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  1. JackB1

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    actually thinner string in general = More power.

    I would try a 16g poly cross. Choose a lower powered poly, but the most impact can be had by raising the tension on the gut mains.
     
  2. stronzzi70

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    done with the black drive Roddick, after 2 month this racquet is not for me....too much power....back to my blx blade tour.
    Enjoy.....
     
  3. mawashi

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    Not at 12 but at 3n9 o'clock.
    For me I like big grips so I choose gamma and wrapped it with more overlap to build up the grip more. My 4 3/8 feels more like a 4 1/2. If you prefer thin grips I think tw has their own brand.

    The knee guards are very helpful however, try and look for compression stuff like those from Phiten which is super expensive but really amazing in how they work. I'm not sure if there are others just as good but that japanese brand is really good.
     
  4. JackB1

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    wear those patela straps! They help out a lot.
     
  5. GarryClarke

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    MSV hex 1.23 at 52/50 and tour bite 16L at the same tension is really amazing

    mawashi

    do you mean using 1 string at 52/50 or a combination of the 2????
    i like the MSV 1,23 as my local tennis store has it in black/blue so would go nice on the PD dont you think??? or maybe a mix of black Excel mains and msv crosses at 52/50????...im peeing in the wind here guys as havent got a bloody clue on string/combo,s/tensions :confused:

    mawashi/jack

    i wear the patella straps and have found them to very very good,
    i no how it feels to not wear them and its not good trust me,days of hobbling about like a proper old man!!!!,all i would want then is my pipe and slippers and im sorted lol

    cheers guys on the advice and keep it rolling as looking at getting the racket restrung/customised next weekend
     
  6. mawashi

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    Sorry for the confusion, it a full bed or either tour bite 16L or msv hex 1.23 52 lbs mains 50 lbs cross.

    The brace are really good but when I wear them I get a really funky tan around my knees lol!
     
  7. GarryClarke

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    ahhhh i get it now lol,
    a full bed of MSV its gonna be as i can do the mains black and crosses blue or vice versa,whatever looks best to my eye:)

    lead placement
    do i put two 4inch lengths of lead tape per side or just 1 per side at 3/9 oclock?????

    and would love to see those funky tanned knee,s lol
    maybe it could be your new avatar!!!!!!!
    lucky i work outside and wear shorts so i dont get stupid lines below my knees.

    thanks again for the advice

    cheers garry
     
  8. Ross K

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    Could anyone who's played the old Swirly or Team versions of the PD please say a bit about how they think they compare with the 2012 version.
     
  9. mawashi

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    Black and blue lol! You're too colour coordinated my friend, my strings are just a single tone if possible...!

    I use 4" of 1/4 inch lead strips strips. 2 each at the middle of 3 n 9 o'clock to add more lateral stability. Here is a photo of the 3 & 9 and also 5 inches at 12 o'clock.

    [​IMG]

    No way... my knees won't win any beauty contests... scars galore from soccer, cycling, spills, surgery etc... Shrek's knees would look better lol!
     
  10. GarryClarke

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    thanks for the pic mate 8)
    i get what you maen now lol,am i stupid or what lol
    gonna try the 3/9 oclock first and see how she sings!!!!!

    do you think a mix of black excel mains/MSA blue crosses
    at 52/50 would work or just stick with 100% MSA black/blue?????
    happy just to try MSA for now but am happy to experiment....

    shame about the knee,s and from the sound of it you have had a rough time with them.
    best i thank my lucky stars as i can control my patella pain,s,
    a bit of ice and patella straps job done...

    thanks again for the advice

    garry
     
  11. mawashi

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    Sorry buddy, no experience with MSA. The thing is I tend to use stiff low powered strings like tour bite, msv, kevlar etc lol!

    So 52/50 is ok for tour bite and msv but if something softer and more powerful you'll have to string higher.

    http://www.stringforum.net/stringdb.php

    Has a lot of useful info about strings.
     
  12. GarryClarke

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    i meant MSV (who,s a complete idiot ME) pmsl:oops:

    also cheers for the link and will have a look now

    should have it strung by this time next week or just wear the strings ive got on (babolat addiction) it,but will defo get MSV at 52/50 and if that doesnt suit me i will go with jack,s black excell at 56.
     
  13. mawashi

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    U're just excited I can see lol!

    Another thing is I'm here in Singapore where the afternoon temp is like 33-35 c so we string it higher here but I think if you don't string it too tight like 58 and above the pd should be fairly comfy still.
     
  14. GarryClarke

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    im so excited im dribbling now pmsl

    and i thought 24/25c here in the uk was hot lol

    been reviewing MSV/TOUR BITE on stringforum (thanks for the link) and there isnt much in them!!!!
    but will go with MSV so i can have black/blue strings to go with the awsome paint job on the PD,and will get the stringer to put a leather grip/4 inch lead strips at 9/3 oclock so it will all be ready for "blast off"...

    should be at work now but my mate called in sick at the last minute (heat stroke) so am watching the french open on eurosport 2.
    now those guys can hit/play "i wanna be like them" lol


    cheers garry
     
  15. mawashi

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    There's tons of write ups bout msv hex and tour bite... there are a lot of links if you search, under each diameter you'll find individual ratings.

    Are you sure?
    Tour bite 16L
    http://www.stringforum.net/ratings.php?sdnr=4035&fstatus=0
    17
    http://www.stringforum.net/ratings.php?sdnr=4530&fstatus=0

    MSV hex 1.23
    http://www.stringforum.net/ratings.php?sdnr=2860&fstatus=0
    1.18
    http://www.stringforum.net/ratings.php?sdnr=2859&fstatus=0

    http://www.stringforum.net/string2010.php
    http://www.stringforum.net/string2011.php
     
  16. GarryClarke

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    who,s been a boy then lol

    ive got about 10 tabs open looking at MSV hex/tour bite reviews,
    tour bite is 2011 best string in 1.23 but its silver:(
    why couldnt they do it in better colours (black/blue lol)
    thats the only reason im going for MSV!!!!!!!

    i was going to ask about all the different numers e.g 1.23/16L but i will read up a bit more and save you keyboard burn :shock: lol
     
  17. mawashi

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    I'll save you the trouble.

    tour bite 1.25. Any bigger like 1.3 n it'll weight more and have less power. Unless you keep breaking strings like cotton you don't need 1.30. 1.2... wears out too fast.

    MSV. 1.18... super thin feels great, has fantastic spin n power but playability drops fast and goes dead faster. 1.23 is an ok diameter especially if you are using the pd with such an open string patten.

    Btw, silver grey looks cool on the pd too lol!
     
  18. GarryClarke

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    again my friend you come trumps:)

    i did read abit but got bored so glad you posted,and if your were a tad closer i would have brought you an ice cold pint of our british beer.

    as for silver looking good on my PD,well the jury is out untill i put the strings to the frame lol

    far to picky i no but ive got to hold the thing so got to look good dont you no lol
     
  19. mawashi

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    Cool I used to study around Nottingham university and I remembered some places sold warm beer but it's summer now so cold it is lol!

    MSV is an odd string. The first time you use string and use it, it feels soft. However, after the first couple of hours the string bed stiffens up and that's then the ball bite is really good.

    Tour bite behaves like a regular poly. Fantastic when fresh but gets notched and loses it spin and bite after a while.
     
  20. GarryClarke

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    ahhh i did wonder why your english was so good lol
    and warm beer is just yuk yuk yuk:eek:

    im defo going with MSV in black/blue and cant wait to see the spin potential as im getting shed loads of spin on the addiction it came with!!!!!!!
    i did look the addiction up and its durabilty is pants and come to think of it it wasnt all that overall!!!!!

    tour bite/black excel will be my next choice if i cant get on with MSV
     
  21. mawashi

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    LOL! Yeah I rather have a cold pint of Guinness or a Belgium ale.

    FYI, I'm from Singapore, most if not all need to take O and A levels and like most Chinese/Asians we spread ourselves everywhere...

    U name it. Oxford, Harvard, MIT, Peking University... etc, etc, we're there lol!
     
  22. Federerkblade

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    Im going to try full mantis power synthetic 1.30mm as they have just released it and see how i get on
     
  23. GarryClarke

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    keep us posted on how you get on with the mantis/tensions/durability

    cheers garry
     
  24. GarryClarke

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    Guinness yuk yuk yuk and belgium beer is well strong it would blow my head off lol

    i applaud you all for the dedication to learn english/O-A levels,and to be honest the english are a lazy bunch and like myself i can only speak english:oops:
    think we all expect others to speak english and when they cant we get the right hump lol.

    im just off for a few hours club mixed doubles,so i get to swing my shinny new PD again,just hope i can get the 1st serve working better than my last game as it was utter rubbish.....
     
  25. LuxLou

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    I have four demos on the way, 3 of which are bolded (PSTGT is the 4th). Can you explain why the Black PDR has your attention? What does it do better than the 95D and Tflight 320?

    I like your description we are fairly similar, right now I'm using a 13oz Kbt but I'm realizing how my game has transformed. I want huge spin and more mph on the serve, while more power can tame my energy output into every shot (control is becoming an afterthought like you said)...


    Obviously I'll find out more when the demos arrive but any insight on what I'm getting into? Thanks
     
  26. LanEvo

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    Power, Stability, and Serve, those should be the main points, the rest is on your skills.
     
  27. GarryClarke

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    WOW cant believe i missed this!!!!
    looks the nut,s lanevo:)
    gonna have my PD srtrung with black/blue MSV very very soon so i will post some pics when its done
     
  28. LanEvo

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    Nice, mine is Tristar/XCel Black 58/56. I took it out, very nice hitting, like any multi. setup out there. Low powered I will say, I like that. But yea, most people though I was using a Poly on the crosses, but nope it is a Multi.
     
  29. GarryClarke

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    thanks for set up info and another one to put in my little black book

    my PD is stock strung with addiction at the mo,

    i was playimg last nite and it was only the second time out with the PD/addiction strings and there dead already.
    didnt mater how hard i hit the ball it was landind mid court and was hard hard work.
    not happy to be honest so why do babolat string it with crap strings?????

    my head LM8 still has the same string,s i brought it with and it can seriously wack a ball,i no its no where near the PD in the power stakes..
     
  30. LanEvo

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    This was what was initially on there. 3rd string job on the racquet currently. First was Addiction, too powerful imo. I could not control it too well hitting flat. Second was BHBR around 56, nice poly, but did not help on my flat game, and I could only keep it in with topspin. And this 3rd setup is my best so far, low powered for my game, hits nice topspin when needed. It is the best setup so far. I would like to cut them out, and put on a Kevlar hybrid, as I would be able to pocket the ball even more, but this current setup has about $15 worth of string on it, and I don't think I could part with throwing that amount of money down the drain.

    I recommend if you can find it, try and find Babolat Attraction, the older generation of Addiction. I really enjoy that one, it is currently strung in my PD+, PDR+ has the Tristar/XCel Black. It is a lower powered version of Addiction, and a bit softer. Very nice for a baseline game. And a joy at net.

    Also, I think just some tension dropped off on the Addiction on your racquet, continue playing with it and you will adjust, from what I know only Polys go deal, Multis. tend to play the same until they drop tension. Also, if you really want a more powerful frame, and can handle the weight try out the PDR. The only reason I have a Std. PD is because it is light and I can swing faster. But it is nowhere near as stable or powerful as the PDR. I actually feel all the mishits and shanks with the regular PD, on the PDR, anywhere you hit it on the frame is pretty solid, I mean you know you mishit, but it is still solid.
     
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  31. NE1for10is?

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    So I tried it with VS gut/Co-Focus at 57/53 and hit with the ball machine for a couple hours and loved it. Incredible spin, easy power and control.

    Then the next few days I played some matches and noticed that the spin was still there, but easy power and control I had before was gone and I had to work a lot harder for it. I had difficulty controlling my shots and lost confidence being able to go for it. Is the Co-focus is only good for a couple hours then? At least the BHBR was good for about 7 hours before I had to clip it out.

    Since my favorite string with this racquet so far has been Addiction at 60 lbs, my next move is to try JackB1's suggestion of Xcel at 56 and 60 and if that doesn't work, I'm on to a different racquet.
     
  32. Power Player

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    Not at all..you need to get used to the string bed and not switch setups so much.

    The gut poly will play tight for a few hours and then the poly drops. I string the coFocus at 56, but regardless to play well with gut poly you need to hit with spin and you need to learn the feel of it. It is an easy, relaxed swing that is very smooth. Racquet head speed needs to be pretty high as well. Once you dial it in, you will be able to use this stringbed until it breaks.

    It just sounds like you are trying too many strings and that is a mistake with gut/poly. I had the same issue at first, but it is now my go to setup. The tension drop happens, but you should be able to adjust from there with some practice.
     
  33. BC1

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    I agree. I had the gut/poly in my pdr and loved it. Just put it in my standard pd2012 a week ago and played with it an hour after it was strung and hated it. I couldn't believe it. I was thinking it was just the differences in the pd compared to the pdr. However, tried it two days later and it was like a different racquet. Felt a lot more silmilar to the pdr. Anyway, what power says is true. You got to let the strings settle in and stretch a little. It makes a huge difference.

    I also agree it takes a little time to get the feel of it. It's different then any other set-up. But it should be powerful and comfortable. Control may not be up there with the full poly, but it's not bad.
     
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  34. GarryClarke

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    thanks for the info BC1
    as i thought it played pants last nite,it didnt mater how hard i hit it it was only going mid court and that was a flat shot!!!!!

    the 1st outing was saturday and the PD played awsome,the pace/TS was amazing and so little effort?????

    i will give it another go at the weekend and see if its settled ok,
    if i can get the PD to play like it did on saturday then all my dreams would come true because it just how i like it the power/spin and addiction isnt known for spin (stringersforum).

    the last thing i want to be doing is throw money away with restring after restring,all i want it to do is play like it did the 1st time out.

    cheers garry
     
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  35. GarryClarke

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    thanks for the advice and yes i shanked/mishit a few but by that time i was ready to throw the PD in the nearest bin lol

    gonna give it another go and a restring is in order if it continues,
    im also thinking maybe i should have got the PDR as im a power player/server/baseline.but i also play mixed doubles so didnt want a broom handle as a racket so to speak.
    but from all the info on the PDR it would have been ok maybe!!!!!!!


    all i want is my PD to play how it did saturday is that much to ask:cry:

    ive just found babolat attraction,is it 16L/1.30 ?????
    also what tensions would you recommend on a standard PD

    cheers garry
     
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  36. LanEvo

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    What did you have it at originally? As well, what do you plan on restring it with? The MSV? Yep, that is the Babolat Attraction I am talking about. Depending on the string choice, either I can give a reccomendation for tension or other members can, but let me know what you plan on restring with first.
     
  37. LanEvo

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    As well, I play doubles right now as well, it is the season. Fall is when I will play singles, but I do just fine in doubles with the PDR and I am using the Plus version, even longer. No problems with it in terms of maneuverability. I think it is better than the regular PD really, more stable on volleys, especially the mishit volleys, the stability helps to guide the shot through. But definitely take it out again and see how it goes.
     
  38. GarryClarke

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    thanks LanEvo
    am defo going with MSV strung at 52/50 as suggested by mawashi
    also going to add some lead at 3/9 oclock to aid spin!!!!
    and if that fails i will go with black excel @56
    i no this restring lark is hit and miss as we all play different styles,im a power player who like a big serve and hard ground strokes,i dont suffer from any shoulder/arm issues (well not yet lol)
    im open to all suggestions as they will be logged and looked at if im struggling with those other strings.
    also im a complete newbee so all the tech stuff goes over my head but have been doing lots of reading on stringforum...
     
  39. GarryClarke

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    wish you hadnt told me that:cry:

    but i do no the PD plays just how i like because i was doing it on saturday:confused:

    also the PD is stock strung (addiction) from the factory so havent got a clue on tension but all i no (stringforum)is it isnt very durable,i played for 3 hrs fine and the next outing (last night) it was utter pants....
     
  40. LanEvo

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    Wait, you did not get to pick tension? I know when I got mine, TW has it posted strung free with said strings, one being Addiction, and you got to pick the tension.

    As wel, once you find the string setup, you can start experimenting with lead to add stability, such as a few grams at 3&9 and so forth, I prefer my racquets stock, so I will not be customizing most likely, that and I don't have any lead tape.
     
  41. GarryClarke

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    i didnt get an option on string tension as i brought it through a small company at a very very good price.
    plus if i did get an option i wouldnt of had a clue!!!!!!
    all i can do is try a few different string,s suggested and go from there.
    just wish i knew what it was strung at as it was perfect:cry:
     
  42. Yourtenniscoach

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    If anyone's interested, I have to 2012 Pure Drive + frames for sale in the classifieds section.
     
  43. mawashi

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    No worries, take it slow. The PD is an easy stick to work with, lower tensions, thinner strings... no biggie and lucky for you msv is cheap there.
     
  44. aceprojesus

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    Black Drive or Black Drive +

    Trying to decide which one to buy. Anyone try both out? Looking for a racquet to replace my newly broken Exo3 Black. Preferably w/ a little more power and spin/better for serving.
     
  45. Korso

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    Strung the PDR up with some Tecnifibre Multi-Feel at 62lbs and suprisingly it plays really well. These strings soften the racket up and have some nice control with groundies and volleys. Serves are nice too, having fun throwing some kickers on the ad side and slices on the duece. Drop shots were decent. Overall I like this a lot more than my usual poly/synthetic or full poly set up.
    Just ordered some klip legend and I am going to cross them with cofocus 53/50. I have a feeling I am going to like this set up a lot more. I have been eager to try this setup on the PDR.
     
  46. LanEvo

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    I am still torn between the PDR+ and the PD+. I will take them out again tomorrow and hopefully decide on something.
     
  47. GarryClarke

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    thats exactly what i thought when i played saturday,effortless power and the spin was great.
    played tuesday nite and the PD was seriously hard work!!!!!!

    was it me??????

    and yes MSV is dirt cheap so can restring as often as i like lol

    gonna give the PD another outing on saturday before a restring plus im gonna go on your suggestion of lead at 3/9 oclock to see if that ups the power.

    i no this stick is perfect for me in every way and i love it...
     
  48. mawashi

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    I think I know what is the problem... the poly has notched and doesn't move as smooth as before.

    I like msv as it takes more to notch it, for me it plays a lot longer well compared to tour bite.

    The surface of msv hex just seems harder then a lot of the other polys I've tried.

    If I had to choose a match poly it would be lux or tour bite but for training, friendlies and casual play, MSV is the string I'll go for.
     
  49. GarryClarke

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    again my friend youve come up trumps:)

    and how does the poly notch:confused:

    if thats what you think i will get the PD restrung later today ready for my next outing
     
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    He is talking about it going dead aka losing it's recoil-ability to snap back into place.
     

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