**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

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  1. BC1

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    It's been fine. Nothing to brag about, but as good as it ever it is. The PD isn't harming it in anyway. Actually I've found when I just go for it, let it rip, and be aggressive with it, it's fairly good. It's when I'm hesitant and unconfident that I don't get much out of my back hand - but I guess that can be said for any stroke.

    Like you have said, I have found the racquet to be good in all areas - no complaints whatsoever. For once I'm not blaming the racquet!
     
  2. BC1

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    I agree, or at least lower your tension. I have found that I have had more arm trouble with some less stiff racquets that aren't as stable in the hoop as the pd. What you will find is that if you hit some flexier racquets at the tip of the hoop or way outside the sweetspot the vibrations and shock can be intense - you don't find that with the pd. Strings will make a difference in either however.
     
  3. fibonacci888

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    No money is lost since i was still testing because Babolat was slow with shipping towards my dealer. So i put the order on hold and will continue testing.

    I'll take your comments/suggestions with me, thanks!
     
  4. hydenst

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    I just switched over from the origional roddick cortex + to the new 2012 racket and I LOVE it...before that i played with the 3rd gen pure drive team plus... but i add a full pack of lead tape to my racket I divide it up equally to the 12, 9, 6, 3 o'clock positions...and i string it with the pro hurricane/nvy hybrid combo at 50lbs...all decisions i have come to love the feel of...i am a former colligate player and currant assistant collegiate coach as well as a uspta certified and i think the new frame is by far babolat's best racket out there!!!
     
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    I have the odd sensation of loving the racket and it is by far my favourite and I feel very confident with it but my on court results in proper matches are Lost 2, Drawn 1, Won 1 since I've had it! Putting is down to better opponents...maybe
     
  6. BC1

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    Wow! What an endorsement! That's great and good to hear. Thank you and welcome to the "club". Glad to see players in the upper ranks, like yourself, love it as well! Thanks for joining in.

    That's a lot of lead! What is the final weight?
     
  7. BC1

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    Intersting... Well, regardless of the results, how do you feel you're playing? How are you're shots? Lots of unforced errors? Are these players you've won against in the past? As you know, no racquet will allow you to win against a stronger/better opponent.
     
  8. DrewRafter8

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    The Black Drive is a much more solid hit for the long term. I had put silicone in the handle of my APDC+'s to make them feel solid. I've never had any arm issues with a Babolat though. I know that the RA of the Black Drive+ is higher then the APDC+ but the new cortex takes out most of the bad vibrations that the APDC+ had due to it's hollow feel.
     
  9. hydenst

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    In the end it's rt around 12.3...and only slightly handel heavy lol
     
  10. Dgdavid

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    You know the feeling when you are under pressure and your swing can shorten as you tighten up? Well, with the Prestige and to a lesser extent, the Warrior, i patch this up mid game by relying on the rackets solidity to help push deep balls back and in. In these scenarios, I am hitting long with the PD but the issue is recovering my head speed not the racket.

    I have got into a bad habit of switching power delivery from head speed to racket weight when my strokes go off and it doesn't work with the PD. But it highlights a flaw in my game.
     
  11. JackB1

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    OK I FINALLY got to hit tonite with my new Pure Drive 2012!

    The racquet was pretty easy to switch to, but it did take some time to adjust from the Warrior. The PD feels a little lighter and whippier than the Warrior with slightly less plow thru, but pretty equivalent. Power was about the same and I was surprised the power wasn't too much with my multi/poly hybrid at 58/55. I could definitely swing out and keep the ball in. You had to be careful though at times it felt like the ball would "spring" off the stringbed when you hit too flat. If you want to swing fast, you have to make sure and brush up on the ball.

    Serves were the best feature for me. It was easy to place them anywhere in the box with pace and/or spin. I was quick to adjust to serving with the PD and drilled a few aces. Groundstrokes were also nice with the PD. Punch volleys and put away floaters were easy with the PD, but touch shots were a bit of a struggle so far. For some reason I was leaving all my touch shots short, which was strange since the PD is such a powerful racquet. I just need more time to dial in drops and touch shots.

    The swingweight may need some additional weight I think? It feels a little light and lacking a little plow and weight behind the ball. Do most of you play the racquet stock or did u add some weight. Mine is 325 with overgrip and I tend to like a final weight of 330-335 grams, so I may add 5-10 grams. I think I would keep balance around what it is.

    Overall I am pretty pleased so far, but the racquet didn't "wow" me, but I think I need a little more adjusting time. I only played doubles tonite, so I didn't get to hit a whole lot of groundstrokes. I absolutely LOVE the cosmetics and the racquet looks sick with the blue and black string scheme I have. Also, I had zero arm issues or soreness with my multi/poly hybrid.

    The only negatives so far was that I seemed to miss the sweetspot towards the bottom more and got jammed. The sweetspot wasn't as large feeling as the Warrior and when you missed the middle, the ball didn't really go anywhere, but it wasn't tiny either. Just need to dial in the racquet spacing distance better...it must be slightly different than the Warrior?

    More to come....will try the PD in a competetive doubles match tomorrow and hopefully a singles league match soon.
     
  12. Bergboy123

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    I'm really struggling to get my drop shots in with my new PD :( I had a real weapon of a drop shot developed with my APD, but I've almost completely lost it now! Anybody else have this problem?
     
  13. JackB1

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    I have only had the PD for one session, but I did have a rough time with droppers and feel shots. They all seemed to land shorter than normal. Not sure yet if I just need to get more used to the racquet or not? I had no issues with drop shots with my Warrior, but that is the drawback of a powerful and stiff racquet....feel and touch shots are not as easy. Everything has it's Pros and Cons. How long have you had the Pure Drive?
     
  14. Bergboy123

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    I've had mine for a little less than a month now! And I'm having the same problem, they all go short!
     
  15. BC1

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    I totally understand what your saying, and I too have found myself falling into this style of play with all of my pds over the years. You subconsciously stop playing aggressively and just start throwing the racquet out there for easy returns. The forgiving racquet allows this, but it hurts your game. Yes, as you said, the key is to keep up the speed and don't get lazy with the footwork or swing. To play with the Pd effectively you still have to treat it like it's mores of a players raquet and take solid swings, then it can be a very effective racquet, and deadly for your opponents. I think this is why this racquet is used by all levels, from 3.0s to pros, but like with most racquets you get out of it what you put into it.
     
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  16. Hominator

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    Hi Jack, I use the 2012 PD stock, and I'm hitting with former college players who still whack the crap out of the ball. The racquet hasn't been pushed around at all. The best thing about the lighter weight compared to my X10 325s is the racquet head speed I can get from the racquet. That, plus I can shorten my strokes, which simplifies things...
     
  17. bluegrasser

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    I love the PD for doubs, but in singles or just hitting with a friend I struggle with control, hit a lot of out balls, especially with the forehand. To be fair, I have eastern grip (forehand ) con't backhand w/ little to moderate spin. I tried the Pure Storm GT, but couldn't hit my topspin lob ( best shot) with it, the racquet didn't seem to grab the ball,
     
  18. Nostradamus

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    Agree the SW was lower but it seem to help in the quick volley department so i think it is a tradeoff. but what do you think about vibration dampening of this new PD ? for some reason this one is hurting my shoulder more so than previous year's model.
    and how would you compare this one to previous Pure drive GT overall ? better or worse ? thanks
     
  19. JackB1

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    I have no experience with any prior PDs so I really can't comment on that, but I didn't notice any bad vibes in my first night with it. Could be your string setup? Try a soft multi at 60 lbs.
     
  20. clunker

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    Hello all,
    I have enjoyed reading all the comments and experiences about PD.
    I don't own one, but I do have a comment about it after demoing it last week. I also demoed every previous PD. I am a 4.5 player and like flexible racquets ( played with Volkl 10s for about 6 years). I used to look at PDs as a joke of a racquet thiking how it is impossible to play with it. I still think that EXCEPT for 2012. I liked it a lot, and on some nicely hit forehands I could feel a little flex in the racquet that almost made me giggle. It was great on returns and makes you more confident to return with some pace. Serves were consistent and powerful.
    Not buying it yet, but thinking that I might switch to it ( as surreal as it is to me) is the best evaluation I can give.
    Good luck, and thanks for the nice post.
     
  21. Power Player

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    Guys it takes two weeks minimum with a racquet before you start hitting touch shots consistently. I can hit 2 handed topspin lobs , drop shots, dtl slice approaches..whatever.

    I have hit some of my best drop shots ever with this stick. Maybe it's the RIP control as well..who knows. Get used to one setup before you judge a racquet on touch shots.
     
  22. BC1

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    I agree, not that I personally am hitting amazing drops with it yet, but I played against someone over the weekend who had the new pd2012, and he use to use an older wilson ncode, he was hitting the most amazing drops from all over the court. The racquet is definitely capable of any shot, including touch shots, when in the right hands.
     
  23. DrewRafter8

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    I've had no problems with touch either, even with full poly. I have been playing with the Black Drive+ since December though. For those having trouble, you've got to give racquet switches time. I did have an easy transition from the APDC+. It took me three months to fully adjust to the APDC+ from Vantage sticks.
     
  24. Dgdavid

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    I think I'm gonna have to get my coat I'm afraid. :cry:
     
  25. JackB1

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    why so?........
     
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    So I played a league doubles match tonite with the PD and was very pleased. I started feeling more comfortable with the racquet tonite and played almost error free tennis for the entire match. Was hitting my spots on serve and hit some killer groundstrokes passes when a sitter presented itself. Felt much more dialed in tonite with the PD and if this continues, I may have to seriously consider it for the #1 spot in my bag :)
     
  27. ATL Jack

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    Oh oh. As some of you may recall I just bought 2 warriors. But out of curiosity I just played a competitive singles match with the PD and loved it. One match is not enough of a test for me to switch, but I have a feeling I just wasted a lot of money because I didn't demo the PD earlier.
     
  28. JackB1

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    Hey I just saw you are near me in Marietta. Whereabouts do you live? We should get together for a hit. I am near Windy Hill & I-75. Send me an email thru my profile if you are interested. What level do you play at?

    BTW, I also just bought 2 Warriors and may now switch for the PD and I also live in Atlanta and also am named Jack. Is that enough coincidences? :)

    You should be able to get most of what you paid for your Warriors if you sell them in the classifieds here or on the big auction site.
     
  29. ZeroSkid

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    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooob club
     
  30. tennisnut09

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    Agreed. plus the strings.....it can take 2 months.
     
  31. Dgdavid

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    LMAO :)
     
  32. BC1

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    Can't imagine why... Considering all of the sticks you've been playing with, and liked, I would have thought this one would be perfect for you. Maybe you like a little more flex after all.? Just curious is there a certain spec of the racquet that you wish were different? I still say, don't give up on it. I had my moments earlier when I was demoing the Pd2012 where I thought for sure it wasn't going to be the racquet for me, but I am very glad I stuck with it (or came back to it). Maybe try a new string set-up even. I bet you will get over this slump.
     
  33. BC1

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    Very good! Glad to hear it. I'm feeling the same way, and am convinced I will be sticking with this one through the good and bad times. No more switching, or even demoing, for a long while. The more I play with it, the more I like it. If I'm having a bad night, I know it's me and not the racquet.

    So I guess the hybrid strings are working out ok?
     
  34. Pneumated1

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    Pun intended??:) Did you happen to catch the US Clay Court doubles championship last weekend? Former/current (not sure which) UVA standout Inglot was playing some amazing tennis with his Pure Drive, but I'm not sure which edition. All court tennis at its best with a Pure Drive, against Blake's and Querry's pace----driving bh returns of serve, sticking volleys, and showing pillow-like hands on touch shots. Interesting.

    Listening to the commentators at Monte Carlo earlier in the week talk about the paucity of "natural volleyers" in the game, only being a handful, in their opinion, but one of the first mentioned in the discussion, and arguably with the best hands and touch on the planet, was Leander Paes, sporting the Pure Drive, but unsure of what version; doesn't really matter. The guy's strength is his net game and touch, and he chooses the Pure Drive. Says a lot.
     
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    I couldnt find your email address. You can email me at atljack at ymail dot com

    I am in East Cobb off Roswell a mile or two east of Johnson Ferry. I am 3.5/4.0 player, maybe closer to 4.0 than 3.5
     
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    I think my doubts are because I am not playing well with it still overall (again last night) even though I am hitting well with it but when I pick up other sticks, I am still playing well. Starting to wonder if it is the class of racket that is making my transition painful from a consistency perspective. Moving straight to this class of rackets from heavier control sticks like the Prestige is probably a bigger adjustment that I expected rather than which racket in the class i pick.

    I played my second set last night with a Wilson 6.1 BLX 18x20 and was instantly connected to the racket and my game transformed. I then swapped with my opponent to his 2012 6.1 BLX 16x18 and everything was just clicking in the match. Never even picked up either racket before.

    ps. I plucked up courage to ask the club number 1 what his racket was and it was some ancient brown Prince graphite he has owned for years. Clearly, the racket isn't that important if you have quality!
     
  37. JackB1

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    Yes...the Xcel / Evolution combo is great. The power isn't excessive at all and I have no trouble swinging out and keeping the ball in. Might try a full set of FXP Tour next time or full NXT Control? I think as long as you go up to 58 or 60, you can do full multi in the PD.
     
  38. ArliHawk

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    Okay, I've just played twice with it and think I"m in love. Going to keep the 2011 ADPD French Open, but I think the Pure Drive is going to be the racquet of choice for me and might pick up another one.

    It's odd, because it feel like just as much spin and my forehand is much improved. Maybe it's just the honeymoon phase, but I am loving it right now.
     
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    How is that new Pure drive 107 play ? Anyone ? Babolat explains that it is not just a power frame. It can be used by advanced players with good control too. Any Experience with this mid-oversize ?
     
  40. DrewRafter8

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    I see you're using ALU, I'm thinking that's a string I'm going to try out soon. What tension are you using? I'm thinking of stringing it in the low 40's.
     
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    I have my Alu Power at 53 and the racket is pretty powerful and accurate. Isn't low 40s extremely low for this type of racket? Don't you lose a lot of control?
     
  42. DrewRafter8

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    I've strung up kevlar and full poly in the mid 40's with no problem. I don't find that I lose control, I've recently really bought into the low tensions that many have been posting about for months. Jack Sock strings at 39 in a similar stick.
     
  43. JackB1

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    Because poly has such little elasticity, there isn't that much difference between full poly at 53 and at 43. It doesn't get springboardy like low tension nylon does.
     
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    Hi all, I'm currently playing with the PDR+ does anybody added leather grip to it? Is it too stiff?
     
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    Finally got my new PD + strung up and out to the courts today. Wow. Effing awesome. Had a good long hit with my old doubles partner who's a former D1 player. We always get a good groove going so it's a perfect demo situation. It's quite a bit lighter and shorter than the 27.75" and 13.3 oz Head frame I've been using for years, but I'm def going to make the switch. Played with it stock, so its not even dialed in yet. My first Babolat ever. Who woulda thunk it. Certainly not me.
     
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    picked up some packs of NXT Control and Head FXP Tour to try out in my PD12. I think they are both combo multi/poly type of strings that will be softer that a multi/poly hybrid.
     
  47. BC1

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    Its great. I thought hard about getting one. Feels like the reg pd, but it is a little softer. I thought it did everything well, just decided to go with the reg headsize. Not sure if the extra headsize made a big difference. But it is slightly more forgiving.
     
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    Mine is at 56. Personally I think anywhere between 50-58 is good. But its all personal preference. Never tried below 54. I love this string though. For some reason it never feels uncomfortable to me. It has power and control.
     
  49. YesTennis

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    Early in this thread the Yonex VCore 98 was mentioned. Just curious if anyone could comment on the VCore in relation to the PD. Thanks
     
  50. goherd27

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    Any of you hitting this frame have arm (shoulder, wrist, or elbow) issues? Local pro reported a couple of complaints of shoulder tenderness. One person had a lingering issue, while the other developed it after an intense week of play with this racquet. Both are technically sound players.

    I also have a friend using but no issues for him. He


    Just curious
     

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