Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by tipsa...don'tlikehim!, Aug 15, 2014.
Since the other thread is biased (including Del Potro in the poll and not Ferrer), please make this thread the official thread for the US open.
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The odds right now
Novak Djokovic 2.300
Rafael Nadal 7.590
Andy Murray 5.060
Roger Federer 8.160
Stan Wawrinka 18.460
Grigor Dimitrov 18.460
Juan Martin Del Potro 142.320
Milos Raonic 29.330
Tomas Berdych 73.880
Kei Nishikori 98.870
Nick Kyrgios 152.860
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 31.130
David Ferrer 115.170
Jerzy Janowicz 299.890
Ernests Gulbis 90.710
John Isner 202.090
Richard Gasquet 327.040
Marin Cilic 137.690
Bernard Tomic 327.040
Alexandr Dolgopolov 408.520
Gael Monfils 218.380
If Nadal is healthy and has time to train then him. He'll be smelling blood the way Djokovic played in Toronto/Cincy.
If he's hurt or can't train then I think there's a good spread of people who can grab it. I'd say Tsonga/Wawrinka/Murray are next and then people like Raonic/Dimitrov/Ferrer/Berdych.
I don't see Federer or Djokovic winning. Federer's lack of coordination/stamina is too much of an issue for him. Djokovic's head is elsewhere. His head is in clouds right now and doesn't care about tennis the way he used to.
i must say Djokovic is the big question mark here. I would still favour him though, regarding the opposition, i agree about Federer his chances to win a grand slam outside Wimbledon are slim.
I like Murray if like said above he can play short matches and save energy for the QF and so on.
interesting grand slam for sure :twisted:
I think old Julian is either going to make the last 16 or the Quarters of the US Open
I voted for Federer though I wouldn't bet against Djokovic or even Nadal.
Didn't include Del Potro in the poll (I hope no one minds ) since he's not playing.
Nadal no one knows today.
By Stephanie Myles
Juan Martín del Potro out of U.S. Open; Rafael Nadal postpones decision
The villain is the same: the wrist on the off-hand.
It means right-hander Juan Martín del Potro of Argentina, who was targeting a return at the U.S. Open after undergoing surgery on his left wrist March 24, won't be there after all.
It could mean that left-hander Rafael Nadal, who injured his right wrist during practice a few days before the Rogers Cup in Toronto last week and also is absent in Cincinnati this week, might miss it as well.
In Nadal's case, he has had a splint on the hand since the injury occurred July 30. He was to announce his decision on whether he would compete in New York on Friday.
Public-relations manager Benito Perez-Barbadillo made this announcement on Twitter:
Decision on US Open participation for @RafaelNadal postponed till early next week. No decision today or tomorrow.
Del Potro hasn't played since the tournament in Dubai in late February, when he retired in the second set of his first-round match against Somdev Devvarman of India. He returned to the court at the end of May, but without testing the surgically-repaired right wrist. He only hit his first backhands on July 24.
After his own injury, Nadal immediately began wearing a splint on the right wrist but continued to work on court, albeit with only his left arm.
It's impossible to read anything into the world No. 2's decision to postpone, either positively or negatively. History dictates that Nadal is unlikely to play unless he feels he can compete at 100 per cent.
For del Potro, it's another U.S. Open missed. For several years after his surprising run to the title at the U.S. Open in 2009, the Argentine was the only player outside the "top four" of Djokovic, Nadal, Federer and Murray to win a major. He stopped being a solo act only when Stan Wawrinka of Switzerland won the Australian Open this year.
Great things were expected; he was just 20 when he won in New York. The aftermath of that breakthrough Grand Slam victory has been a physical challenge.
After losing in the fourth round of the 2010 Australian Open, del Potro didn't play again until a couple of matches in Asia in the fall, after undergoing surgery on his right wrist on May 4. He missed the opportunity to defend his U.S. Open title. By the end of the 2011 Australian Open, his ranking had fallen to No. 484 because of the time away and he had to make the long climb back.
He earned the ATP Tour's comeback player of the year award in 2011. A semi-final effort in the Dubai event in Feb. 2012 finally brought him back to the top 10.
Del Potro was only at somewhat full health for two years before recurring pain in his other wrist led him to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. last January. He played one doubles match at Indian Wells in March to test out the effects of therapy, and had the surgery a few weeks later.
This week, he dropped out of the top 10 for the first time since May, 2012. But del Potro has only second-round points to defend in New York, so the postponement of his return shouldn't hurt his ranking too badly in the short term.
He does have 1,600 ranking points to defend in the fall, after titles in Basel and Tokyo and a final at the Masters 1000 in Shanghai a year ago.
Nadal went on a 17-match blitz through Canada, Cincinnati and the U.S. Open a year ago, winning all three. He already has failed to defend 2,000 points earned in the first two events; missing the U.S. Open would add 2,000 more to that total.
Why were a bunch of posts deleted in this thread? I am still trying to figure out which posts get deleted.... Calling other members derogatory names seems to be okay with the mods, mostly... What happened here since yesterday? lol
Does anyone know when Nadal will make his announcement about whether he'll play or not? I thought it was supposed to be today.
EDIT: Just read the above post by tipsa.
always the same trolls who like to feel important here. Glad the mods deleted the trolling always coming from the same people.
Anyway, votes allowed until 27th august, not gonna vote before the first monday, hard to predict for now even if i 'd probably favour Djokovic.
Yes, at this stage its hard to be confident for Nadal, i'm not sure it would make a big difference if he plays anyway :-?
I would have to go with Djokovic to win this Grand Slam, with Federer as my second favourite.
If Rafa is out, Fed will take over 2. He only has to make up 4th round points, and he's on a roll this year.
which could make some funny draws next year like we had in early 2013
Yes. If he's still wearing the splint that can't be good. That said, if they're delaying the decision it could be a positive because if he knew he wouldn't be able to play they probably would've just announced it by now. It's like the article says. It could be a positive or a negative.
thanks, seems I've missed the fun. lol
Do we have it confirmed that Kei is playing?
no fun really, just a clown with a goat as an avatar complaining that i included Ferrer / Berdych in the poll but not Del Potro
Kei is pretty much in the same situation as Nadal is:
Kei Nishikori had cyst removed in foot and is questionable for US Open, but here’s a sneak peek at the outfit he’ll compete in (if he plays):
Will Victor Estrella play?
Donskoy to qualify.
The first post they deleted was yours, you troll :lol:
I can't really see Rafa missing the USO. Rafa haters are really gonna be annoyed this time. I can see why too. He gives off the impression sometimes that he's practically on life support with an injury, then shows up and destroys the competition.
Best of 5 really helps Djoker... He's not been looking hot, but I have a feeling BO5 setting will iron out the kinks in his game
Can we please remove Raonic and Dimitrov from poll choices? May God bless you!
Lol i understand, no way they will win it (although Dimitrov got a very slim chance I believe, depends on his draw you never know)
Raonic = impossible
But a poll should remain unbiased have to respect these guy's ranking!
haha the haters would certainly cry! but i can't see it happening, even though if he plays, us fans will certainly hope he'll go far, step by step, nothing is impossible with Rafa!
i guess so, always harder (mentally and physically) to win 3 sets out of djokovic than 2!
Qualifying starts 19th August.
Wild cards are: Michael Llodra, Bernard Tomic, Ryan Harrison, Tim Smyczek, Marcos Giron, Wayne Odesnik, Jared Donaldson and Noah Rubin.
Nadal to win obviously. However Murray at 3rd favorite - LOL.
Djokovic and Nadal (should he play) are still the favourites, but Federer has a good chance as well. He just needs to hope he doesn't run into a big hitter on one of his (unfortunately more occurent) off days.
Look out for Wawrinka and Tsonga as well.
Nice to see Llodra but i'm wondering what he can do lol
here are his latest results http://www.tennisexplorer.com/player/llodra/
terrible, probably his last US open
FTW you mean lol Chico
Out of the big 4, Fed seems to be the in-form player, but with his age, you can never predict when he will suddenly start playing bad. Still, I picked Federer based on the current form.
I think it's extremely silly to write off Djokovic from any tournament in 2014. He is the best player overall in 2014 and can turn the situation around and start winning 24 straight matches any time. I truly believe he has at least as good a chance as Federer.
Nadal is a question mark since he hasn't had any match practices on American HC. He may get knocked out early or survive to get deep into the tournament, but I just think that winning USO seems a bit out of his reach realistically.
Murray is probably the best naturally suited player for USO out of the big 4, but he hasn't been back to his best so I don't think he will win here.
I actually think some young guns or someone who's never won a slam can take USO 2014. Dimitrov, Raonic, Tsonga, and some other guys with big strokes and big serves can do it. I would love to see it happening.
Federer for the win
Djokovic has been the best player on tour, the last 3 years. He's the favorite in my book. He's just been so consistent with Majors. But you still have to wonder where his head is at the moment.
If Nadal doesn't play, this tournament has Federer written all over it. I can't see Federer not winning it if Nadal doesn't play. Nole looks spent.
LOL yes. Late night posting
You mean last 4 years.
OK stupid question perhaps but do we know if the USO folk live stream any qualifying at all?
hi The Lad, I think not.
Let's say the last three and a half years Chico. :wink:
Nadal was hands down the best player of 2013 overall.
2 grand slams > 1 grand slam + 1 WTF
not to mention that Nadal wons more master 1000 than Djokovic last year.
Djokovic = best player in 2011 / 2012 / 2014
Some good qualie matchups start today
It does look like Djokovic is the best player this year (so far) but the year isn't over yet. Federer still has an outside shot to do better.
Nadal was the best player of 2013 but I'd hardly say it was "hands down". He only finished the year around 800 points ahead of Djokovic and that's with playing more tournaments too. What really made the difference last year was Novak's lackluster performances in some of the earlier Masters tournaments like Miami and Madrid. Who knows- it's possible that his recent Masters performances could end up affecting him finishing 2014 as YE #1.
Nadal achieved more than Djokovic while playing one less slam.
I seriously doubt Federer can have a better year than Djokovic.
I feel lots of people are overrating Federer lately, he looks not that good.
This lol. Ferrer is his pigeon and he nearly got bagelled.
Federer was playing much better in 2012 when he got beat by Berdych.
I don't think Fed will make the final. Would be a shock, others trying to make him the favourite.
That's a minus for him, not a plus.
Mayonnaise, is that you?
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