The Official Lead Tape Placement+Racket Customization Thread

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  1. melele

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    Hey people. I've noticed that lead tape at 3 and 9 reduces the life of strings. When I was playing without lead tape, I broke the strings every 10 - 12 hours. Later I put 8 grams lead tape at 3 and 9, and now I'm breaking strings every 5 hours.

    Has anybody noticed it? Am I the only one that thinks it?

    Ty mates!
     
  2. Ramon

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    That's the first time I heard that. Maybe you're the only one that thinks it.

    I recently took lead tape off of my racquet. Just last week I broke one of my favorite multis twice in one week. One of them lasted 4 hours and the other lasted less than 1 hour. These same strings always lasted me 10+ hours before. I don't think it has anything to do with the lead weights being taken off.
     
  3. melele

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    Are they lasted 10+ hours before to put the lead tape?

    I'm sure that it affects the string durability but I don't know why. If you see my strings when I have played 4 hours, you can see that they are deformed near the lead tape's zone. Maybe it sounds strange but I can see it.

    Maybe next week I'll take out the lead tape and I will see what happens with the strings durability.

    thank for your reply.
     
  4. Ramon

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    I'm not sure if you read my post correctly. When I had lead tape on my racquet, the strings were getting 10+ hours. I've been playing without lead tape recently, and without lead tape the same strings lasted 1-4 hours.

    However, I don't attribute any of this to lead tape. I'm chalking it up as 2 unfortunate mishaps.
     
  5. Dunloper62

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    At 3 & 9 to enlarge her sweetspot.
     
  6. Bartelby

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    Every woman should play an ezone with lead, then?
     
  7. Alain

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    Sand the bumper to deacrease the swingweight

    HI,
    I have 5 Volkl PB10 mid . I need to make them same specifications .
    My prefer swingweight with this racquet seems to be 325 for a better maneuvrability with lesser weight possible .
    Two of them are 331 with higher balance (+0.2) and weight( +2g) than the others .
    I already used paper glass to sand the bumper ( from 3 to 9 o'clock) and decrease it easily for 2g .
    Now the result is the same for the 5 racquets: 339g strung , Balance 31,7 , swingweight 325 .
    Is it the good way to obtain the result or do you thik it would be better to accept to increase weight, balance, swingweight and decrease MGR/I°( initially 20,70) adding lead to the others racquets to obtain the same specifications for the 5 racquets ?
    Is any vibrations will appear, playing when decreasing the bumper weight ?
    In a second aspect , MGR/I° has increased from 20,70 to 20,82 . So is it the same to increase MGR/I° by increasing weight at 7" or decreasing the bumper weight ?
    Do you agree ?

    Thank you

    Alain
     
  8. Love Anet

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    A question about finding SW2. The procedure involved adding weight until the ball went long, and then keep adding until the ball goes in again.

    My question is where are you supposed to be adding this weight when performing this exercise? Or does it matter?
     
  9. xFullCourtTenniSx

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    Doesn't matter, but the farther up the grip is generally better.

    Sorry for not updating. Got injured and avoided all things tennis because otherwise I'd end up playing through injuries and that's no good. Sorta forgot about this thread. o_O Wish I could give someone else the ability to edit the first post.
     
  10. Love Anet

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    That's understandable, please, it's a wonderful thread. As a tennis player you are always wondering if you are using the most suitable racket. Usually you just try different rackets and hope for the best, it's all kind of vague. It's good to know there could be a more systematic approach.

    In my question I was asking where on the entire racket do you add the weight, but you seem to be indicating that it should be on the handle. Is that correct? If so, why not at the 12 O'clock position, for example?
     
  11. Stringers

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    Just wanted to add to the thread.

    My current racquet of choice is my Volkl PB10 Mid. Completely love the racquet, the low flex rating, buttery soft feel and great stability I get from this stick.

    The past couple months, I've been playing more than I have in the past year. I still love my frame, after hitting tonight, I found that I am not get the power off of my backhand side and serve that I would like, no matter what string I try.

    After hitting for about an hour tonight, went into our shop, grabbed the lead tape and added about 5 grams from 10-2. Promptly went outside to see the difference. WOW. I couldn't believe the difference just a little lead made. All the sudden my serves came to life! I loved it!

    I can't wait to go back out tomorrow and experiment some more :)
     
  12. Stringers

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    I could be be wrong in my thinking since I just started experiment with tape myself, but continuing to add to 12 only seems like it could be painful depending on how head heavy the racquet gets.

    Like I said, I could be way off. Just the first thing that popped into my head.
     
  13. Carefree

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    I have a Head YT IG Radical Pro, and I just added some lead to the handle to get a more HL balance.

    I was shocked at the results. I added 10g under the grip, that's it. The racquet has quite a high SW in stock form (especially for something that light, 310g - spec). It was so much more solid. Everything I hit felt heavier. I did have some problem with depth though, it took a while to get used to it.

    The biggest change was to my serve. When I hit it well, I could feel how heavy it was, however, my serve is inconsistent at the best of times, and getting used to the new weight didn't help, though it will come around eventually.

    I wasn't expecting to have depth issues without adding any weight to the hoop, that was a bit unexpected. The plow through seemed to carry the ball further.

    It doesn't sound great now that I've red my post, but I'm actually quite happy with the new feel. So much more solid.
     
  14. marcus2908

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    hey guys, i am currently using the head ig prestige pro, and i love the balance of it. how do i set up the lead placement in order to keep the EXACT balance of the racket? i only want to increase weight. balance the same
     
  15. El Nino

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    I'm currently using the HEAD Youtek Ig Speed 300 and I am currently experimenting with lead tape. My main weapons are my forehand and volleys. My FH is become more spinny but if I use a polarised setup, my volleys might suffer. Should I used lead at 3&9 then add a small amount to 12? Or what should I do?
     
  16. 3fees

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    good thread
     
  17. CCH4TENNIS

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    Hi El Nino

    Speaking from experience from customising my BIomimetic 300, 200Lite, 200 and 100, adding weight at 9 N 3 will definitely help your volleys as it will increase twist weight.

    Cheers !
     
  18. djNEiGht

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    My racquet mods started w a leather grip and then added sapras (0.5 oz each i think) power strips at 3/9. I then added the same strips to 5/7 and I think the weight is close to 13 oz now and has brought the balance back close to stock (BB London) I've been using this set up for almost 2 years but think it's time to cut down the weight.

    I would still like to use leather and am wondering how to cut down the amount of lead in the hoop while bringing the balance back to stock. Maybe a 0.5 oz at 10 and 2? I take it the sweet spot might move up which I wouldn't mind. What type of playing characteristics could I expect from that change and are there any other suggestions? I also play on trying the Gamma lead tape and have noticed it is thinner than the Tourna Sampras strips.
     
  19. mikeespinmusic

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    Its technically not less spin being depolarized. Its just that polarized has the bigger loop action with its spin whereas as Depol is flatter. Pol allows a whippier shot.
     
  20. TRVX1912

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    I have Racquet A at 11.03oz, 6hl, 301 sw

    Racquet B I have at 11.05 oz, 6.5Hl, 295 sw

    Where and how much lead do i put on each racquet to match them up?
     
  21. The Doctor

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    Hey guys, I always use a 4 3/4 grip, I found a racquet on the great bay with a 4 1/2 grip. Would I be able to slim down the grip(sanding) without there being any side effect to the playing(excluding weight, swingweight ect...) to put it more plainly would the racquet still play close to the same without breaking the racquet somehow?
     
  22. prestige.head

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    (I use a Head IG Prestige Pro)

    If I put 2g at 3&9 how many grams would I use on the butt cap to counterbalance?

    & if I were to do 4g at 3&9 how many grams would I use on the butt cap to counterbalance?
     
  23. rolliges

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    If you like how they play but just want them more equal, then A should get a little weight at 6 o'clock or in the upper throat and B a little weight at 12 o'clock.
     
  24. Relinquis

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    Useful customisation tools

    you might want to check out these two tools. Will help you estimate how much and where to add weight to achieve certain specs.

    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customization.php
    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customizationReverse.php

    you can get your specs from the reviews section, or measure them yourself for an even more accurate approach.
     
  25. prestige.head

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    well i just want to keep the balance point the same as it was before adding lead to 3&9.
    someone told me if i put 2g at 3&9 i would need to put 1g in the buttcap and if i did 4g i would need to put 2g in the buttcap.

    is this correct?
     
  26. Relinquis

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    prestige.head,

    if you use the 2nd link i posted and enter your racquet specs it will tell you what changes when you add lead to 3&9... then you can insert different values for lead in teh buttcap to see how much gets the balance back to where it was originally.
     
  27. novak.20v

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    its neither correct or not correct. Just keep adding weight to the buttcap until your balance point is where it was/where you want.

    I also use the IGPP, but I don't counterbalance because I like where the balance point is after adding 2g of lead at 3 & 9.
     
  28. volleynets

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    Benjamin Becker gave me his racquet this week. He has two layers of lead at 3 and 9 o'clock. There is also lead under the bumper at 12 o'clock!!!! Racket is really heavy and it looks like he is using both polarized and depolarized.
     
  29. Praprad

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    Is there any way to have a polarized setup without raising the sweetspot up? Maybe by counterbalancing at 6 o clock?
     
  30. heartattack

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    sorry guys. i just want your help here.. because im going to put lead at 10 and 2 o clock and the grip handle as well. now i change my mind to put it at 3 and 9. Should i go down an inch or up on my lead placement on the handle? Thanks.
     
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    Hey, I have acquired a couple Volkl pro stock rackets when they were available on TW. They are about 9.5 ounces (269g) unstrung and I would prefer them being around 11.8 ounces strung (about 320 grams unstrung I suppose). About 7pts head light is what I am aiming for. The TW calculator suggests 16.2 grams at 22.8 in and 34.8 towards the handle. Would the sweet spot be pretty distorted due to the distribution of weight? How else would I be able to distribute it with the given specs?
     
  33. Overdrive

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    Was Benjamin Becker using a Boris Becker? :)
     
  34. Sander001

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    What's an average length of lead tapes to put on for 3+9 o'clock? 3 inches, 4? I'm planning on getting on the gamma 1/4 lead tape.
     
  35. djNEiGht

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    it's all up to you. how much do you want to alter the balance?
     
  36. Sander001

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    I just want to get more stability.
     
  37. purple-n-gold

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    usually do 4 inch strips at 3/9, but on my steam 105 used 6 inch 3/9, going to add some at 12 next.
     
  38. djNEiGht

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    I like using the reel fr tennis warehouse and the 1/2 inch gamma. I cut the gamma length wise. The finish is much nicer than tourna power strips.

    I hope to use the gamma and punch holes in it to go directly over the holes.

    Put a nickel on the butt cap to counter balance or install a heavier grip if you want to keep same stock balance
     
  39. Sander001

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    Yeah but do the Tourna strips give you cancer?
    Cool. I'll do 4".
     
  40. djNEiGht

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    Playing it safe...so no more power strips
    :)
     
  41. yemenmocha

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    pics please! :shock:
     
  42. Fyrepower

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    Does anyone here know what category (SW1 or SW2) Djokovic falls under?
     
  43. ART ART

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    According to a recent post, the SW is ~370 strung, so by some posters, it's SW2 ... :)
     
  44. Sander001

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    This isn't that much weight we're adding at all, is it? If we're going by the quarter inch Gamma:

    4" x 4 = 16"
    1" = 0.25gram
    16 x 4 = 4gr
    4gr = 0.14oz

    I actually only used 3.5" so the total weight added was only 0.12oz yet the extra stability I got made a very noticeable difference, especially on the volley.
    And I didn't really notice much difference in SW because I took off leather grip and am just using an additional overgrip instead.

    I should've done this a long time ago.
     
  45. juandv9307

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    i just bought a head youtek ig prestige mp and i would like to improve power but i do not know from where to where should one apply lead, if somebody could post pictures would be awesone thanks
     
  46. Relinquis

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    4 grams at 3&9 is significant. You will feel it. It's like 8+ swing weight units depending on the racquet.
     
  47. Lilguy1456

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    How do you guys handle there being different amounts of dust on either side of your frame? Doesn't it throw off the balance?

    What about overgrips that absorb sweat? Does that make the racquet more headlight and thus affect your play? :)
     
  48. djNEiGht

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    it doesn't drive me crazy or mess up my game as much as teflon tubing imbalance
     
  49. Big_Dangerous

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    I hear Babolat is releasing new Tungsten strips for racket weighting. I guess they've decided to get out of the lead game.
     
  50. Fuji

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    My shop ordered in some tungsten tape for matching. I can't wait to fiddle around with it a bit! :)

    It should be quite helpful for adding lots of weight due to the density/mass of the strips.

    -Fuji
     

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