The POG 100 Club: Std and LB

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  1. goosala

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    I'll be the first to declare my membership. I currently have two with a third on order. Leaded up with six inches of 1/2 inch lead tape at the 3 and 9 and the same amount of 12 inches under the grip to counterbalance the frame. Total static weigth is now 12.1 ounces the way a true player's frame should be. Please chime in if you want to join or own this frame since the POG 93 is now history.
     
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  2. THESEXPISTOL

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    I have four of them from the "Straight Shaft" iteration...
     
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  3. robbo1970

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    Are we talking about the new Classic Graphite 100?
     
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  4. GaryB

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    I'm in. Although my 100 is languishing in a cupboard under my stairs at the moment.
    It's due for a new stringjob and perhaps some lead and a trip to the courts some day soon though...
     
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    In, playing the best tennis of my life right now.
     
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    I ended up buying 6 of the Original Longbodies before they all disappeared, and cut em down to 27.5".
    Yep, it's my holy grail. I don't demo anything anymore.
     
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  7. Soundbyte

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    In x6. A little lead tape on the hoop and you're golden. Great feel, excellent all around racket for the modern game.
     
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  8. robbo1970

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    I'm guessing you do mean the new one. Count me in, I love it.

    More or less stock form for me, just changed the grip to dura pro.
     
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  9. mad dog1

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    the notorious & imfamous Garpahite 100 std! brilliant stick, indeed. i have much love for this one! :)
     
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  10. goosala

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    If you own the previous 100 LB then of course you are welcome.
     
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  11. robbo1970

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    It's Garpahite, get your technology right mate lol:)
     
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  12. ae1222

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    I switched from the PT57A to the 100 LB (with some modifications) but still love it...
     
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    Demoing this, this weekend. Took a few air swings with it today, and wow, not hefty at all! Used to use the 107 against juniors and always felt a slightly faster version would be awesome. I have a feeling I might be ditching my current stick after this weekend.
     
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  14. robbo1970

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    If you mean the 100, then I totally agree. It obviously has some heft due to the 330g static weight (compared to some other 100sq racquets) but the HL balance and 320 SW make if feel really manvouvrable.

    The specs sit perfectly for me and I would urge a lot of players who add lead to their 300-320g sticks to give this a go.

    For a player who likes a thin beamed, solid feeling racket but with a 100sq head, whats not to like! Except the Resi Pro grip...I dont like that grip at all, too slippery when damp. I put a Karakal PU Super on mine. I know its about the cheapest grip out there, but I just think its the best.
     
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  16. goosala

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    This frame is looking to become an instant classic. I do think the flex rating is a little higher than stated. The 62 rating feels more like 66.
     
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    yes, you are right! my most sincere apologies. fixed it! :D
     
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  18. ae1222

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    I actually thought it felt a tad more flexible than 62. Maybe it is all the lead I have on mine, but feels more like 60 to me...
     
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  19. goosala

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    As you can tell from my original post I have plenty of lead tape on mine but it still feels stiffer than my Dunlop 100's which are rated at 63.
     
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  20. mad dog1

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    adding lead generally makes a racquet feel stiffer due to the fact that it takes more force from the ball to deflect the racquet given the increased weight of the racquet.
     
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  21. B Cubed

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    I demoed this solidly yesterday. And three games into a set I was sold.

    I've been out of the game for years, and my previous sticks were Radical OS iterations and POG OS's. The last few months I've been getting dialed in on the new GRad MPs looking for a faster smaller head size and seeing if I could go with a modern racket.

    But this, this was like home... in three swings.. The smaller head size gave it the swing speed I didn't have on the POG OS, and yet, it gives the power you want, WHEN you want it. I really agree with those saying it's an old school racket made for the modern game. I didn't find any issues with the heft (and I did prefer my old POGs with the leather grip). And (at least the demo I tried) I didn't feel any issue with the flex. It felt around 62.

    Moral of the story - home.
     
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  22. B Cubed

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    RE: Std. length. I didn't mind a syn grip at all - would probably use a little tape to shape the palette but use one of the thin grips (not the stock one - still too squishy) and an overgrip.
     
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    After further usage, I've decided that a leather grip + lead tape is the way to go to open this racket up a bit. It's great in stock form, but I always like a little bit more weight. I still have to experiment with tensions. I'm guessing 48-50 lbs might be a good tension sweet spot
     
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  24. robbo1970

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    I think the fact that it comes with a synth grip as stock is a great advantage for those wanting to add a bit of weight with a leather grip. I always think its probably a bit of a pain when leather comes as stock and someone has to remove it to add lead tape on the handle and replace the leather, just to get a bit of extra weight.

    One of the many reasons I like this stick is because it already has sufficient weight for me without the need to add leather. And I prefer a synth grip anyway, so its a great bonus.

    I had a 98 strung with synth gut at 50lbs and it felt nice. I'd be tempted to try 50 or 52 with this one when I need to re-string it.
     
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  25. Soundbyte

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    Great point. I never thought about that before for other rackets. I used to narrow down my racket choices to those that came with stock leather grips, simply because those were most likely to be in my spec range. Nowadays, however, that's no longer the case.
     
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  26. robbo1970

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    Yeah I just think it's such a versatile racquet. I know I'm biased of course, but it does seem some want to add weight so put on a leather grip, but may actually find they prefer a synth grip, and of course there are others who don't want a stock leather, then have to compensate with lead tape if they remove stock leather in favour of a synth. This racquet is just so versatile.
     
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  27. THESEXPISTOL

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    After 1 year of longbody racquets i've cut my POGs MP LB to 27''. I was getting jammed in volleys and my 2HB really sucked. Instant fix! I've have 2 stripes of 1/2inch leadtape in the handle after the buttcap, 4g at 3', 4g at 9', and a TW Leather Grip.
     
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    The 100 has a really nice classic ball feel and is super solid on ball contact. The current OS tour version feels stiffer and more brassy.
     
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  29. robbo1970

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    I know we are probably talking from a biased perspective, but for anyone looking for a 100sq racquet, this has to feature on everyone's demo list.
     
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  30. GaryB

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    I'm looking at adding a bit of lead to increase power on my 100 standard. I'm also putting on a leather grip. Can anyone advise how much lead placed at 12 would counterbalance the grip weight and retain the same balance?
     
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  31. Soundbyte

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    GaryB, it'll all depend on how heavy your leather grip weighs (not all grips are created equal). Your best bet is to measure the weight and balance of the racket before and after grip installation. The balance point can be measured with a ruler and a pencil (or any cylinder object that you can "roll" the racket on to find the balance point). Once you know the weight and balance point, you can add lead to make it match the original balance point. Use the TW calculator to help you estimate how much lead you need
     
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    If the name continues to catch on, would be awesome if some years from now Prince actually used that word somewhere officially.

    Long live the Garpahite!
     
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  33. GaryB

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    Thanks Soundbyte
     
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  34. GaryB

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    Can anyone here comment in what string set-ups have worked best on the standard 100?
     
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    Full poly works well. Powerful poly like cyclone I string at 56lbs. Low powered poly like ripspin I string at 48 lbs. Synthetic in the mid 50's works well. Multifiliments in the upper 50's works well.
     
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  36. Vasuri

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    Interested in the graphite 100. I do like flexible classic feeling racquets. Unfortunately cannot demo.

    I have played with Prince exo3 tour 16x18 quite a lot. Can anyone compare the tour 16x18 and graphite 100, especially interested in control & power. I find the tour 16x18 control a little lacking, it is also extremely soft and therefore i find it lacks some "put away" power. Hoping that graphite 100 would have better control and a bit more power due to higher stiffness?
     
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  37. robbo1970

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    I've never used the Tour, but I think you would probably find the Classic 100 gives that bit of extra power as it is a bit stiffer. The Classic is slightly heavier at 330g but has a SW of 320, so swings a touch lighter than the Tour. I found that the Exo3 ports did soften the amount of power I got when I used them. If you like the specs of the Classic 100, I'm sure you will like playing with it. I'm just using syn gut in mine at 55, which feels fine for both control and power.

    I keep saying this about the Classic 100, but I genuinely believe this racquet will fit the specs of so many players.
     
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  38. B Cubed

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    My new garpahite is in its box waiting on my stoop as we speak... Such a long work day this shall be. Customization will take place within 20 secs. of walking in the door.
     
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    Nice one.

    I had the same wait when I ordered my second one. It was on a next day delivery, but even that seemed too slow. Then having to wait all day to get my hands on it.

    One of the small pleasures in life, unwrapping a new racquet.

    Order yourself some of the new Prince O-dampeners from TW as well. Best O-dampeners out there.
     
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    Owned both of them - although not at the same time. I was able to get easier depth with the EXO3 and more control with the Graphite 100.

    I really really wanted to like the Graphite 100, but I had it in my bag with the Graphite Longbody and the Tour 100T ESP and found it was the least used racquet of those. Some days I wish I still had my EXO3 Tours, but I seldom feel that about the Graphite 100. Longbody is great.
     
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  42. GaryB

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    I've tried the PPA before at 55 and loved it. However, I do prefer polys though so will defo try the Yonex ptp. I actually have that string on my tour 16x18 but have yet to hit it
     
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    I have been using Solinco Tour Bite soft at 63 lbs and it plays great. I did use Hurricane Tour for a bit because I break strings like mad in this thing, but that string is too stiff and hurts my arm.
     
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    I've been hitting with this stick off and on since it came out. I love it but haven't pulled the trigger, but I think I'm getting close. I use the standard with 3 grams of lead at 3 and 9. It comes to 12.1 oz. Great stick.
     
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  45. MikeHitsHard93

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    What do you think of the strike and could you compare it to the pog 100?
     
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    ae1222 and GS, what mods did you make after cutting the LB down to 27.5? I would like to do this as well... but am unsure of the effect on swingweight and stability.
     
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    Speaking from the point of view as both are modified with lead, these are a number of differences from my perspective.

    Power: The Strike is much more powerful than the POG 100. I like this as I found myself having to hold back with the Strike while I rarely have this problem with POG 100. Incidentally, according to Prince's power level rating, the POG 100 is the least powerful stick in their lineup now. I've been on a Prince demo rampage for the past week or so and I can attest that this stick doesn't offer a lot of free power.

    Control: This goes to the POG 100 hands down. There is something about a stick when you can feel the frame bend around a ball that makes me have more confidence in my strokes.

    Ease of use: The Strike is much easier to play with. You better bring your A-game with the POG 100. The sweet spot seems much smaller than the Strike. I can defend much easier with the Strike.

    Volleys: This is the only area in which I find the POG 100 lacking for my game. There seems to be a little disconnection for me when volleying with this stick. This may be the only area where I prefer the Strike. The Strike is a great volleying stick with good put away power and great control. I'm playing with lead to try to get the POG 100 in the ball park.

    As I've said, I've hit with a good deal of Prince sticks this past week. The Tour 100 (16 and 18 main) Tour 100 ESP, 95 ESP, POG 100, and POG 107.
    I really liked the Tour 100 (18X20), but it has a little too much power for what I'm looking for. The POG 100 and POG 107 are in a dog fight right now. I played with the POG 107 for about 15 years and the POG 100 was just as easy for me to pick up and play with it without much of an adjustment period. I struggle with the 107 when serving and the POG 100 with volleys, but either way I'm fairly convinced that I will be changing to one of these after another week of hitting.
     
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  48. GS

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    Unless your height is way below 6 feet tall, you really don't need a 28" long racquet. I never met a 28 incher that I liked.
    But at 27.5 inches, everything clicked for me. Serves, and even volleys. I tried lead tape at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, but that extra half ounce felt alittle too heavy for me, so I took it all off, and swung alittle happier.
    I'm at 57 lbs, with soft multi's.
     
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  49. Nastase

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    Thanks GS, good to hear...so if the SW was 334 before, what is it with .5 inches removed?
     
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  50. GS

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    My old POG Longbodies actually measured 27-3/4" long, so I only cut a 1/4" off, which probably didn't affect the swingweight that much. The swingweight on these old POGs were listed at 321.
    Just demo the new Graphite 100 and Graphite 100 Longbody from TW, and go from there. I demo-ed em recently and kinda liked both of em.
     
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