**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

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  1. smirker

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    So, I have read through about 30 pages of this thread to this point and based on the TW review and this thread decided to bite the bullet and get a 2012 PD. I went for the standard as my current racquets are solid but at 12oz more than I need for my mainly doubles based play. Thought the PD standard would be a good choice and already has some endorsements as a good doubles racket.

    So, a good decision? I have 1/2 a set of VS 17 left and also co-focus 17 to put in it. What tensions do you guys recommend?

    Hope I'm going to fall in love at first hit! If not, you lot are to blame!
     
  2. LanEvo

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    Thanks for upping the thread, try 56/52.
     
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    Yes the PD12 is a wonderful doubles racquet. I also recommend trying 56/52 for the gut hybrid. That is a perfect middle ground. If you generate a lot of your own power go 2 lbs higher...if you like lots of power with less effort, go 2 lbs lower. Welcome to the club!
     
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    Smirker, welcome. As the others have said, the gut /poly is good. However I believe I personally prefer full poly (alu power @ 56). I know full poly isnt for everyone and there are many on these boards who swear you don't need poly unless you are a 4.5 and constantly breaking strings. Well Im not in that class, but for me the poly provides me more control and spin and therefore the confidence to swing hard. I also like how it seems to make the racquet feel and sound more solid as well. So far no arm or shoulder problems. And it feels surprisingly comfortable.

    You should have no trouble fallinf in love, but you may have to tweak your string setup to make it perfect.
     
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    Jack. Good to see u back. What are your specs on you pd2012? Static weight, sw, balance?
     
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    cheers chaps for the words of encouragement.

    Will go 56/52 as suggested. Like the idea of the gut hybrid to provide some net feel. Full poly would be good for this frame but maybe for a more base line orientated approach in singles. Hybrid for doubles. Stringing it up tonight then playing later so will report back on how it goes.
     
  7. GarryClarke

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    welcome to the PD fold smirker

    im awaiting my 1st stringing machine and am defo going to toy with gut mains mix

    currently using black excel @56,im more than happy with this set up but would like a bit more spin!!!!!

    not going to restring till the excel is wasted as its not cheap here in the UK

    again welcome and enjoy the experiance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "bobby your the man" lol

    cheers garry
     
  8. smirker

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    Cheers Gary,

    What stringer did you go for? Got mine a couple of years ago, it paid for itself within 6 months through doing re-strings for people in my club.

    Also a godsend when a quick re-string is needed. If you haven't already then check out W&D Strings for good deals on Pro's Pro strings. They also do gut at a reasonable price.
     
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    hi smirker what re the costs of natural gut with w and d and how what brand
     
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    £21.20 for Touch/Team in 1.25 and 1.30 gauges. Bow Brand is cheaper but have no experience of that one.
     
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    although im awaiting blx pro open from TWE. I have restrung my pure drive with mantis power synthetic and crossed it with comfort synthetic, 58/54.

    after stroking a couple of tennis balls myself and a few served it feels 2-3 lbs too tight. Hopefully it will loosen up.

    I plan to have a practice tomorrow morning.
     
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    All I have tried so far is (2) 3" strips at 12', but I think I need more overall weight. The PD is feeling too light to me now that I have been playing with the Rad Pro and Pro One. The Pro One is 331 grams total and I think the PD is around 322 so I need to add another 8 g's or so. The balance of my PD right now is 4 it's HL.
     
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    You can speed up the tension loss process by carefully standing on the stringbed with one foot. Put the racquet on a soft carpet and slowly put some weight on it. Or you can just keep hitting with it and it will gradually loosen up. Another thing I have done is put the racquet on the floor, put a pot on top of the stringbed and put some weights or dumbbells inside the for and let it sit like that overnight. Sounds nutty, but it works :)
     
  14. GarryClarke

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    hi smirker

    i went for the pro,s pro challenger 1 drop weight,
    im looking forward to stringing my 1st stick and i no im gonna mess it up lol
    ive looked at so many vids on stringing and think ive got the mains (easiest bit) sussed,as for the crosses/knots im gonna have to take it slow and probably have the laptop handy with a vid showing me how to do it.

    as for strings ive narrowed it down to a few and pro,s pro is defo on the top of the list.
    got MSV and tour bite to test 1st

    i gather your in the UK as i have looked at W&D strings????

    cheers garry
     
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    Hi BC1 -

    314.68 ....... Stock PD Strung Average 11.1 oz
    - 2 ............. Rubber grip thingy removed = 312.68 / 11.0294 Oz

    The over grip and dampener are non issues, because they are not included in the factory spec. If your frame is 11.4 ounces strung, with the stock rubber thingy removed, that is 323.18 grams. So ... 323.18 minus the 312.68 average = 10.5 grams. If your scale/measurements are correct your frame is 3.5 grams over the plus or minus 7 grams factory spec. To be more precise, clip out your string the next time you need a restring, put the rubber thingy back on, and weigh it then. If it's over the 7 gram tolerance (the stock weight unstrung is in crazy small print on the hoop just above the throat) then you could get it replaced for free. It's also possible that your strings are a bit heavier than most.

    To make the most possible dif in HL balance, and adding the least amount of weight, you could put lead, silicone, or blue tac, right inside the pallet, at the very end, right where the buttcap is. If you don't want to mess about with the inside of the pallet, you could wrap some 1/4 lead around the buttcap. I like the built up feel of that, seems like it gives me more leverage somehow. Yes it would be more headlight, but, (as you know) you'd be adding weight to a frame that is already over spec.

    Also ... I think you meant Mid 320 sw not mid 220 sw. Hope this helps.

    - Jack
     
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  16. smirker

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    Yes, in the Uk Gary. Also got my stringer from W and D.

    Hit with the PD12 last night having strung it with VS Touch 1.25 crossed with RPM 1.25 at 56/52.

    Played really solidly from all areas but might add some lead for a bit more serve velocity.

    As a footnote my hitting partner broke a string so I let him have a hit with the PD. He liked it so much he's going out to buy one today! How's that for an endorsement?
     
  17. GarryClarke

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    glad you like the PD and pat your mate on the back as he has "TASTE" lol

    your combo sounds good and another one to go into my little black book

    where are you in the UK smirker????

    ive added (5g) lead to 3/9 and have no problem generating power as the PD has bags of it...

    what have you strung up at??? as the guys on here might well put you right as im still a novice when it comes to string tensions.

    im more than happy with black excel @56

    cheers garry

    just seen you have strung at 56/52 lol,what about trying 52/50 as remember the PD is a bazooka...
     
  18. smirker

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    Up in Cambridge mate. Have thought about going lower next time maybe 52/48 or thereabouts. Will add 4x4" of lead later, have a match this evening so will report how the PD fares in it's first competitive outing. If all else fails I have my trusty M-Fil also strung with gut/poly to fall back on.

    So I played my first match last night with the PD12 and it performed admirably. Much more consistent on groundies (which is what i was after) and very solid on serve/volley. I added 4x4" strips of lead starting from the 4th cross at the top and it increased power considerably. well impressed so far.
     
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  19. LanEvo

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    **** the lead tape, I put some at 12 and it ripped off the Holographic paint that is at the 12 position where it says GT Technology. Good think I still have another in perfect condition though.
     
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    why 56/52 ? it is usually 56/54
     
  21. GarryClarke

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    oh dear:(

    i did read somewhere to put electrical tape on 1st before you add the lead tape!!!!!
    ive been lucky as removed the lead tape (to weigh and put back on) from 3/9 and the paint is still intact.

    bet your gutted as i no i would
     
  22. LanEvo

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    That was me, and that was what took off the paint. It is a small bit, but once a small bit flakes it slowly starts flaking more and more.
     
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    lol and i wont be putting electrical tape anywhere near my PD!!!!!

    i had only just put the lead back on and read about your electrical tape tip!!!!

    so your now saying DONT use electrical tape or it will remove the paint lol
     
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    smirker

    we are not far away from each other and maybe when the weathers better meet up and have a knock about????

    how did the lead tape experiment go???????
     
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    LOL u guys! I found that the easy way of removing lead tape without any harm is to put one drop of lighter fluid on the edge of the lead tape. It doesn't take much to peel it off then.
     
  26. LanEvo

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    Is that the same as oil?
     
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    Idk why it did that, of all my old racquet i had in the past and I used the electrical tape nothing ever happened, the only reason I suggested it was because the lead tape sticky side will take of paint and leave residue at time. Idk why it did that with the PD.
     
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    Light kerosene.
     
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    Sounds a good idea. We have grass at our place so let me know if you fancy a hit sometime. Lead worked well as described in my edited post above. Added to power on serve but didn't unduly affect mobility which is an issue for me in doubles.
     
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    I strung my pure drive with mantis power synthetic and comfort synethetic crosses 58/54lbs. Iv had issues using poly in pure drive.

    I wonder if anyone has tried this combo as I found it comfy, controlled and also powerful enough. Full synthetic combo and had a lot of control as well as power on drives
     
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    sounds like the lead tape experiment went well!!!!
    i found it to be a pleasure in doubles,the return of serve was excellent as well as half volleys and net play.
    its really all i play now as my knee,s/pattela tendons give me grief,
    i do play a few singles but only club friendly,s.

    thanks for the offer,we have a few grass courts at our club but i like the hard court,s as the bounce is easier to read,ive only been playing a year but get tuition once a week and dont worry im not a pusher lol

    smirker the offer is returned and if you fancy a change from grass let me no.


    cheers garry
     
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    I see you have a leather grip on there, was thinking I might try that myself. Have leather on my Dunlops and it definitely enhances them. Let me know if you are ever up this way, we have hard courts too.
     
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    why does the leather grip enhance
     
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    A more solid feel in the hand as the leather molds well to the bevels. I then add with one Tournagrip. Due to the extra weight of a leather grip it makes the racquet a bit more head light (or at least neutralises the lead I add to the head). Also subjective, I just like the feel. More feed back than from a synthetic grip imo. The only caveat is that you do feel more vibration, especially from a stiff racquet.
     
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    its all personal preference. Personally I prefer a comfy synthetic grip to a hard, harsh leather grip.
     
  36. smirker

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    A chacun son gout as they say in France
     
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    Top man and will defo come and have a knock about:)

    Love my leather grip,and to be honest it's the best I've found for sweaty hands as I do suffer from that.
    I tried loads of different synthetic over grips which were supposed to be for sweaty hands and they didn't work.
    Sticking with the leather grip and it will have to be falling off before I replace it with another.
     
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    Cool, just send me a message and we'll hit the courts! Re the overgrip sweaty problem the only one I have found that does not get slippery is Tournagrip. Cheap at Sports Direct too, which reminds me; must pick up some of the Babolat dampeners they do. My red ones are just not cutting it in the PD.
     
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    You gonna sell your 300s?
     
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    good man :)

    gonna look on direct sports now....

    and believe it or not,on my old head lm8 i had to put 4 overwraps (grip 5) to get the proper fit!!!!!

    luckily the PD,s grip size comes up big and i havent had to add any overgrips,so only added the leather grip and its top notch..

    how the hell is your dampener cutting into your PD ?????

    ive got the old babolat one in yellow/black and looks cool lol
     
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    I might sell two but it's a long way to ship them from Cambridge UK to CA USA!
     
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    Lol, cutting it as in it (the red dampener)doesn't look cool with the black and blue frame:)
     
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    ahhhhhhhhhhhh i see lol :oops:

    just been on court for 2hrs playing club doubles and bloody hell it was windy!!!
    had to bomb my serves (into the wind) and F/H B/H just to get them over the net and tap them over at the other end.
    testing to say the least lol

    think the excel has bedded in now as was hitting some sweat shots/volleys/serves,
    im liking it alot:)

    also im liking the PD more and more as i play,going from a HH 112 to a HL 100 takes some getting used to,also the 5g of lead at 3/9 seems to work for me.

    am a very happy man at this moment in time.....
     
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    which poly is optimal ?

    I have been using RPM blast with this new PD and it has its pluses and minuses. I do like the decent feel on the Volleys but it seems to lack the power and penetration on the groundies. and also on the serves too. Is there a better poly out there that works better with 2012 PD ? Thank you
     
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    Lux alu power at 54 or 52. Or better yet, as previously mentioned many times in this thread, try a hybrid of vs gut mains @ 56 / Lux alu power crosses @ 54.
     
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    What do you think about Alu power rough or Alu power Spin ? would these be much different than alu power at that tension ?

    and not really sure why RPM doesn't work as well for this racket. Babolat rep said RPM blast was made for this racket.
     
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    Everybody stop feeding the troll, fedfail is back!
     
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    i wouldnt take advice from any rep as all there intrested in is selling there own product!!!!!

    there is so much advice on here on strings and i myself are going to tinker with syn gut/poly/multi as now got my own stringer.

    also been drawn to the pro,s pro range,dont be put off with the cheap cost as it gets a good review on here and stringworld.

    good luck in looking for what suits or may not suit you lol
     
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    I am looking to add some lead to my PD12 to add some plowthru and bring the swingweight up a little. I would like to hear from anyone that added lead and what the results were. I am not looking to do anything drastic...just about 10 grams total max.
     
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    The alu power rough and spin should be fine. I prefer the reg alu power though. Not sure if ive tried spin. It should make much of a difference.

    The babolat Rep is of course going to push the rpm. Its made by Babolat. I think most people agree alu power is a better poly, in any racquet.
     

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