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  1. Power Player

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    Heavy spins and angles are the exo's biggest plusses. I am also tryng full poly again, and I'd suggest a crisp one, and not a soft setup.
     
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    I know you've recommended a couple set-ups earlier in this thread but I can't recall them specifically right now-- any specific poly or hybrid set-ups that you are fond of at the moment?

    thanks again.
     
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    I am going to try out cyberflash this week, but ALU power, big hitter silver, tour bite would all make sense.
     
  4. Ross K

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    Wow, your post so sums up my own experiences...:-o

    I, too, was forced to pull out my APD recently after becoming frustrated with so much coming back at me over the net with my Exo. I fared better with it last week and didn't reach for my trusty Bab, however, I still have concerns the Exo isn't quite the fit for me from the b-line that the APD is. So much of how I like to play is dictating the points (relatively short points if poss) from the backcourt with heavy power/spin/depth - opponent powered back on their heels. The Bab seems better for this, that power is more effortless and consistent; but the Exo has lots of other qualities and traits, so I'm definitely playing on with it and seeing if I can't get happier with it in the area we both seem to have concerns about.

    BTW, still think mods could be the answer. I presently have 2g @ 12 and 2g countering balance in butt. My instinct is I could do with some more on the hoop. May try a few g spread out @ 3 and 9 or something similar.

    BTW2, I like full job TB in this in the low 50's. That said, my next string-job is a poly/multi hybrid of Beast/Bab N Vy. Am curious to see how I fare with this set up. The hybriding is largely to do with wrist pains so I thought I'd stay off the TB a while, but I'm generally keen to see how I like the performance of this set up as I'm not so familiar at all with hybrids.
     
  5. mxmx

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    Fair points...glad i asked...

    I did not buy this racket for aesthetics either...cause i don't find it to be one of the best looking rackets either ( I don't find the gold very appealing...looks like a rappers teeth). I bought it because i am loyal to prince and have given other brands a go. I believe in Prince's racket setups in what they are trying to achieve...and the tour100 seems to be great in theory based on specs alone..
    If i wanted to buy a racket based on aesthetics, it would have been the new rebel with the flat yellow paint job and new string ports. And i nearly did :p (but its specs thankfully stopped me).

    I think i must have really been put off how ugly my previous double partners' prince looked with lead tape. Looked like it was trying to cover chipped paint or cracks. Thankfully i have two tour100's and can thus try lead and compare it to the stock one and then choose.
     
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  6. mxmx

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    I would not play well with a pink and black racket, no matter how well the racket is set up...i dont think id be able to deal with the complex id have with everyone asking me wether its a ladies racket... :)

    would you lead a racket no matter what? or do you first aim for a stock racket setup?
     
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    Ferrer on the weekend, did not seem to serve well with the 03 tour either. Wonder why he plays with the 03 tour and not the exo tour....Anyone knows if he uses lead?

    Either way, the flatter serve does not seem like this, or the 03 tour rackets' strong point. Very few people seem to be happy with the serving. Maybe the groundies and volleys shine enough for it to be worth it still...

    Then the debate becomes wether the first point of action in a game (the serve) is the most important aspect of the game. Hence, should one go for big serving rackets instead? And maybe ones actual height also plays a role. Maybe Michael Stich/Berdych would serve better with a low powered racket than lets say Agassi/Nadal would have. (tall player > small racket headsize - short players > larger racket headsize?) My kick serve is probably the best shot i have and i feel the tour would enhance that even further. The speedport black racket i own, definately gave me tons of power on the first serve, but it took some spin away on the second, even though my second had more power. The tour should definately have more control, that im sure of...so i suppose on can risk for more and thus have more confidence.
     
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    Well given that I like swing weight of around 335-345 I have to add lead to just about all rackets.

    Even the K90 I had to add about a gram at 12 to get it swinging just right.
     
  9. Power Player

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    These are good questions that I struggle with as well. The EXO is incredible on returns and gives you a shot at breaking serve anytime.

    Flat serves are not it's strength, it will take more effort to put heat on the ball, but the spin serves are great.

    Im a shorter player, but not sure what works better for me. I am hitting well with the EXO and the 6.1 95. They are a lot different in terms of feel, and serving with the 6.1 95 is far easier. The stiffness makes it very easy to get feel on the ball, but the EXO is currently more consistent to hit with. I just can not hit through people as easily as with the EXO, but I can use angles to get winners with.

    The 6.1 hits total bombs, but you have to be dialed in or you will overhit.

    I will say that the string setup I have in currently is not optimal for the Prince. The B5E is much too low powered to really deliver the goods in the EXO, but in the 6.1 95 it could be amazing.

    BTW, I am pretty sure Ferrer is using the Prince Shark still.
     
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    Yeah...know the feeling. My returns are also better than my first serve (except for with the black, which is really the only racket i could serve through opponents). With other rackets, my chances of acing with a kicker is almost just as good as with a flat serve. Groundstrokes with the black is just too hard to control though.

    On the serve, it would be nice having a real flat paced serve to mix things up. Opponents don't return well against me and i don't need a flat serve as much as i want one. I suppose the first volley would be more important for me to master, or putting away the weaker return.

    But i think the key on the first serve will be serving well paced slices wide, centre and into the body.

    I have a question:
    People have been commenting on videos of some peoples' serves on TW...
    They would say that the ball hits the back of the fence at a certain height, thus *probably* being a fast serve.

    My question is...surely taller people has a greater chance of this happening due to the angle of height that they hit the ball? Even though a shorter person may have the same pace, it may skid through lower? This is how i understand it....how do you see it?

    Ferrer:
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    Same racket i saw him play with this weekend...
     
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    Yeah he may be using the ozone, but I guess we can all see it is not the EXO tour regardless. I think he has switched a few times, and used the Shark before the Ozone. He also has a custom XL version, and that is interesting, since it should help on service power.

    As for serve pace, I rely on feedback from hitting partners more than anything. I had Badcall returning my serves with both sticks, and it was pretty obvious that I served better with the BLX.

    Uggh..but that being said, I need to play injury free, cut down on errors and finish my volleys off.

    The EXO is a more defensive style stick, and the best way for me to tell which is better is to play both in match play. I have so far had a little more success with the Wilson, and I barely know the stick, could be due to strings though.
     
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    My flats are ok with the Exo. In my tournament last weekend I played a 4.5 and a 5.0 the only games I won were the ones that I got all of my first flat serves in.
     
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    I have 3 sticks in the bag at the moment here., a ps 85, a yonex mid that once was pim pim johanssons and an exo3 tour.I can thump groundies and volleys beautifully woth the yonex, so solid like nothing else i've tried, the pro staff is more HL so easier to serve with esp as games go on, but i like where the exo3 experiment is going and for the first time in years after a league match (2 matches of 3 sets back to back) I can use my elbow the next day with the prince, that should tell me all really shouldnt itbut maybe some tweaking can make it feel like the other 2 a bit more.
    Hows the weather PP?
     
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    weather is awesome right now! Maybe unfairly good, but I think it is going to get colder this week.

    The EXO is great for saving your arm. It also made me a lot more consistent. I have really no complaints, but I am still getting it setup properly for how I hit.

    I feel a little better when I see other people with more than 1 stick in their bags ;)
     
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    Ross-

    Please keep us updated on your progress with the EXO Tour. I just dropped one of mine off at the stringer to be strung with a Lux Alu Power (mains- 53 lbs) and NXT Tour (crosses- 56 lbs) hybrid.

    Also have 1/4" lead tape on order and hopefully on the way. It's surprisingly hard to find 1/4" lead tape in NYC-- so I had to order it online.
     
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    Some noteworthy posts lately seem to indicate a few of us are in the same boat.

    For me the bottom line has to be b-line suitability - and as I've said earlier, I'm not sure the APD doesn't fit my requirements better. 1st serve oomph too (as mentioned by a few ppl) isn't outstanding, though imo it's more than adequate. Some ppl mention more all court aspects with the Exo, but for me personally, it isn't as good as my old N95s (something about the way 6.1s swing and the inherent solidness and massive ball) - not that I'm so all court these days.

    Anyhow, I'm playing twice later this week and will post up thoughts of Exo with the hybrid... and... ahem... I'm also looking at my APD with a full job of Cyclone.:roll:
     
  19. Power Player

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    I'd take the EXO over the apd though. It just is so much easier on the arm and much more solid. I can move the ball around with the EXO and hit so consistently that the BLX will really have to click with me for it to be more than a short term fling.
     
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    I don't have an EXO3 Tour, but I do love Prince racquets and currently use a lower model.

    105 head, 27" long, 300g weight. Actually I have two identical racquets, just with different overgrips on dependant on weather and humidity.

    They just have a lovely feel to them. Some racquets I tested felt slightly awkward in my hand, but this one (and an older model I had before) just felt like an extension of my arm.

    If I manage to see a higher end model with my spec I will seriously consider getting it. :)
     
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    Moved original comment to racquetaholics thread. Don't want to derail this thread too much. On another note. Loving the EXO so far Ebut have yet to find a set up I am completly happy with. Tour bite is up next.
     
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  22. Ross K

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    Absolutely agree on comfort aspect and Exo being great for moving opponent around. I mean, defensively, for scurrying around the bline over long points, this frame shines. I've definitely noticed some increase in rally duration and length.

    Can someone in the know please confirm precisely what frame Ferrer uses now. Bit confused... surely not a 03 Tour (as mentioned previously)?... Ozone?... a plus size? (That would interest me.)... Cheers
     
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    anyone else try Solnico Revolution on this frame? I'd never used it before but always loved Tour Bite. Didn't want to cross gut mains with TB though because of the edges, but yesterday I tried out Klip Legend 17 crossed with Revolution 17 (53/45). Man did it feel good. Soft AND crisp. It made the Klip feel like VS. Previously I've used WC Silverstring as my cross for Klip mains and while I do really like that combo, I think the revolution tops it.
     
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    I have heard a lot of people say how stiff it is, but apparently it is awesome in terms of spin.

    Still thinking Donald Young has figured it out with the full bed of TB in the EXO, but I have yet to try for myself.
     
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    i thought he was using a pro stock version of the ozone tour. it's painted to look like an exo3 tour though. and it's definitely extended length. 28 inches most likely but some folks are saying 29 inches. anyone have a good recent pic so we can count the string pattern?
     
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    Sounds like you got it as nailed as close as anybody knows. I am pretty sure he uses a 16x18 pattern, 28-29 length and the mold may or may not be flexed out to his specs.

    Cool thing about Prince is that a lot of their pros use frames with the same general feel as retail, they just may be modified to the Pro's needs.
     
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    Revolution stiff? I'd say the opposite. I keep one frame with VS mains and the other with Klip, the Klip has a much stiffer feel at the start than VS. So I like to cross it with a softer feeling poly. What struck me about Klip/Revolution is that at the start it made the Klip feel like VS.

    I do have a 3rd EXO3 Tour strung up with full Tour Bite for damp conditions. I hit with it for about an hour the other day on wet courts and it does still feel great, but not as good as the gut/poly frames.
     
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    Wow..interesting stuff. The EXO changes the feel of strings so much.

    I liked b5e/NVy a ton for comfort, but it is so insanely soft that you lose the ball feel. But if you need to rest your arm and still want spin and poly, it is awesome.
     
  29. Ross K

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    Must say, I'd love to check out an XL Exo Tour or something similar.
     
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    Hey All,

    I've been secret Lurkie Lou on this thread and, seems there is much ado about how to best lead it up. Looks like it has a very unique sweet spot, different even from the original O3 Tour. When I get mine, (I plan to add LOTS of lead) I'm going to start with adding at 10 & 2 or 3 & 9. That as we all know, will pull the sweet spot more to the outer edges. You'd have a sweet spot almost as big as the entire string bed, and the slippery EXO stuff (whatever that is) would be doing the job it was intended to do, which is allow the string to move when the ball is struck at the edges.

    - Jack

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    ^ Very interesting and thanks for the heads up. Explains why I prefer lead at 3&9.

    The only reason I can think of that might explain this discrepancy would be the head shape. This frame has some long mains in it and a very pronounced 'tear drop' form.
     
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    Alright this is strange.

    The sweet spot diagrams on TW university have the same shape to the 'power zone' for both the exo3t's but the ozone tour mp has a more traditional diagram. Ruling out my hypothesis on head shape. ChicagoJack had the o3TourMp.. Querry's frame.


    Can't be the flex either. Some frames that match the exo's sweet spot parameters are as follows (not seeing a pattern either)...
    -BLXBlade98
    -BLXBladeTour

    can't find any others either.....
     
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    wow really those are so different from the exo's
     
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    Hi Klementine :)

    Yeah cool, that's interesting as well. Good catch, that the two Wilsons have a similar sweet spot shape (noting that the BLX blade tour is a 93) And I'm not seeing a pattern either. I had figured the shape had something to do with the magic (giggle) slippery EXO material doing its thing, but apparently it's something else. Ehh... I'm content not knowing why I guess, but does give me a clue as to where to lead it up once I get one. Man these things are sweet! Never ever played a Prince frame, but this was like love at first hit, so to speak.

    -Jack
     
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    Frames now back from stringer. So... going in tomorrow with the Exo (w/Beast and NVy @ 52/57) V APD (Cyclone @ 52)... it could be nasty out there.:)
     
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    Well guys it has been a fun ride but I must now say goodbye to the tours. For the past two weeks I have been playing with the exo3 black and I love it. I hope everyone the best.
     
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    Can you tell us what you like better about the black? More powerful, more stable, etc.?

    thanks,
     
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    X 2 on this. I don't know about the black, so am curious.
     
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    Is this the typical life cycle of racket threads? Interest and discovery, then passionate following, and now where we are at now with abandonment starting?
     
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    LOL. not for me. EXO3 Tour is the best fit for me of any frame I've played. I'm sticking with it!
     
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    Wasn't aware many people are abandoning it.
     
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    It's the Circle of Life! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc

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    NIGHT AND DAY!! I was on the TW Prince playtest and received EXO Black 100 to test out and found it to be very stiff and unstable whereas the EXO Tour is plush/flexy and with just a "tad" of lead is stable for me. I will say the EXO Black has a cool paintjob with the matte finish--but otherwise a 70+ RDC frame is just toooo stiff for me.
     
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    Kcraig,

    I'm sure you've already posted it earlier in this thread but I can't remember off the top of my head-- what's your preferred lead set-up on the Tour?

    Thx
     
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    Yeah, the Black is not what Prince is about to me. Prince is about flex, ball control and the ability to defend the entire court and set up winners.

    The Black is more like a babolat for rec players who need help with power, or a stiff attacking racquet for pro level players who can control it and signed a prince contract.
     
  46. Kcraig

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    I have about 2.5g at 3.5-9.5 area. Still loving the frame--jst tinkering wtih string setups. I'm coming up from the Prince Diablo MP so not a huge transistion. Only took about an hour to get used to feel/sound. Love it:)
     
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    Cyberflash, an old school poly (goldlike IMO) still feels soft in this stick..it's crazy..lol.
     
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    Unfortunately I still have a "sensitive":oops: arm and have to go with a "ladies" setup--full MULTI. Used the new/update Thunderblast last night and it was really nice! Temps are getting cold here--was 40* when finished at 9pm!!!
     
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    I have the same setup in my backup and it actually is a nice match since it is a crisper multi.

    I like how multis enhance the feel of the flex in the EXO. You can also string them tight, which IMO brings out more of the racquet.
     

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