The Pacific 10 Alliance!

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  1. ga tennis

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    That would be nice!!! It might distract the other team..
     
  2. norcaltennisnut

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    It is a great question why both Oregon and Arizona don't have any expectations with their men's tennis programs. When they visit Palo Alto I don't even bother to go because the teams are so bad. With all the new money in the Pac 12 I would like to see ASU revive the men's team.
     
  3. SoCal10s

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    first real test for 2013 USC men's team this Friday with Texas ... any predictions.. ?
     
  4. ClarkC

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    I think USC is quite a bit stronger than Texas. It would help to have Sarmiento healthy, but they could probably win without him.
     
  5. matchplay

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    what happened to Ray? I think he just recently won the loaded Sherwood Cup event
     
  6. SoCal10s

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    Ray-Ray is fine.. I think the coach has been sitting him out the last few battles so he can see the others perform ... some of USC's lineup looks a bit rusty recently ... I hope they all peak at the right time..
     
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  8. Clemson_tennis

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    Well Oregon comes away with a nice 6-1 win over Arkansas.
     
  9. Clemson_tennis

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    Oregon showing that they have improved. Cambier could always play ball but others on that team are stepping up now. This team is better than last year's. Last year they got up into the 30's early very artificially, but this years team is more more legit.
     
  10. Golden_state_of_mind

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    Stromgest conference in America each year.
     
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    Are you basing that solely on the fact that Pac 12 team has won the NCAA's 4 years in a row, or are you talking the Conference as a whole? I hope it is the former and not the latter.
     
  12. Golden_state_of_mind

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    As a whole it's the best. 3 perennial top 8 teams (Stanford is down a bit this year) plus you have two top 25 regulars in Cal and Washington. A great team like Cal has to settle for 4th most years because of the ridiculous teams up top. Oregon Arizona and Utah are better than their records just because they have like 10 guaranteed losses each season because of how good the teams 1-5 are. Oregon is a good team this year and would punish many teams but not in the Pac 12.
     
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    Says fanboy.

    Hands down the SEC is the overall best tennis conference. Minus the top team USC, it's not even a contest.
     
  14. Golden_state_of_mind

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    based on what?
     
  15. andfor

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    Let's start with the ITA National Indoor. 16 teams, 7 from the SEC.

    Then the current top 25
    SEC 9 teams.
    PAC-10 4 teams.

    Whats you got?
     
  16. socaltennnis

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    SEC has almost double the schools as the PAC-8.

    Top 5
    2/8 vs 0/14

    Top 10
    2/8 vs 3/14

    Top 15
    3/8 vs 6/14

    Top 20
    4/8 vs 7/14
     
  17. Golden_state_of_mind

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    the Pac 12 has 8 teams. SEC has 13. So it's actually impossible for Pac 12 to have 9 teams in the top 25.

    The SEC team we played wasn't so hard. Washington didn't think so either.

    SEC has no teams in the top 5, nobody in that conference can win a national title. Stanford will be top 25 soon that will be 5 of top 25 out of 8. I mean is LSU really better than Stanford?

    Here's the thing. Every SEC team would go 0-4 on the year vs USC and UCLA. And few could get a win vs Cal.
     
  18. Golden_state_of_mind

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    also I'm a girl.
     
  19. Jakes On A Plane

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    If I were a coach of a team that could sit somewhere in the top 20, and got to choose between going into the SEC or Pac 12, it would no doubt be the SEC.

    My team might stick with USC and UCLA at some positions, but more than likely get beaten 5-2 at best; probably go 4-3 or3-4 with Cal and probably beat UW; then obliterate Stanford, Oregon, Arizona, and Utah.

    My team would probably go 4-3 or 3-4 with Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Florida, Ole Miss, MSU, Texas A&M, and Auburn.
     
  20. Automator

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    What's your definition of "soon"?
     
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    big re-match this Friday USC and UCLA .. again and again and agian ... Marks Stadium is going to rock.. so who takes this one?

    remember this past week, was won by USC on the last match tie-breaker in the 3rd set... last year UCLA came in and snapped USC's home winning streak... this has to be the best rivalry in college tennis right now...
     
  22. bluetrain4

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    Do they play twice this year, or is this the only scheduled matchup (not including potential NCAA meeting)?
     
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    The California Pac-12 schools play each other twice in the regular season. the first does not count in the conference standings, the second one does.

    So it's possible they will play five times this year.
     
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    That's too many times.
     
  25. bluetrain4

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    Okay, thanks. ITA Indoors, 2 regular season matchups, NCAAs. What is the potential 5th match? Is Pac-12 actually going to have a team conference tournament now with the addition of new members?
     
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    They had a team tournament last year, and USC beat UCLA in the final, after UCLA had pulled off the upset a week earlier with the stacked lineup. The stack was disallowed in the PAC-12 tourney, then UCLA got away with it again in the NCAA tourney but fell short of the upset that time.
     
  27. bluetrain4

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    Didn't realize there was a team tourney last year. That's a fairly new thing, right? I remember the PAC did the individual tournament instead of team up until fairly recently.
     
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    they did it at the famous Ojai tournament ... Ojai messed up the traditional format and went with team competition last year...
     
  29. Clemson_tennis

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    Oregon with two big matches this weekend. Vs unranked Washington. Need to avoid the upset because UW will view this as a very winnable match and one to get their season kick-started.

    Then Oregon gets #15 Boise State. A big chance for them to get a big time ranking boosting win, I think they can beat Boise, must must must take this opportunity. After Boise all they have is matches vs the big pac 12 teams and lower ranked teams.
     
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    1. UCLA
    1. USC
    1. Cal
    4. Oregon
    5. Utah
    6. Arizona
    7. Washington
     
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    Oregon won both games, this is a real start for this Team. ! This could ve ensured a ncaa-berth.
     
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    you ve three times 1. ..and that is not right...:)
     
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    i really think it is has travel reasons..they all not fly out very often out of their state
    and everyone in California wants to see this a lot of times i think

    Giron and Sarmiento are in the Quali for indian wells by the way :shock:
     
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    Utah gets a big ranked win over a way over-ranked Nebraska team
     
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    Cal looks pretty powerful today against TCU. I don't see how UCLA or USC could be any more impressive against TCU than Cal is right now.
     
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    Where's the Card? Already beaten Washington.
     
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    TCU could beat a lot of teams on a good day. We had a down day and the Horned Frogs gave us their best shot and we still came out on top.
     
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    great posting from u ! :)
     
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    Throwback, remember when Arizona beat UCLA in 2010?

    Jay Goldman and Ravid Hazi each rallied from a set down at courts 2 and 5 to give the Wildcats the big win.

    crazy times
     
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    Big match cal vs baylor. Baylor is fav. They are better in dubs , 1 and 2 plus maybe dornbusch
     
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    I hope the coach at Arizona has his resume updated. They might be the worst team ever in the conference.
     
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    He definitely should update it. Arizona is a tough job with the Cali schools to contend with each year but there's no excuse for being that poor, especially with Arizona State no longer having a program.
     
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    BIG win today vs Saint Mary's!
     
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    and Cal easily took oht Tulsa.!
     
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    I posted this on one of the other threads. I'm not sure how the coach at Arizona has managed to hold on to his job for so many years. I know they were pretty good (top 30ish) I want to say around 2008 or but they have been absolutely dreadful the last 4 or 5 years. A quick look at their overall record in that span is frightening but their conference record is even more dreadful (2 and 20 in 5 years).
     
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    Cal is having real problems today at pepperdine. #1 and #2 are down
     
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    Stanford women on a roll. this team is full of talent
     
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    Looks like Utah/Oregon might come down to a 3rd set between Cambier and Hamza. Two very talented guys, fun to watch players, who are quite frankly underachieving in college.
     
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    I wonder if he ever made an official visit to Nevada either…if not then choosing Oregon over Nevada was probably an easier choice and not too far off base. If he did make a visit all the way to Nevada then chose Oregon without ever going that would be a little suspicious.
     

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