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  1. lefty10spro

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    My daughter who plays D1 college weights her 16x18s w/6g at 9 and 3 and another 6g above the cap. She strings mains w/Volkl gut (klip made) and crosses w/Recoil both at 54 lbs. I am not man enough to play with this so I opt for the Tour Team!
     
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    Anyone have an idea ? Who has hit both? Thanks mike
     
  3. bad_call

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    PP had both sticks strung with BHSilver/N.Vy which played very nice but think it might do better with B5E/N.Vy (at least for this player). obviously spin is easy but also has ability to switch on attack mode. serves were bombing as well. recommend giving this one a demo.
     
  4. TheOneHander

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    Well thank you! I really do enjoy playing with the string, although my only complaint is that I wish it would last just a couple hours longer. Thankfully, the price lets me restring pretty frequently, do it's not that big of a deal. Another reason I use it is because the only other shaped poly I have at the moment is TB17 and I only have one pack left :oops: But how many hours do you get out of a bed of ALU?

    I think Savage is comparable to BHBR, but with a less lively and more controlled feel. It's a little bit deader on impact but at the same tension in the same racquet the control is noticeably higher. I need to try another bed of it though, I'm almost out of my BHBR reel so I'm on the hunt for new strings. How often do you restring?

    The thing about the White and the Tour is that they're completely different racquets spec-wise. The White is lighter and stiffer with a more even balance, while the Tour has a distinctly head-light balance with added weight and a ridiculously low flex. TW has reviews on both of these sticks, check them out!
     
  5. NYCtennis1

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    About 15 hours give or take of solid play with my ALU, then I get my other frame strung w/ a fresh bed and use the fading ALU when I'm just hitting for 5 hours till it goes completely dead on me. I'm trying to find ways to pick up cheap ALU sets or reels but it's not going so well. So if BHBR gives me 12 hrs or more I might consider switching.
     
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    As Badcall said we spent 3 hours hitting and he got a lot of time with my EXO. We both took all lead off the racquet and were fine with it stock.

    I am going to try a gram or 2 at 12 one more time. The racquet swings so light that I think I want to try it a little more head heavy. When I have the balance right, I come through the slot consistently. If the stick is too head light, sometimes I get a little wild and my wrist takes over too much.

    Anyway, the more we hit, the more power I was getting out of the racquet at stock weight. So for me, I am not sure if the lead will work out or not, but I will give it one more go at 12 just to see.

    I do intend to try the B5E/nvy setup. I want a little more control than what I am currently getting. I was sailing a lot of forehands, but some of that is just on me. Regardless, I will give the B5e a run and see if it offers more control.

    The secret for me is to play relaxed and not overswing. The EXO is the most rewarding stick I have used for this. If you get your swing relaxed, you will hit bombs.
     
  7. jaybear1909

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    Try 2g at 3, 2g at 9 and 4g above grip on handle. Feels amazing!
     
  8. Kcraig

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    As noted in another thread, the EXO is very suspectable to paint chips. One of my primary frames i"ve had for a month looks like it's 2 yrs old!! Still a great playing all around frame--super comfy and excellent control with pop on hand!! Thing 3-5g lead at 3/9ish is the ticket to stability and pop.
     
  9. Ross K

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    Yes, I see what you're saying, Meags. Not quite sure yet how I'll change it up (if at all), but it will indeed be in small fractional amounts. BTW I dropped off my Exo Tour and an 03 Tour to the stringers yesterday. With only the one Exo, my thinking is I can experiment with mods, practice etc on the 03 Tour. The frames are obviously similarish.

    mikeler, you can add my name as well.:)
     
  10. Power Player

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    Ross, its funny I went back to lead at 12, but 2 grams, and just 2 inch strips. I am not sure how it will play (stinking rain today), but I can say that the stock weight was rather nice as well. Just very light, so it's easy to swing too aggressive and make mistakes.
     
  11. mikeler

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    You are probably just slow and have to swipe at all your shots. :)
     
  12. Ross K

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    That is my exact lead set up, PP. I found very good serve pop. I also thought at times it was a tad slow to maneuver. However, I'm fairly certain I could get used to it - I mean, we're not talking major sluggish here. That said, I would like to get slightly better dialed in depth-wise on my groundies.
     
  13. Power Player

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    Ross you my end up loving the stick stock. I like it stock, but I may need to slow myself down a little, and am thinking the 2 grams can help. If not, it is really just about a nice loose and relaxed swing. I finally started cracking forehands again after a while yesterday. I had been hitting like crap from that side for weeks, but it was my form and not the racquet.

    The EXO is very rewarding to you when you play with nice relaxed swings.

    Ironically my backhand has never been better. I can hit it nice and hard now and place it wherever i want.
     
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    What's the bag everyone's rocking with their Exo Tours? Looked up some stuff online and keep seeing the green, black bag (which btw is very similar to what I remember owning some years back) is what Tour users are meant to go for... unless I've got this wrong?... is there not a mainly black, orange bag though?:confused:
     
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    I have the Dunlop 4D 6 pack bag still. Amazing bag that color matches the EXO perfectly. A sign? Who knows..regardless, amazing bag and matches the sticks perfectly.
     
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  16. NYCtennis1

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    Yeah the Black/Orange tour team bag is meant for the exo tours, I've seen Querrey and Ferrer rocking it. As for me I chose the green since I got a great deal on the 12 pack through the classifieds:)
     
  17. Kcraig

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    No "probably" to it:cry:
     
  18. bad_call

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    and i've got an older edition Prince bag for my Dunlops...:)
     
  19. bad_call

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    Kcraig - are you still using B5E hybrid? and if so what tension have you settled upon? i'm thinking 53/57 or so. have that in a Diablo mid and it's working.
     
  20. Kcraig

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    Actually been using full multi, yes i said it, full multi (NXT @ 55#). Really trying to "be smart" and finally get over the GE once and for all. With the cooler temps moving in, no reason for me to use poly. Ironically, the full NXT and even full Xcel provide tons of spin, control and of course pop. IF i were to use poly, i can only imagine how good B5E/MCS would do in this frame--and I would prolly go with 48/52 on tension as the flexy frame and low tension seem to provide an unreal "ball pocketing" feel which i love. On PP's suggestion, I have my EXO"s set up with 3g to 3.5/9.5 positions and have not looked back. Total strung/static weight is 336g---perfect for me.
    Also glad to report that after 6+ sets yesterday/today I have ZERO elbow discomfort at all. Just a plush/pillowy frame.

    ROSS--as per bag, an opponent of mine today had the "green" Prince tour 6 pk bag and it looked SHARP!! That is the one I have my eye on:) to replace my Adidas Barricade 6 pack bag
     
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  21. skeeter

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    I've been using VS gut/WCSS (57/53) on my 18x20 for about 2 months now and really enjoying the feel, comfort, subtle power, and control with this set up. Might experiment around with some other soft ploys (any suggestions?). Anyone else using a gut/poly hybrid on this stick?

    By the way, not sure I'm on the list yet, so tack me on!
     
  22. Ross K

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    EXoheads!

    Cheers for lowdown on bags. I'll look into it. Not sure quite what is available in UK.
     
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    The black/orange bag was a 'limited" edition I think. Ferrer did use it, but he's back to green/black. I also use the 6-pack green/black.
     
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    The Great Bag Debate.

    Yeah, seems many Exo Tour uses are going with the green and black. Slightly doesn't make sense to me as the Exo 100 is of course black and orange. Anyhow, I wish this option was more readilly available in the UK (seems hard to find black/orange colourway bags or whatever here.) The green and black just makes me think of the old NXG frames. As I said, I used to have one (green/black bag) years ago with my first ever racs (Triple Threat frames.)

    It would be cool if Prince could get a black/orange colourway bag that was WIDELY AVAILABLE and was up their in the design stakes with the great Reb 95 Monfils bag of a few years ago - that one had a bit of a, I don't know, modern 'street' vibe about it that I thought was bang on the money.
     
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    I agree with ross, if I got a Prince bag, I'd definitely want the Black and Orange one.

    The bags actually look awesome feature wise. I would love a shoe pocket and extra space like that. I'll probably still stick with my Dunlop, which is a fine bag, but it's a little more basic.
     
  27. jk175d

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    of course! on 16x18 for me though. I use VS 17g/ MSV Co-focus 1.18 at 54/45 on one, and Klip Legend 17g/ WCSS 17g at 53/45 on the other. I love the VS right away and up until it breaks, but the Klip lasts for much much longer. Maybe 3 or 4x longer. Once the klip has settled in it feels almost as good as the VS. WCSS is a good cross for the clip since its a softer feeling poly. Co-focus makes for a crisper feel so it's good with the plusher VS. But the co-focus also cuts through the VS faster than WCSS would. String savers have helped a bit. Got about 3 weeks instead of just one without them. The Klip is going on 6 weeks now and I've already swapped out the cross once. No signs of imminent breakage yet.
     
  28. skeeter

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    The Klip sounds interesting; may have to try that one out. That's quite a spread between tensions with your mains/crosses. What do you like about the crosses being so low?
     
  29. TheOneHander

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    Not to derail the string discussion, but I just tried a full bed of BHBR 17 at 30/28 just for laughs. I didn't get to hit with it much, but the pocketing is just unreal. Spin is about the same as my normal setup, but there's definitely more pop. The only place I could see that being an issue is on the defensive, where I find the Tour's power level to be more than sufficient. All in all, though, the higher control and more "bite-y" feeling of the higher tensions was what I preferred.
     
  30. Power Player

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    Day 1 of 2 grams of lead at 12 ( done with 2 2 inch strips layered on each side) is a success.

    I am actually amazed at what a small amount of lead did do the stick. Lots more plow and control. I was finally painting lines again with my forehand and getting inside out winners. And this was with an aging string job. When I get the b5e/ n vy in this week, I could possibly have achieved nirvana.

    Stick weighs 11.9 with samp damp and OG. I would guess the swingweight is 330ish at most.

    This setup will ruin cortexes stranglehold on baseline bashers throughout the universe.

    It easily hits as big as the APDC, but with heavier spin and insane comfort.

    Give me a few more sessions, but this setup really helped keep me in the slot and hit clean and heavy balls with much more accuracy.
     
  31. bad_call

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    good to read that the exo3 is dialed in for competitive play. i'm getting jealous...
     
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    Count me in please :)

    Loving it more and more each day!
     
  33. NYCtennis1

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    PP, what's the SW and balance on your new setup? Also just wondering if you counter weight your sticks?
     
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    Weight is 11.9, SW is around 329-330.

    I would guess balance is 5-6 pts HL. I do not counterbalance because I really like this stick a little more head heavy. It comes through the air so fast stock. I can still use it stock, but the 2 grams at 12 just keeps my swing a little slower and relaxed, plus the power and spin increase is awesome.
     
  35. NYCtennis1

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    I have yet to try any lead at 12 so maybe that will be my next venture with my frames. I'm loving my 3 and 9 plus countered setup, the frame is now as stable as my beloved AeroStorms. But echoing you it comes through the air faster than any other racquet I've hit with (lead or no lead) It truly is fun to have a frame that takes lead so easily, before my Exo's I always played my frames in stock.
     
  36. Power Player

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    If you hit flatter, I think 3 and 9 is the way to go. If you are more of a topspin player, take 4 1/4 lead strips cut to 2 inches and layer 2 on each side right at 12.

    I was pretty wiped out tonight and hit far better than I have in a while. It could definitely be some of the work I was doing with BCall Saturday as well, but the lead just adds some serious pop to the stick while keeping me in my swing path. As a result, I also get more topspin.
     
  37. jk175d

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    the reason I like the cross low is that's where I like poly. In a gut/poly hybrid I want to have the gut be the dominant force, the poly cross just serves sort of as a stabilizer. If I had the poly at say 50, it would diminish what I feel from the gut mains, and it would do less towards providing the control that poly in the mid-upper 40s allows when swinging freely. I've talked about this in other threads, someone else asked a Prince tech about the spread and was told it wasn't a problem.
     
  38. NYCtennis1

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    I really can't consider myself either or, I hit with tons of top from behind the baseline but I go flatter alot more now even in exchanges from the back. When demoing I was leaning 18 x 20 from the start but something about this frame and the open pattern seems so right for me. I feel I have my holy grail setup now but as I keep reading this thread I am tempted to go back to my local shop and pick another few packs of lead:)
     
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    I honestly can not wait to see how the b5E in the mains does because my tension i low and strings are dead and I was still hitting much better than the past few weeks. The lead plus proper string job should give me that punishing heavy ball but also improve my control.
     
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    Interesting PP, and not least as we share the same lead set up presently.

    I found with my first match (with frame still factory strung or whatever) that my serve pop was surprisingly good. There I was expecting something C10 Pro-ish and instead found a lot of sting and pace to accompany the spin. Secondly though, I thought I found it a tad slower on close in reaction stuff (not free-swinging g/strokes.) But lastly - and most importantly - I was a tad lacking in depth consistency.

    This final aspect is a crucial area for me - along with serve pop. Hence some thinking has been called for on my part, as I must have that regular depth, as well serve MPH. So, what I've decided is just to await the new string job (TB @ 52s), keep it modded the same, and see how I fare with that.

    Tempting to tinker around though as the frame seems to like lead!
     
  41. Dave M

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    No R don't alter it at all untill after you've tried the new strings (or your usual strings?) this is a really nice frame, take your time it's the first 100" frame i can comfortably hit my one handed backhand with, so pleased about that!
     
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    I gave Bad_Call a half set of Thunder Blast for the crosses. It is a stiffer multi that I think you should try one of these days.
     
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    http://www.princetennis.com/tennis/files/category.aspx?cid=457

    They did do a version of those sold at wimbledon with the flying "w" on them a couple of years ago.I can only see the newer ones on the wimbledon site which are green but they appear on the bay sometimes.
    Maybe the above will be stocked somewhere over here for a reasonable price soon.
     
  44. skeeter

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    PP, didn't you at one time have some lead at 3/9 as well as at 12? I'm more of a flatter hitter (and currently have 2 grams at 3 and 9; like the increased stability it provides) but also apply some decent topspin on certain shots. Looking for a tad more plow-through so thought maybe adding a gram or two at 12, in addition to the 3/9, might be helpful.
     
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    Skeeter, never had lead at 3 spots.

    Last time I did lead at 12, my wrist was still healing, and the strips were 4 inch ones, just 1 layer.

    The 2 inch strips layered seems to be the way to go for placement at 12.
     
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    Thanks, PP. Anyone else using lead at 12 AND 3/9? Thoughts?
     
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    The stability with lead at 3/9 is just amazing. I assume it will feel so much better with my preferred strings. The strings right now are too tight at 56 lbs. Thinking of BHBR at 40/37. Will let you all know how it feels by then! Also, I don't know why all of you are panicking about bags, I'd rather just use my old one with multiple racquets, it's not like I'm sponsored or anything.. Just putting that up there.
     
  48. TheOneHander

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    skeeter,

    Here's an old post of mine on the lead setups. I really liked the stability of the 3/9 setup, but missed the whippiness the racquet had stock, so I'm out to try it again with 2g in the handle for counterweights.

    AceServer,

    I just tried low tensions myself, albeit a good bit lower than what you use. The feel of the stringbed deforming is phenomenal, I think you'll enjoy it.

    Regarding the bags, I must say that I really like the look of the Tour Team 12 in green, but the wife is making me wait until Christmas :( Until then, it's my 2007 Babolat Team Line 12.
     
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    ^ Agreed.

    Low tensions feel great... and super comfy in this frame. Especially polys.

    Besides, the higher you string 'em... the faster they lose their tension and magic.

    50 and below.... nice. 45 and below.... very,very nice. I enjoyed the stiffer 'classics' at low-low tensions... 45 or below BigBangerOriginal and Hurricane.

    M2Pro and RPM felt great at 50. As they are softer.

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    On an off topic... is anyone sanding their stringbed?

    I actually quite like it. I'll take a fine-grit piece of sandpaper and lightly brush the string bed.

    It gives the usable surface area a textured profile... but it leaves the areas where the mains and crosses make contact unchanged... so they still slide better against one another... as opposed to true textured strings ... which is an attribute that I usually frown upon.
     
  50. Ross K

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    Dave, all,

    No, I'm keeping it with 2g lead @ 12. Got some b-line drilling in yesterday and starting to get grooved. Looking forward to match in a few days and new TB string job... 'Exo-llent, dudes!':)
     

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