to see if I can get close to a matched pair.
    I've only tried the Head replacement leather, and I'm thinking there might be lighter and thinner leather options. I ordered a couple Tourna leather grips to check those out.
     
  18. DJ-

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    350grams I feel is perfect, heavier racquets were so the norm back in the day. Modern day tennis seems to emphasize lighter racquets. The heaviest I have used is 355gr mark. You should definitely shed of 16-18grams by changing grips and grommets.

    check this thread out, might give you some ideas.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
     
  19. Tanas

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    Good thread thanks!
     
  20. DJ-

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    No problem. You got lead on your 372g pt630 ? seems a lot...
     
  21. Tanas

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    No lead or silicone. I replaced the full caps with mg radical grommets, and they fit nicely. Replaced the leather with Tourna thin perforated grip. I'll weigh it up when I get it back from stringing.
     
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    Hey guys, do I qualify? :)
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    sounds good! I just recently played with my pt630, 359gr strung with tk57 cap grommets and fairway leather, ra62, flex 57, 336sw, and 32cm balance. I am enjoying the hit I get, slightly heavier than I'm used to, but i I will trial it, great control on shots though with plenty of pop. I will string my pt280 with mg radical grommets and a synthetic grip and check the specs on that.
     
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  24. Tanas

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    With microgel radical mp grommets and thin Tourna synthetic grip and Tourna over grip.....341g, 32 cm balance. Strung with head gravity at 52 main/50 cross. Plays like a dream. The couple changes make a huge difference. I really like this set up.
     
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  25. DJ-

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    How did you find the microgel radical mp grommets, to me they look of a very weak quality, for the price though it's not an issue. Even the stringer was surprised how flimsy they are. One grommet hole was bigger (around the 4 or 5 oclock position) but otherwise fit ok. Should get the 280 soon. The 630 with the caps and leather is a tad heavy, especially for doubles. I do love the fairway leather though, best leather grip handsdown, quality !
     
  26. daniel2015

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    Is it worth to buy a chinese PT280 for u$s150?
    I want to try the PT280 because everyone says its a great frame but I d like "the original feel"... and I dont know if the chinese is a lower quality copy with less twaron or something like that.
    Opinions?
    TY from South America
     
  27. DJ-

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    IMO for that price you can find 8.5 /10 even 9 / 10 made in Austria versions on the ee bay site. There are plenty of 280's and 630's there. I personally would get them. Nothing beats the construction and feel of the Austrian ones. From what people say on here the Chinese version is way stiffer and different feel.
     
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  28. Tanas

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    Yeah i guess they are kinda flimsy, but I haven't noticed extra plastic loss, just a normal amount. They were tough to finish around 12 o'clock.
     
  29. mrravioli

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    A question for PT630 users. I planed to buy a replacement grommet set for my I.Prestige MP (standard length), but wrongly ordered one for the XL version which is non-cap. I enjoy the weight and balance for my I.Prestige but find my capped PT630 to be a bit heavy. So, can I install the non-cap on my PT630 then? Thx.
     
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  30. DJ-

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    Yes you can install them, I have the exact ones. Recently installed capped, non capped, i.prestige xl, microgel radical, e.t.c on both my 630 and 280. The I.prestige ones fit, but are not 100% plush with the hoop, barely noticable! You will remove 10grams in weight with the non capped ones. My capped one is heavy also. Head were pretty consistent with their grommet fit, as long as the 630cm head size is in question, no problem.
     
  31. mrravioli

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    Thanks, DJ. Really helpful info. My 630 is over 360g with cap, removing 10 would bring it into my spec.
     
  32. DJ-

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    No problem matey. You can also look at different lighter grips, that will however alter your balance. You sound like you know your ideal specs. Part of the fun is experimenting. I recently bought the 280 and 630, so I had the luxury of doing swaps, testing both with different grommets. The head microgel radical mp are the lightest non cap grommets, but also the worst quality. For a few dollars though, no problem.
    They alll seem to fit well, minor non-effect differences with some grommet holes (diameter), and as I said minor plush issues with some grommets. There is plenty of info here, and good people who will help. Dr325i is well informed.
     
  33. prestigeww

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    Does anyone know the lightest cap grommets that will fit? I use the MG Prestige MP caps on my pt280's and its fine, but if I could shave a couple grams from the hoop I think I could get it to be just a bit more maneuverable. Mine are both over 370g but have 2 overgrips.
     
  34. DJ-

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    I think it's been covered here the i.Prestige MP caps are 25 grams, LM prestige MP caps 30 grams
     
  35. DJ-

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    Finally some pics, Pro tour 630, 359gr strung with tk57 cap grommets and fairway leather, flex 57, 336sw, and 32cm balance.
    Great stick for singles matches, and against heavy hitters, awesome hit.


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  36. PSC85

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    what seems to be the average strung weight for retail PT630? I've been getting into this PT630 craze, and purchased a couple PT57A with newer pj, however the customization done and weight felt somewhat lighter overall for these pro stocks, and as a matter of fact the retail MIA PT630s I use actually feels more solid than the PT57As. Has any of you had similar experience?
     
  37. DJ-

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    Pro tour 280, 337gr, sw 300, balance 31.5, flex 55, vs team 49lbs, alu power 47lbs.. Loving this stick for doubles, even though the sw is low, still getting plenty of pop and power, volleys are great, serves too. Very buttery smooth feel. When you hit with these sticks you feel as if tennis should be played this way ! My first exp. with gamma grips, loving it.

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  38. BlueB

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    I've never heard if a PT 280 with 300 SW strung... How is that even possible?
     
  39. DJ-

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    Those stats came with my racquet after I got it back from the stringers, they are very good and reliable I doubt it is a misprint, who knows though, I will get it checked again though. Everything feels light, grommets are weak and cheap, and the grip is very light.
     
  40. pt630_belgium

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    Are there different euro pro tours "designed in austria"?

    the lay out is different?
    Someone knows?

    Thanks.


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  41. vsbabolat

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    All Pro Tour 630 with Designed in Austria were manufactured in Austria. Same Layup.
     
  42. pt630_belgium

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    Ok thanks vsbabolat.
    I didnt know there where some small differents between the austrian ones.
     
  43. PSC85

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    @vsbabolat
    I've read somewhere that Pro Tour 630 was designed with help mainly from Muster, but I've also read else where that Muster's own personal frames, while with the same mold, is quite a bit stiffer. Does this mean that he knew already the game gear is supposed to be going to a stiffer racquet trend? Perhaps RA60~61 is the lower limit?
     
  44. vsbabolat

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    The marketing material had Emilio Sanchez and Thomas Muster helping to develop the Pro Tour 630/280. Muster personal frames were stiffer. The original Radical Tour 260/630 was stiffer as well than the Pro Tour 280/630. Both coming from the same exact mould.
     
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    do you know about S.E.1 and S.E.2 frames
    VS, you talk about Musters personal frame being stiffer. i´ve recently come across a pt630 with s.e.1 printed on it. there also seems to be an s.e.2 version.
    do you know more about that?
    thanks
     
  46. DJ-

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    They are all pt57 molds, I think the s.e.2 is a pt57c, a rare one, I think it is also stiffer, like 66ra... There is even a s.e.3... all same molds different layups...
     
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    Finally got my 280 all ready. All set and done it sits at 374g w/ caps, og, dampener, and a fairway
     
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  48. DJ-

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    What string setup did you use for this heavy beast ?
     
  49. Chipnkick

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    Tier1 fw 18g/ PL2 18g @ 50/47 lbs
     
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    s.e.3 is real news to me. the s.e.1 seems to play like a normal pt630, only at 13,2 oz strung it´s certainly heavier than normal
     

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