The Oversize Racquet Club

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Alafter, Jul 15, 2008.

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Why Oversize?

  1. Forgiveness

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  2. Power

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  3. Feel

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  1. Alafter

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    This is a sign up club for oversize users. Listed on this first post will be a constant update on which OS users are using what. Good to know, right? Oh yeah I am also seeing some new faces recently (as of 22 may 09) that talked about OS. Come join here.

    After totally being a lazy a%% for almost a year, I am ressurecting this for an update.

    Oversize for me is anything from 105 sq Inches onwards. Yeah the Sq inches is kinda sketchy, but I think 105 is a fair number.

    My experience has been that I play my best with oversize racquets. I can use the forgiveness, the power, and the softer feeling from the Nblade OS. *update* Forgiveness is not as important as feel now.

    I have tried Mids and soem midplus, but I dont see any benefits. I could probably try to get used to them, but I think I can better spend time improving my game by paying more attention to footwork and the basics.

    So that's my experience. Come, eh, sign in, join the club, and stuff.

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    Alafter - Wilson Nblade 106 - *UPDATE 22/05/09* SPPP @ 53
    Dreydey - Donnay Pro OS - Babolat Tonic Gut @ 58
    RakettoKozou - Please specify Racket - Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Douggo - Prince Vendetta TT OS - Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Haerdalis - Kneissl Black Star OS - SPPP @ 56
    Klatu Verata Necktie - Donnay Pro One OS, POG OS - Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Nhattie - Prince Thundercloud Titanium - Prince Synthetic Gut Multifilament string @ 62
    Ljubicic for number1 - Prince TT Bandit OS - Blue Gear @ 67
    JXShadow - Head LM Radical OS - Lightning XX @ 60
    Jack & Coke -Head Agassi Radical LE -16g Gosen kevlar mains @ 48 & 16g Gosen Sheep Micro crosses @ 58
    HugoGabriel -Prince TT Warrior OS -Luxilon Alu Power @57lbs
    Go13illy -Babolat Pure Drive 107 - Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Goldenyama -Head Twin Tube Radical Tour OS - Klip Armour Pro 17g @ 63lbs
    Doaklanda -Wilson Pro Staff 125 -Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Enlightened Coelacanth -Wilson Pro Staff Titanium 6.6 110 -Please Specify Strings and Tension
    Thanu - Prince Diablo XP OS - Please Specify Strings and Tension
    PrinceO3TourOS -Prince O3 Tour Oversize -Head Fibergel Spin 16 @ 27kg
    Drewwonu - Prince 03 hybrid spectrum OS -Please Specify Strings and Tension
    AndrewD -Prince 03 Tour OS - natural gut @ 50lbs
    80sPOG4me -Prince 03 Tour OS - PSGD 16 @ 65lbs
    Orion -Head Agassi Radical LE - Head UltraTour 16 @ 55lbs
     
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  2. DarthCow

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    I find nothing wrong with oversize racquets, fro as you said the forgiveness etc.
    Although most OS racquets are head heavy( with the exception of the Nblade OS)

    But I've found once your technique is up to scratch, switching to a smaller head size is beneficial, for the ability to swing freely with more control
     
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  3. dreydey

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    sign me up i use a 107
     
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  4. Alex1

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    What is the downside to oversize? I have problems with tennis elbow and am thinking of getting an oversize to help. A bigger sweet spot is also a nice incentive.
     
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  5. RakettoKozou

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    I'm in, I have a 112
     
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  6. The balls in your court.

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    What exactly qualifys as an over size?
     
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  7. kfactor/all/the/WAY!

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    dont sign me up, i use a 95!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  8. Alafter

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    I'm gonna call 105 sq inches and above as OS. It's just a hunch. There's gotta be a cut off line somewhere right?
     
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  9. Alafter

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    Guys it'd be nice if all of yous give your Racquet model and brand, as well as the string and tension.

    I will edit and put in OP.

    Then after this if anyone ever needs to ask about an OS stick, they can look at the list in the OP and then proceed to contact the relevant user of such sticks.
     
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  10. counter_puncher

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    THIS ClUB SUCKS!!! 98 INCHES FOR LIFE!!!
     
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  11. Alafter

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    Sorry, we are not taught to hear people with small P-nises.
     
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  12. Douggo

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    I'm using Prince TT Vendetta OS. 110 sq. in. and 16x19 makes for much spinniness.
     
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  13. johann-681312

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    My wife likes to use a 115 or 118. I typically use a smaller size.
     
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  14. haerdalis

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    I use the Kneissl Black Star with the heavier buttcap insert. Strung with SPPP pure at 56 lbs. Great racquet. I use it mostly for armfriendlieness and some forgiveness. It is fairly low powered for its headsize.
     
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  15. Loco4Tennis

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    geezz, 112??,, really??, i bet you never miss a shot :), haha just joking, i have a 110, i can hit 2,3 balls at the same time :)

    ok, sorry for that, had too much coffee today,, bad loco,, bad!!! :shock:
     
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  16. Klatu Verata Necktie

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    I have 2 old oversized frames, as original Donnay Pro-One oversize, and a single striped POG oversize. They are both wonderful frames.

    The Donnay was one of my frames growing up (the other being a 90" Prince frame that has broken). The Prince was my mother's frame in the 80's.
     
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  17. nhattie

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    put me on the list :D
    im using prince thundercloud titanium ; its 110 sq in. idk the string tension and what not. but i do know volleys are awesome on this stick xD
     
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  18. Alafter

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    See it's good to know that even sticks from the TT days are still getting some love.

    Keep em coming folks!
     
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  19. Ljubicic for number1

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    Well I have about 30 racquets of all shapes and sizes from mids to OS's but when the chips are down and I have a important match its always the TT Bandit OS that comes out of the bag.

    Very forgiving
    AWESOME spin
    beautiful feel
    Dream at net.
    Awesome slice serve
    While not a regular control racquet I can still control the ball better with this than my mids because of the extreme spin.

    I have tried heaps of other OS's and never found anything that compares to the old bandit. So I'm not sure its the head size that does it for me, just a special racquet. 27.5inch helps to I think.

    Few grams of lead and full blue gear at 67lbs. Cant beat it.
     
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  20. JXshadow

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    I'm in.
    I use a LM radical OS 107 with lightning xx @ 60
     
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  21. Alafter

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    Updated and highlighted.

    I would wanna make it easier to see names and racquets, but highlights are about as good as i can think of.
     
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  22. nhattie

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    ok i found out now, its nothing special because it came prestrung, but: Prince Synthetic Gut Multifilament string at 62 lbs.
    :)
     
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  23. protourOS

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    i used to play with head protour 280 oversize...still use it from time to time but only have one - great control OS raquet - very flexy...very nice feel...
     
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  24. AndrewD

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    How much trouble do you guys have in finding a good oversize racquet?

    I've been looking for something that might be a good alternative to the POG OS (open string pattern only) I'm currently using and still in a 105-110sq head size, but there's almost almost nothing. The Donnay Pro One seems a bit iffy (can't demo as I live in Australia), the Avery is over-priced and there isn't much else to speak of.
     
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  25. Charlie_Boy

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    I'll potentially be using an oversize Prince ozone four @ 54.
     
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  26. Charlie_Boy

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    Unless the Aero Storm changes my mind that is. :D
     
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  27. Alafter

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    Thank you!
     
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  28. Alafter

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    Andrew

    Poor you. It seems like it has been almost forever since you started your research for a new OS racquet and still unable to land on one.

    You are still using your POG OS, yes? (So I can put that on the OP).

    From my experience, no stick really stands out like a light in darkness.For me it ended up being more like choosing one, and then sticking with it. Nblade OS happened to be lucky cause I chose it and then stuck to it. After a while, I wasnt so anxious about racquets anymore. I had both fantastic and horrid play with it.

    Hey why dont you list out everything you have tried thus far, and then maybe we can help you think up other sticks. For example, Diablo OS (not the XP type version). I gave mine to my little sister :D
     
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  29. AndrewD

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    Alafter,

    I have been looking around for almost 3 years, on and off, to find an alternative to the POG OS. Admittedly, the key reason for it taking so long, is that I live in an area which has a very poor selection to choose from. That has dragged the search out quite a bit longer than it should have taken.

    All I want is a couple of alternatives to the POG OS. It might be that I end up staying with the POG but I'd like to see if there was something available that would be a touch more mobile up at the net.

    To date, I haven't tried many OS frames as there just aren't very many to choose from here. Have tried the Flexpoint Radical OS and found it to have a lot of power and good from the baseline but very slow through the air and at net. Tried the Prince 03 Speedport Red and found it far too light. There was good pop off the string-bed but no weight to my shots.

    Haven't tried the TT Warrior OS but have tried the MP version (might have said before that I'd tried the OS but I meant the MP). Assuming there is a similarity between the two, in terms of how they swing, I found the MP anaemic in its response and far too light. After serving one game might shoulder was hurting due to the racquet's lack of weight.

    Unfortunately, I missed out on the Prince 03 Tour OS. Looking at the specs I really think that could have come very close to being what I was looking for, once it had been cut down to a more manageable 27 inches. Unfortunately it's discontinued and the places which still sell it aren't shipping to Australia.
     
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  30. AndrewD

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    Flexpoint Radical OS
    i-Radical OS
    Prince 03 Red
    Prince Speedport Red
    Prince Original Graphite OS
    Head Agassi Limited Edition OS
    Babolat Aero Tour OS
    Head Flexpoint Instinct Team

    That's pretty well all of the oversize racquets I've been able to find in my area.

    In a slightly smaller headsize (102sq), I have also tried the
    Head FXP Radical Team (102sq)
    Head FXP Prestige Team (102sq)
    Volkl DNX V1 MP (102sq)
    Head Flexpoint and Liquidmetal Heat (102sq)
     
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  31. travlerajm

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    You might try cutting an NXG OS down to standard and adding lead to taste. Similar to the POG OS, but a bit softer and more spin-friendly.
     
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  32. AndrewD

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    I had thought of that and did remember a number of your posts about the NXG OS. HOWEVER, what is putting me off trying it is my experience of the NXG MP. In all my years playing tennis I don't think I've ever hit with a racquet that was more lifeless in the upper hoop. The racquet wasn't strung overly tight (bit below mid-range I would say) and the string was respectable enough but every shot hit in the upper third of the string bed just died. Can't say there was much feel either. Good power and good spin but not much 'soul'.

    I remember you saying that you were going to try the 03 Tour OS cut back to standard. Did you ever do that and, if so, what was the result?
     
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  33. Alafter

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    His racquet had a crooked head, remember?
     
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  34. AndrewD

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    I just had a look at the post and it was the handle pallet that was incorrectly aligned, not the actual racquet head.

    Looking at the options again, I think that the 03 Tour OS might be the best possible alternative. However, TW no-longer carries it. Do you know anyone reputable who does?
     
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  35. AndrewD

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    Thanks to a clubmate, I got the chance to hit with the NXG OS this afternoon. To put it mildly, I was monumentally disappointed. In all my time playing tennis I have never used a racquet that vibrated as much. I could literally feel the buzzing sensation all the way from my hand to my shoulder. Power was a bit more than I was expecting but control was absolutely shocking, despite the racquet being strung at 65lbs (that coming from someone who can string a POG OS at 40lbs, take a full, fast swing and still retain control). Serving was very good and I was able to generate a nice amount of slice. However, compared to the POG OS, there just wasn't as much movement through the air or off the court. Touch/feel was very ordinary.

    Good news is that I can eliminate it from my (very small) list of options.
     
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  36. bagung

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    just wonder how do the POG compare to prince graphite classic II...?
     
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  37. Alafter

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    TRy my racquet. I know you keep saying open pattern, but you got to give my racquet a try.
     
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  38. Ljubicic for number1

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    The NXG OS is a nice stick, I own it and a 4 stripe POG and would play the NXG over the POG any day.
     
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  39. AndrewD

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    Unfortunately, your racquet has been discontinued and there is almost no chance I'll ever get to demo it. If there was I would most definitely try it, regardless of the string pattern. I wouldn't expect it to be what I was looking for but I'd still give it a try.
     
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  40. Alafter

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    Darn. Well, I can only wish you somehow got your chance at it.

    Shall we start with figuring out all the sticks available to you?
     
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  41. AndrewD

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    I've really gone over the options and they aren't particularly promising.

    I do know that I am absolutely not interested in any extended length racquet, even if it is only an extra 1/4 of an inch. I might consider cutting a racquet down by that would be a last resort.

    That, by itself, leaves me with very few options. All I can think of are
    1) Head Radical OS line (Flexpoint, Microgel, Liquidmetal, Agassi LE)
    2) Donnay Pro One OS
    3) POG OS
    4) Avery M5 (not available in Australia to demo)
    5) Fischer MSpeed Pro #1 OS
    6) 03 Hybrid Hornet OS
     
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  42. snoopy

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    I found the Microgel OS to be soft, very comfortable, and fun to hit with, but it was too low powered and lacked mass for serious play. Customization might help.
     
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  43. AndrewD

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    Thanks. Actually, that sounds like my impression of the Diablo MP. Fun to hit with but if you aren't willing to add a lot of weight or don't have a super-fast swing speed to begin with (I don't) it lacks the guts needed to hit a damaging ball.
     
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    Might have uncovered another option. One of the Japanese players at my club is going to see whether or not the Prince 03 Speedport Black OS is available for sale yet. If it is we might get his brother to send one over.
     
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  45. bluetrain4

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    I own 3 POG OS and use them pretty often. But, then I again, I also use a 93 sq inch Diablo mid sometimes and a 95 sq inch Dunlop 200g sometimes as well, so I don't know if I deserve club membership.

    But, I own POGs and and use them. Really love the POG OS. Great control, great spin, great power and great stability. Never really feels too big. I can't say this for all OS racquets.

    Incredible defensive stick, so much power just blocking back the ball, and it's so much easier to take shots on the rise. Great for my 2HBH. And, even though the specs don't suggest a great volleying stick, I've never volleyed better.
     
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  46. Jack & Coke

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    I'm currently enjoying a good run with the Agassi Radical LE with 16g Gosen kevlar mains @ 48 lbs. & 16g Gosen Sheep Micro crosses @ 58 lbs.

    so far, so good.. I like! :)
     
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  47. SpEeDyZ

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    I currently use an oversize racquet but I will be switiching to a smaller one pretty soon ( hopefully )
    I have a DHS 857 at 60 pounds and a Prince CTS Synergy DB 26 at 62 pounds!
     
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  48. hugogabriel

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    I'm using a Prince TT Warrior 107', using Luxilon Alu Power @57lbs, and I'm pretty happy with it :)
     
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  49. Alafter

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    Thanks Hugo Grabriel. Welcome to the club. I have aTT Warrior 107 myself, but it is not my main. I have yet to spend ample time with it but at the moment i am concentrating on breaking my Nblade's strings before I pull this, amongst many racquet I strung without playing extensively, out of the closet. TT warrior 107 is next right after the K90.
     
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  50. timbrennan

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    In my opinion the Prince Original Graphite Classic Oversize is the best racket I have ever played with. It was my first proper racket back in 1993 and I couldn't believe it when Prince stopped making it. I bought a couple of Prince Precision Response OS (the red one), which was a good racket but not quite as nice.

    If you get the chance, check out my "Tennis Oversize" blog which is dedicated to reviews and stories about oversize rackets.
     
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