*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. hyogen

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    Hmmm....do you guys wanna hang me now? D: This is all I had left from what my Dad got for free: Prince Prism 17. Plays really well. doesn't feel too harsh. I strung it at about 57lbs. It's playing MUCH better than with my NXT 16/spiral flex and NXT 16/gamma synth gut 46lbs setup.

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  2. AlpineCadet

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    I remember those. They're OLD, lol. Those strings aren't going to last longer than 10 hours if you hit with moderate pace and spin.
     
  3. hyogen

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    sigh.....this is becoming a BIG problem.

    the same nagging wrist pain has been going on since THANKSGIVING of last year......

    it just will not get better.... It seems to be worse with a racquet like the PT280 that has a tight string bed and I really have to work at getting good topspin by using SW grip and really flicking the wrists. maybe poor technique, but my wrist will not heal. I should probably lay OFF it... I was feeling sharp pain while trying to lift a pot of water today.

    What could be wrong? a torn ligament? like tonlars???

    this is my dominant right hand.

    The cause of this was right before thanksgiving when I used a Pure Drive for a couple days thinking I could handle it. A couple days later my elbow was mush and my wrist was a little sore for the first time (wrist)

    Then the next couple days I was using a MG Prestige Pro...... and that's where i think the injury to the wrist mostly happened. It has a balance that really got me flicking my wrists a lot...

    since then my wrist has been clicking/popping with movement :( Someone trade me their PT630 for my austria made PT280 :'(
     
  4. jayserinos99

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    Go to a doctor and get it checked out. Then rest it (and maybe rehab). Then work on the technique, your wrist should not be the major component to get topspin. The weight of the PT is making it worse...also, no racquet should NOT be making you flick your wrists. Again, it's technique; my assumption is that since it's lighter, you feel you can whip it quicker, thus leading to bad technique.
     
  5. AlpineCadet

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    You have arm pain, yet you're still attempting to play tennis by switching rackets?
     
  6. armsty

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    Loving the rainbow, I have a roll of it sitting in my room as well :) going to put it in one of my rackets and use it for days when I do only coaching little kiddies, they'd be amused.
     
  7. Ross K

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    Well... I hit again recently a few times with my PT and found I could play with it far more effectively than a year ago or whenever it was. For control-orientated baseline play, this racket is supremely good. Furthermore, I can absolutely confirm I've never had the good fortune to play with such a wonderfully smooth and easy, addictively lush feeling rod... no, when it comes to feeling this is my undisputed number one! However... as well as still being just a tad too low powered for me personally - (and, yes, I'm not an advanced level player and I know a lot of this is entirely down to my own deficiencies and not the rackets) - but still, I definitely, 100 per cent don't consider it to be topspin friendly (certainly not like many frames where topspin is readily available and easily accessed.) No, it seems to me you really have to work very hard indeed and for seemingly modest results. So, given the others issues you're facing also, sorry to say it, but I reckon it might be time to prioritize a topspin friendly frame and call it a day with the PT's.
     
  8. hyogen

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    I've been using the Nike Wrist Wrap also--and that seems to not help as much as I'd hope. It's not so much the wrist snapping motion...it's the extra exertion that I have to give in order to put that necessary topspin on the ball.
     
  9. Pro_Tour_630

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    Just to clear few issues: Average club players are not going to get mega topspin/arch with 15g or even some 16g strings in a dense frame. Only Pro Players have enough head speed to generate that kind of spin/arch etc.... us mere mortals have to depend on thinner strings to produce heavy topspin/arch in dense pattern frames. If I play with my PT630 with anything over 1.20mm it will render my PT630 useless for me in terms of spin/kick/arch etc....I would be hitting the net most of the time because I would not be able to get enough arch.

    So if you are a flat eastern hitter you can get away with playing some 16g in the PT, many should go at least 1.20mm or even thinner IMO. I would recommend biphase or NRG18g at low tension. or 18g Kevlar at 40lbs with a soft cross like gosen 18g at 50, I have given these recommendation many times yet some members keep on installing 16g at mid tension :confused:
     
  10. bossass

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    Pardon me for not wading through this whole thread, but can someone tell me:

    1. What are the replacement grommet/CAP options for the PT280
    2. How does it stack up to the MG Prestige Mid?

    Thanks, and you can add my name to the list. 3x PT280, designed in Austria.
     
  11. hyogen

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    michael, surely you'd consider trading your pt630 - I don't care if it's china made, for my made in austria PT280 D:
     
  12. OnyxZ28

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    There is no such thing as a made in China PT630.
     
  13. Jason Sugai

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    i have 3- PT 280's (designed in austria US models)

    1- Chinese (i think- how can you tell?) PT 280.

    i'm trying out different strings currently but so far i've liked Luxilon BB Original 15L and Topspin Cyberpower 16 both @ 62 lbs.

    i'm 5.0 with an all court play but mostly a heavy spin baseliner right now with occasional serve and volley.

    i'm thinking about switching to the new Microgel Prestige MP though to get the new "updated" feel... the 280's still feel GREAT :)
     
  14. Jason Sugai

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    is the HEAD TOUR XTRA LONG (green one) a Pro Tour 280 with an extra inch?

    it says made in austria.. these (tour xtra long) seems to be very rare???
     
  15. rorschack

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    1)Lots of options. For the PT280 (Made in Austria), I think it's best to NOT "CAP" it to keep the balance point (strung) at around 6-7 points headlight. Otherwise, it feels like a baseball bat at the net. If you CAP it, the balance point will be around 4 points. Add some more weight to it if you use natural gut. yike!

    Grommet choices are (from lightest to heaviest):
    a)liquidmetal Radical MidPlus = 18 grams
    b)i.Prestige XL Midplus (non-CAP) = 20 grams
    c)i.Prestige MidPlus (CAP) = 25 grams
    d)liquidmetal Prestige MidPlus (full CAP) = 30 grams

    I prefer option "a" on the PT280 to keep it more maneuverable at the net. If it's too headlight, can always add some lead tape.

    For PT630, you gotta CAP it since it's so light to start with.
     
  16. bossass

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    ^Very thorough and helpful. Thank you.

    Mine are "designed in Austria" does that make a diff. for weight. Are they still heavy? Thanks.
     
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  17. rorschack

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    I used to own the PT280 (designed in Austria) but never weighted it. But I think it's very similar to the PT280 (made in Austria). So, don't CAP it.
     
  18. reflexace

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    this looks like the best place to ask, considering it's the official pro tour 630/280 club...

    does anyone know what is the current-line equivalent to the replacement grip used on the pro tour 630? i'm not sure if all versions used the same grip, but if i'm not mistaken it's called 'contour cushion II' or something along those lines. i feel it strikes a great balance between comfort and thickness.

    what would be a similar replacement grip in the current head line-up available at tw, or from other brands with a similar feel?
    thanks
     
  19. Pro_Tour_630

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    most stock grips are usually cheaply made IMO, I have tried many replacement grips on the PT and there are few that i like, one is gamma hitec blue of course which is firm, the other is prince dura pro very soft and cushiony, volk has some quality replacement grip as well. but to answer your question I think head traction would be closest but I hate it so it is what you like,
     
  20. red clay

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    premier tour paint job

    Dear friends
    First of all y would like to introduce my self, I’m from Argentina and play tennis since I was born. Actually play with a pro tour 630.
    Recently I get two head premier tour with 630 and 18 x 20 head – I guess a paint job. Searching in the forum only could by one of two racquets: pro tour 630/280 – I have four of them already, two with intelligence paint job – or the radical tt.
    My question is: there is any way to know which one is?
    As far as I know both have the same mold and almost the same weigh.
    Thanks for your help.
    PD: sorry about my English,
     
  21. Jonas

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    If you could post some pictures of the frames it would be easier to help you out.
     
  22. red clay

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    some pictures of my premier racquet

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    Note: look at the head, is a 18 x 20 and 630, identical to my PT630 cm2.
    Thanks for any help.
     
  23. Pro_Tour_630

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    it is a TT radical
     
  24. Pro_Tour_630

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    Came out swinging the Pro Tour 630 at birth, nice :)
     
  25. red clay

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    how do you know that is a tt radical?
    i can`t tell a diference from the other PT 630.
     
  26. Pro_Tour_630

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    they are the same mold, took a guess from the third picture, barcode inside and made in austria inside the throat were common on TTradicals and premier tours, and not on Pro Tour's. The TT radical should play a bit firmer. This is a rare frame that we have not seen before? could be for Guga :confused:

    do you see a line along the inside V throat almost like splitting the frame in the middle vertically?
     
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  27. red clay

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    Thank for your replay, I still have no ideas which racquet it is – the TT radical or the PT 630...
    I think that the – barcode inside MADE IN AUSTRIA – is just a part of the paint job and is not a probe of it identity.
    I have another two paint jobs – belong to Pablo Albano a former ATP and Davis Cup player from Argentina – and have all the tips of the intelligence paint job, include the statements inside.
    I can tell that there is not a bar code inside, at list no inside the grip – I have to replace one.
    That line that you ask me to look at, I can’t find it, is a line of the paint job?
    By the way tomorrow I will play whit the racquets, whit the same string and tension, tell you if I find any difference.
    There is a way – no in the paint job – that could tell which one is? Are these racquets so similar that it doesn’t madders?
    I can’t imagine that the people from HEAD made those fine racquets and don’t put a mark on it.
    Ones again thank for your replay and sorry about my English.
    Alberto
     
  28. BorgPulse

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    Hey, can I join - just bought 2 of onkystompers PT630's - not that they shipped yet :)
     
  29. Pro_Tour_630

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    only if you promise to let your niece try them out:)
     
  30. AlpineCadet

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    Hey MC, how's everything going? I just bought my i.Prestige MP standard. Will let you know how it compares to the PT630 and LM Radical. Maybe you can chime in with your expertise as well. ;)
     
  31. BorgPulse

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    For sure:) Funny thing - I went with her last night to figure out her grip size - it's like 3 7/8 or 4 even! So now I'm going to buy her 3 or 4 junior rackets to try out (they're much cheaper so no big deal) and send the balance to my nephew who's 11. All that good advice for nothing:)
     
  32. hyogen

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    alas.... woe is me.

    my wrist still is very much injured. i can play on it, but I'm sure anyone would advise against it.

    I hope by Thanksgiving of this year my wrist will be fully healed.... I've had this wrist issue since Thanksgiving of last year :(
     
  33. geesechops

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    So did the HEAD Prestige classic 600 come after the PT 280? Did the 280/630 start it all? I know my Wilson history pretty well, but I would like to know more about this special racquet that spawned all the clones out today.

    Here's one if anyone's looking: item# 330245281338
     
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  34. Dexter

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    Hello you all
    Im a new user from Argentina. Are currently used one PT280 Made In Austria and can say it is exellent. Im welling to get one or two more as we are playing "Interclubes" ( National Tournaments against other tennis clubs). Have realized are very hard to find.So if anyone has an idea of where to get the PT280/630 will be actually of grat help.
    Thanks for your help and congrats on the forum it is quite interesting
     
  35. jayserinos99

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    No, the Prestige came before the PT280/630. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (VSbab, PT630, Tandayu, Deuce) but the sequence is:

    Edge
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    Prestige Pro
    Prestige 600
    Prestige Classic 600
    Trisys 300/Prestige Tour
    <- Pro Tour 280/630 ->

    IIRC, the PT was different from the Prestige; I remember seeing the PT from the 1994 Tennis magazine gear guide along with the Trisys 260.
     
  36. reflexace

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    thanks for your input pro_tour_630. i've been using the gamma hi-tec grips for the frames that need replacing, but lately it seems like they've been building up the grip size a bit; either that or i'm losing my skill at putting on replacement grips / not tugging hard enough. maybe i'd have the same problem with any other grip. quite happy with the gamma hi-tec otherwise..
     
  37. Vik

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    Any idea why Head Liquid Metal Prestige Mid+ Grommets would not fit all the way around my PT280?

    The stringer just called and said he couldn't put the new grommets on b/c they didn't fit. Did I get the wrong grommets?
     
  38. Pro_Tour_630

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    twisted my ankle again, and it swelled up again, not taking rest:evil:, I am still playing on it with an ankle brace. :oops: shoulder is fine, thanks. if you do end up liking the iprestige MP I have one that I started to paint but did not finish, will send photos if you like, it is primed. I will dig up my review on the iprestigeMP vs PT630 it is somewhere.
    you can sand down one of your PT to 4 even :) there are many 4 even stock frames to choose from, email me
    I am no expert on head lineage since there are so many variants from different continents, it gets to be confusing......... the experts (deuce colpo tandayu, vsbab) might want to correct a few so..... did not include the radical line trysis 260

    yes edge (smaller head) then TXP professional then prestige pro and its variants, elite pro and electra pro, master (pretty much Head was confused with the wide body era) then prestige 600 lime green (big mistake along with the premier which came later on). Then we had the Prestige Classic 600 which came out the same time as the Pro Tour 630

    the Pro Tour 630 was designed around 1993 and was marketed in 1994 in Europe first.

    The trysis and the prestige tour suspension grips followed and were droped later because of weak grips that were squeaking and breaking off
    There were some prestige tour 660 with no suspension grips

    New era came in with:

    Pro Tour 280 with no CAPs that were made in china eventually (should have bought 1000 at $50 each)

    The classic mid no collar with no "prestige" name due to wilson owning the "prestige" name first and the classic tour 660

    iprestige mid ,mp, mp xl

    Special Run Prestige classic with no collar

    LM prestige mid and mp

    Special run prestige classic 600 with collar (last batch)

    FXP prestige mid and mp

    MG prestige mid mp and pro
     
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  39. red clay

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    Be careful whit your ankle, i have mine twisted 4 times and only a chiropractic friend from when a playing volleyball put me back on the court.
    There is a very good exercise to pump up the muscle on the side of the leg that keeps your ankle from twisting. If I can get a picture of it I will put it.
    Thank for your help whit the racquet.
    Alberto
    PD: I played today and I can tell a difernece, is the same racquet – or mi hand has left all the sensitivity
    PD2: I repaired a racquet whit suspension grip – trisys 300 -, and changing the little pieces of rubber. Good grip, no vibration.
     
  40. AlpineCadet

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    Sorry to hear. But if you never let your ankle heal, it'll always give you problems when you play. You should def. think about that, while resting in front of your PC with a beer and posting up your thoughts on the i.Prestige MP! ;)
     
  41. Dexter

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    Red Clay thanks for your info will keep that as an option.

    Cheers
     
  42. Murray_Maniac

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    Nevermind 10 char
     
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    Could someone be kind enough to send me the link for a post that discuss the difference between the Pt 280 and the Pt 630 if there is any between the two. I did a search for that topic but couldn't find anything.
     
  44. Dexter

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    Hello Everyone
    Does anybody know when production of PT 280 ended?
    Thanks for that
     
  45. Pro_Tour_630

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    I just strung a 630 for a TW forum member...what a beautiful racket! (I had never seen one in person before)...felt great in hand...hopefully I can get a hit with one some day :)

    Nick
     
  47. red clay

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    i guess that the PT 280/630 when out of production in 1997. that for the rest of the humanity not for the pro´s. they still poduce it in austria.
     
  48. gonzalocatalino

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    Hi red clay. Are you "pescaboga" on mercadolibre?
    I´ve owned 2 pro tour 630 with liquidmetal radical paintjob a few months ago...
     
  49. Vik

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    Well the 2 Chinese PT280s that I bought recently must have some sort of variance w/ the frames b/c the LMP Mid+ grommets did not fit. The same grommets fit fine w/ the previous Chinese PT280 I bought.

    Does that sound possible or is it more likely that I received a bad batch of grommets from TW?

    Very frustrating. Not to mention the stringer put the wrong strings in my 630.:evil:
     
  50. vsbabolat

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    Try the MG Prestige MP grommets.http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageHEAD-HMGPMPG.html The grommet hole might be have a smaller diameter.
     

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