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  1. tmc5005

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    Prince EXO3 Rebel (95) + Prince EXO3 Tour (100) 16 x 18

    Prince EXO3 Rebel (95) + Prince EXO3 Tour (100) 16 x 18 are both great racquets not only for the way they play but they have all the characteristics of arm-friendly racquets. They are both listed as top 10 in http://tenniselbowracquet.com/tennis-racquets.
    The Prince EXO3 Rebel (95) has a RDC flex of 58 its strung weight is 12.1oz and its balance is -10HL The Prince Tour 100 16x 18 has a RDC flex of 54 its strung weight is 11.4oz and its balance is -6HL
     
  2. Jocke

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    Regarding lead at 3, 9. I definitely find the racket unstable/wobbly stock. A little lead at 3, 9 really helps. The problem for me is SW. Mine swings 330+ without lead (natural gut, 16 g) and I prefer SW around 325. One of my previous EXO3 Tours had a SW of 341 unleaded…not very maneuverable in my opinion.
     
  3. G-12

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    Agreed. The Prince EXO3 Rebel 95 and the Prince EXO3 Tour are both arm friendly but it seems the Rebel 95 is more suited for competetive players who are seeking an arm friendly stick while the EXO3 Tour seems to be more oriented for a wider skill level set of players. The flex of the racquets could also be this determining factor because the Rebel 95 seems more of a solid racquet, in terms of impact upon ball while the EXO3 seems more of a soft, counter puncher stick, not necessarily as solid but not necessarily as soft.
     
  4. mikeler

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    I definitely play more of a defensive or counter punching style with the Exo Tour. I'm hoping one day I get the confidence to really hit out with it.
     
  5. Dags

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    I had an outing with 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9. I already have a leather grip on there, so we're still talking a pretty headlight balance.

    Does it make a difference? Yes, but depending what you're after, it might not be worth it. The biggest improvement was that it gave visibly more zip to the flat serve. My 1hbh was slightly more stable, but not by huge amounts. The more I'm conscious of it, the more I think this is linked to the large head size. My forehand, which was the shining light of this stick, went down a notch.

    I've rather ruined myself by playing with the TGK's again. The Prince just feels so tinny in comparison. I'm mentally fragile at the best of times, and I don't think I'll recover from this: I'm probably done with them. More alarming is that I'm starting to think about how I'd hit a backhand with a 93 sqin or below head, when I'm really not good enough to wield such a bat...
     
  6. mikeler

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    I played today with the lead tape off but the leather still on. I was switching back and forth with a Resi Pro replacement grip with no issues.
     
  7. mrtrinh

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    Sorry if this was mentioned before but does anyone know if they're coming out with an updated exo3 tour 100? I'm debating whether to buy the current one or wait if they're going to release an updates model.
     
  8. mikeler

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    From what I've read, the new Exos will be even more open patterned.
     
  9. mrtrinh

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    I've read that too, ESP, similar to the new 99s coming out. Any word if an updated 16x18 pattern comin out or is it just new additions to the current line?
     
  10. mikeler

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    No clue, but next year should be interesting.
     
  11. corbind

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    Mike, do you have a link to where you read it so the rest of us can check it out?
     
  12. mikeler

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    I don't remember where I read it. Just Google Exo Tour ESP and you'll probably find some info on it.
     
  13. TroutSc

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    What do we think of the tour with a tour bite / vanquish combo?

    Also, glad to find this thread.

    My background post:
    Is there a mother of all threads for prince exo3 Tour 100?
    Ive been searching but 'tour' is fairly common for a search term.

    I played all morning using a new apd and a volkl pb7. elbow is getting sore, so I went as soft as I could think and grabbed a TOUR 100, then played a match with it. No pain. felt good. Im thinking I should just use it and build my game with it and not worry anymore about elbows.
    Any thread links or any other general input/opinions would be appreciated.
     
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  14. klementine

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    ^This is THE thread for the exo3T.

    Haven't tried the tb/vanquish combo. Have tried vanquish mains/4g crosses and full beds of tb in the exo.

    Should be a good match-up in the exo, for these reasons. Vanquish loses tension very quickly, can be exacerbated in a frame as soft as the exo, so it feels very soft (almost too mushy) after the 2hr. mark.

    TourBite, no matter how much tension it loses, still feels stiffer than anything I've tried. Ends up losing a lot of feel/life but is still harsh.

    I'm thinking the two will compliment themselves nicely. Can see the TourBite just sawing through the Vanquish very quickly, especially if you've got the 16x18 tour100.
     
  15. pelusi

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    what your favorite string for the 16x18 pattern????
     
  16. klementine

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    ^Full BBO at 50lbs.
     
  17. TroutSc

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    Hit again very shortly with the demo. Love the amazing comfort, struggling to find the right face on forehand, feel like im too open and going too long. Im going to keep trying it as I plan to make the switch and make it work...i really want to make it work and have no elbow worries.
     
  18. TennisMonty

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    I have the 18x20, does anybody know when the new prince rackets will come out?
     
  19. klementine

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    It's funky on the forehand side, due to the head-shape and flex. Takes a while to dial it in. Really got to extend a little less and find the timing. Nice thing is the sweet spot is huge.
     
  20. mikeler

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    I've got about 3 months on this frame and I'm still having trouble dialing in my forehand.


    Weird thing is that my forehand was best in the demo I used that had Wilson Sensation in it. I did not like the string too much for any other shots though...
     
  21. TroutSc

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    Backhand side feels great. I seem to be sailing forehands, for some reason I tend to open up with my wrist or something odd. when I get it right, its beautiful, otherwise im way long. Im going to try 2 grams at 12 as well. I have the demo until wednesday and have high hopes of making it work.
     
  22. mikeler

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    I can hit backhands in all day with this frame. It just seems like when I try and flatten the ball out on my forehand side most of the time it sails long like you said.
     
  23. TroutSc

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    exactly...but its a dream on my elbow, even with hybrid. Im gonna add few grams and try to figure out what im doing with my forehand later today.
     
  24. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I bought one recently from a friend that had a leather grip and lead. I did not care for it with the extra weight.
     
  25. TroutSc

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    Hit with 2 grams @ noon, I liked it better. forehand felt better, think I can get in tune with it. Im going to have my demo strung with a multi/TB and see how that works.

    TB mains at about 55 and x's of vanquish @ 58 sound like a good start?

    Also, the grip feels a bit smaller than my volkls/bab. Is this just how the prince pallet is?
     
  26. klementine

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    ^Oh yeah, the prince 3/8s pallets feel like a full 1/4grip in wilson/bab/head etc. Wait until the syn.grip compresses some. I just wrap 2 tournas and they even out.

    String set-up sounds great. Share your thoughts on it whenever you get some hours logged in.


    Strange. Syngut has many mysterious powers. It can also react strange in different temperatures and varying %s of humidity and altitude changes. It's the original.
     
  27. TroutSc

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    ^ Thanks! Ill see if they can string it up tomorrow and hopefully hit with it. Im really close to pulling the trigger, Ive got the wifes "buy-in", she said if I can use it and stop being a baby about my elbow and keep up with her, then go for it. (shes been patient considering Ive bought an APDgt, a bb london, and 3 pb7's).

    wheres all the other tour users? Ive read through alot of posts, but noticed many sig changes. Im hoping to dial one in and stick with it through spring/summer+ and not deal with elbow pain.
     
  28. mikeler

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    The one I bought from a friend had Babolat synthetic gut in it. I took a few hits with it and said "I'm cutting this crap out". I'm so used to multis now that mono nylons just don't cut it. My forehand issues now are mainly due to some minor wrist soreness.


    I've been dealing with arm issues on and off the last several years. The Exo Tour is not my favorite racket but it is the most comfortable I've tried. I'll take comfort over how much I like a racket with my 40th birthday almost here.
     
  29. saltair

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    I will be 40 this year as well and picked up two 18x20's last March. Unbelievably comfy but coming from the prestige mid it took a good bit of getting used to.

    And I honestly just thought that there would be some sacrifices that would be made in the name of comfort. For 8 months I felt that it was lacking in one way or another.

    However in the last six weeks or so the Exo has really clicked for me. Playing some great tennis with them now and not at all wishing for the racket to be other than it is. I have no idea why it took so long for it to click for me, but glad I waited it out.
     
  30. TroutSc

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    So ferrer/davydenko are playing now on ten Chan. What's davydenko playing with?
     
  31. klementine

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    ^They're both playing with the previous models of the Tour100. The ozone tour ( 16x18 ) for Ferrer and Davydenko with the ozone pro tour (18x20 version).

    I know Ferrer's is fairly light (330sh) and extended ( ~28in) with a hefty swing weight.

    Davydenko also plays with a light stick (considerably lighter than Ferrer's) but more HH. Not sure if it's extended.

    I was going to purchase some pro stock versions of the ozone tour a while back and remember that they were available in 55ra, 60ra and 65ra. They're lay-ups could be similar but don't know.
     
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  32. tata

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    I made a switch to the diablo mid but came back to the exo tour 18x20. The diablo was just giving me wrist issues on and off. This time I've leaded it up the exo and will pray that i don't need to go to the extremes of a racquet change.
     
  33. mikeler

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    I think eventually this racket will totally click for me. The frame has such a different feeling to it than anything else I've hit with.


    I recently got a minor wrist issue with the Exo Tour. It was just a one time thing on a forehand. Bad form on my part for 1 shot and I'm still paying for it weeks later.
     
  34. maggmaster

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    That happens to me from time to time too Mikeler. I am not sure what about this racket causes that.
     
  35. USS Tang

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    Can I be in the Club? I play with the EXO3 Red 105. Only differences I see are length (27.25 in.), head-size (105 sq. in.), 16 x 19, and slightly fewer grams in weight. I bet it plays pretty much like the EXO3 Tour 100.
     
  36. maggmaster

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    The stiffness is way different no?
     
  37. USS Tang

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    Red 105 has stiffness of 63. Tour 100 has 52. Is that significant? Does it mean that the former is stiffer than the latter?
     
  38. mikeler

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    That is a considerable difference in stiffness. The lower the number the more flex the racket has.
     
  39. TroutSc

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    before I pull the trigger, is there anything else out there that is nearly as arm friendly as the tour? Something that can also take a poly hybrid and remain arm friendly like the tour?

    also, plan to go with TB/vanquish on a purchase to start with, but am really wondering how a full TB would play/feel???
     
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  40. mikeler

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    Exo Tour is the softest frame I've ever used.
     
  41. lefty10spro

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    The entire line carries over, with the new sticks due out in early summer I believe.
     
  42. uscmba02

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    I'm in. Coming from the Rebel 98 to Tour 100 16x18. So far, couldn't be happier.

    One is strung with VS / PHT at 58 / 54 and the other with champions choice gut mains at 58 /54. Both set ups are great but I think I like the VS / PHT a little more.

    I had some elbow issues developing and I played 8 sets Tuesday trading out Tours each set and I had zero issues the next day.
     
  43. TroutSc

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    takin the demo back today...tried lead, no lead and TB/vanquish. Put it down after first set and grabbed my volkl pb7.

    still searchin...
     
  44. mrtrinh

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    Had the same experience. Great spin production but I felt like I wasn't able to play offensively. Its a stick you cannot be lazy with either
     
  45. mikeler

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    That is my knock against this racket. I tend to extend points longer with it. It seems like I have more forced errors than winners versus other rackets.
     
  46. tata

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    I think player that likes to play with spin and consistency and long points will prefer the tour. Without lead, there just isn't enough penetration for me. Balls sit up and get punished.
     
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    How does the revel 98 stack up to the tour? I was really interested in getting one at one point. The review suggested a well rounded frame and was stable for a light weight. My groundstrokes and return of serve suffer noticebly from the lack of stability in stock form.
     
  48. mikeler

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    So I bought a used Exo Tour 16x18 last month. I took the lead tape off it and replaced the leather grip on it with the stock replacement grip. It still does not feel right, it is too heavy in the handle. Has anyone added or removed weight from the handle? If so, any tips on opening it up and peeking in there?
     
  49. corbind

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    I think you'd hate using mine ;) I prefer more weight on them everywhere. The EXO frames are too unstable at the stock 11.6 oz and not enough plow. Have you weighed and balanced the racquet so you can gauge how the one you bought compares to the stock 11.6oz / 7HL?
     
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    No, I don't have a balance board or scale. I don't seem to have stability problems at the stock weight plus I like the racket whippy.

    Anybody have any tips on how to take off the butt cap so I can take a look in there?
     

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