**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by BC1, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. Dgdavid

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    I did mean for you personally rather than in general. For me, the Warrior is distinctly preferable but people are different. I have to be careful of nostalgic views though. I went back to the IG Prestiges briefly due to fond memories of heavy flat winners but quickly remembered why I sold it first time round! Pretty settled with the Exo3 Graphites now but Warrior still keeps popping into my head. £90 on SportsDirect so might pick one up. Paid £152 each first time round.
     
  2. Nostradamus

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    Something is wrong with my pure drive 2012

    Ok i had this PD 2012 for about 3 month now. Playing with it about 2-3 times per week, strung about once per week.
    I have scraped and scratched on cement many times on normal course of play. but i am now noticing something very odd. I am losing control. Balls are flying out at odd times for no reason. Control on this racket is Gone.

    I have looked for cracks but can't find any obvious ones. Please help. IS this defective racket ? and if so, what should i do ?
     
  3. JackB1

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    Sounds like you need to restring and up the tension 2-4 lbs. Balls tend to fly in the summer, plus your technique might be getting lazier in the heat.
     
  4. Nostradamus

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    I restrung with fresh string 2 days ago with tension up 7 lbs. and balls were flying still everywhere over the baseline. so i am sure what to do now ? Is this defective ?
     
  5. mary fierce

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    .....balls fly on me sometimes. Must be a defective racquet!!
     
  6. Nostradamus

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    This is more recent. first 2 month of use, racket was heaven, awsome control and power. Now last 3-4 weeks, balls are flying out over the baseline about 30 % more of the time. I increased the tension and string new fresh string in every week.

    Nothing helps. Does Babolat replace these defective frames ? and is it defective ?
     
  7. Ross K

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    Any of you previously (or still do) use the old PD Swirly (2nd generation)? Just wondering what ppls thoughts are on how it stacks up against all the other versions, 2012 included. I know someone who maintains it is still the 'best' PD they ever made, a tad more solid, etc.
     
  8. Nostradamus

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    i used the old swirly version years ago. it is very solid and powerful racket. Very stiff not very arm friendly. Control was very good for such a powerful racket.
    Compared to 2012 version, i prefer the 2012 version. Much lighter Swing weight and you can custmize it to however you like it. I like it as is with lighter swing weight.
    Didn't like the High swingweight of old version, not much room for customizing.
     
  9. Korso

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    Check your grommets :) Babolots grommets are not very durable especially at the tie offs.
     
  10. BC1

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    Not sure why I gave it up. I think it was more a lack of confidence in my ability to play under pressure with it. The pd just instills confidence in me that I have a hard time giving up. I also started questioning the weight of the 95d. Sw was fine, but the static weight with overgrip and dampner was 12.3. Didn't feel that heavy though. Anyway, it was more of a mental think and less of an actual performance thing. I am wondering "what if " and wishing I would have given it a chance. I actually think I would have been just as happy or happier with the 98d as well and wish I would have given that one a real chance. But I cant look back now. Sticking with the pd.
     
  11. BC1

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    David, yes I think it is starting to click a little. I like the rpm18 in the pd2012 and the control is good. With my ohbh its all about preperation and confident follow through. Just going for it! When I do that it is fine, even with the pd. Actually yesterday it was very good for me. I was making some very nice topspin across court winners. Which is very rare for my backhand.

    You mentioned how sometimes a racquet doesn't live up to your fond memories of it (IG Prestige) . Well since you are asking about the warrior, I had the same experience with it when I re demoed it recently. It didn't seem near as nice as I remembered it. I couldn't connect with it at all.
     
  12. BC1

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    I honestly don't think it is the frame, not sure if it is even possible. I would change your strings (again), maybe something entirely differently and morepp control oriented. And of course it may be your stroke, as strange as if may seem, maybe you're doing something differently and not even realise it.
     
  13. Doc Hollidae

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    Dear Babolat:

    I think my racket is defective. I missed this backhand volley in the 2009 Wimbledon Finals that would have clinched the second set. The ball just went out. The first set and a half the racket played beautiful, but then I missed and then lost the match. Can you please send me a new racket to replace this defective one?

    Thanks,

    ARod
     
  14. Hankenstein

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    I just tried the 2012 PD for the first time today. Strung with MSV Focus Hex 1,27 at 50 lbs.

    Very positive response i must say!! The new active cortex must do some serious **** because it felt much more solid and almost a bit muted compared to the previous versions. I can also compare with the APDGT that feels more hollow in stock version compared to the 2012 PD.

    I will try again tomorrow and then do a test with about 15 grams of silicon inside the handle (will do a non-permanent solution with first inserting a small part from a plastic bag and then inject the silicon into it. When the test is over, just use a cork-screw and pull the silicon out) and see how the PD2012 is with this setup.

    My current sticks, the APDGT has about 20 grams of silicon inside the handle and it transforms those sticks to a really solid frame!
     
  15. aYellowBall

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    Black Drive +. Dang, that stick is amazing.
     
  16. stronzzi70

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    :)make me happy...
     
  17. Nostradamus

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    Jack, what is a poly string with NRG2 hybrid that will provide stiff string bed ? i acutally like boardy feel than trampoline like feel.
     
  18. snoflewis

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    just a quick question. when buying a new PD 2012, i remember the demos i had came with a black cardboard sleeve at the handle under the shrink wrap. do they still come with the sleeve? i've been seeing some even on these forums with the little cardboard sleeve that said either "active cortex" or "babolat" but just wnated to make sure.

    thanks.
     
  19. BC1

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    Not sure if this is a serious question or not, but I'll bite.

    The cortex system is not a "sleeve". It is not removable. And yes, this Active Cortex "technology" is on all pd2012s. It is part of the racquet. FWIW, it really seems to work - eliminating vibrations and making the stiff racquet seem less stiff and more comfortable then you would think. It seems to be more then just a marketing gimick.
     
  20. snoflewis

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    i think you misunderstood my question.
    what i was asking was, is there a little cardboard piece saying "cortex active technology" under the shrink wrap on all new PD2012 rackets? or was that only during the first batches? the demos i received were brand new and had that card, but the one I bought off someone didn't have them. so i was wondering if anyone who has bought one recently has noticed it?

    i wasn't asking about the actual technology itself or the rubber/plastic piece that is part of the active cortex tech. i'm talking about a little card under the shrinkwrap on top of the actual grip fo the racket.
     
  21. BC1

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    Sorry. My Bad. I understand now. I'm not positive, but I think all the 2012 pds I've seen HAVE had that carboard insert.

    However, I know a retailer who just got some 2012pds in as "demos" from Babolat, and those pds did NOT have that cardboard insert under the shrinkwrap. It didn't even occur to me till now. They were stringing one up for a friend and we weighed it after with shrinkwrap. It definitely did not have the cardboard. Interesting. Maybe Babolat packages their demos differently (which makes sense becasue they aren't supposed to go on the shelf to be sold). So, maybe you got one that was intended as a demo.
     
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  22. snoflewis

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    thanks for the input.

    it seems liek the one i will be getting has just the syntec grip right under the shrinkwrap. i may have to make a trip to the local tennis shop to see if all the PDs are this way. thanks again.
     
  23. BC1

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    It seems like there still might be some confusion here... that cardboard piece you are referring to is just a "marketing piece" promoting the fact that the 2012 PDs have "active cortex".

    IF YOU INDEED DO HAVE A 'REAL' 2012 PD THEN YOU ARE FINE. It shouldn't matter if the cardboard promotion is under the shrink wrap (above the replacement grip) or not. all you will do is throw it away with the shrink wrap.
     
  24. GarryClarke

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    my 2012 PD came with a card under the shrink wrap and i no 100% it came straight from babolat in france:)
     
  25. snoflewis

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    i dont understand what confusion there might be. I know it's a marketing piece. i was asking if anyone got any without the cardboard promo. that's all. because based on my experience, they had the cardboard promo, but i was trying to see if anyone got any without it.

    regardless, thanks for the info.
     
  26. SweetH2O

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    Bought my new 2012 PD a couple of weeks ago from a local well known shop and there wasn't any cardboard thing under the plastic wrap.
     
  27. snoflewis

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    awesome. thanks.
    seems like only the first run of rackets had them...
    that's always good to hear.
     
  28. BC1

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    Yes, that makes sense. Mystery solved. Enjoyed your pd!
     
  29. RollTrackTake

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    Ha! But seriously are any Babs actually made in France? Pro stock or the like?
     
  30. BC1

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    Jackb1, I have a bag question. I believe I read a while back where you got the 12 pack babolat team bag (one of the news ones) . Do you find this bag too big? I have an older one, but its a 9 pack. Thinking about getting a new one and for 10 extra dollars the 12 pack seems to be the better deal and a nicer bag, but I don't want it to be too big and cumbersome to lug around. The 9 pack actually seems small. Two racquers a towel or two and an extra t-shirt and over grips and its full. Do you know if there is a big difference between the two? Are you happy with yours? At least were you happy before you defected to Volkl?! :)

    Anyone else have experience with the babolat team 12 pack?
     
  31. JackB1

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    Yes I LOVE the 12 pack team bag. Its definitely not too big. 2 end racquet pockets that can fit 2 in each and a large middle pocket. It seems to be the same size as most other 6 pack bags...just compare the dimensions. Go for it. Its not too cumbersome at all and the back straps world nicely and the bag hugs your back very comfortably for long walks to the court. Only negative is just one of the 2 racquet pockets are thermal, but on hot summer days I'll only take 2 racquets to the courts and use the other pockets for extra towels, shirts and sweatbands.
     
  32. AlfaAce

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    This has probably been answered but it's too consuming to go through 77 pages of posts.

    Has anyone here put a full bed of natural gut in their PD? If so, what tension? Results?
     
  33. NE1for10is?

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    Yes, I have tried it at 57, which is good ,and 58 lbs is my current preference. Good spin, control and power. (and I've tried every other string combo and tension including mono, poly and hybrids). I tried it initially with the new VS Touch with BT7 and it was too stiff for me, so I would recommend either Wilson or Pacific gut.

    I would like to try it at 60 lbs soon, so if anyone has any feedback on full gut at 60 please let me know.
     
  34. AlfaAce

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    Thanks for your reply NE1for10is. I just ordered two PDs with VS Touch 16 at 60lbs. Will report back after a few rounds.
     
  35. AlfaAce

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    Played for 75 minutes today with my 2 new PD racquets strung with 100% VS Touch 16. Loved it! No elbow pain at all :). 60lbs seems good for now (plenty of power and great control). If it loosens up in the next few days I'll try 62 lbs next.
     
  36. NE1for10is?

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    Good to hear. All the new VS Touch now has BT7 in it, which makes it stiffer than it used to be, so if you want a softer feel you might also try a gut without BT7 in it like Pacific or Wilson.
     
  37. GarryClarke

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    It's nice to hear that the PD plays well with a full bed of nat gut.
    I've got a second PD coming in the next few days so I can play around with strings and a full bed of nat gut sounds worth a try but will go with pacific classic 16/17 gauge

    Looks like everyone has jumped the PD ship:(
    But I did think of trying something else as I did have a few arm/elbow/shoulder issues but they have healed now and I'm playing well at the moment with no pains.

    Cheers Garry
     
  38. BC1

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    ^^^^No jumping ship for me, still with the pd. Just been too busy with work and family to play much. My TW time has been limited as well unfortunately. Hope to get back into both soon. I think the pd users are still out there, just not posting.
     
  39. tennismonkey

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    is there any version of the pure drive (cortex, GT, 2012 version, etc) that is arm friendly? i'm tempted to give these a shot but worried i'll mess up my arm.

    figure i'll be stringing them with poly/syn gut hybrid.
     
  40. BC1

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    I think the concensus is the PD2012 is the most arm friendly. However, that's not to say it is arm friendly for all. There's no debate that it IS a stiff racquet. However, the new cortex and woofer systems seem to do a great job at softening it up. There's no vibrations and for me personally the pd has never caused arm discomfort - and I always use poly. Maybe I've just been fortunatue, but I think it is more comfortable then many frames that have a lower flex rating. A person's stroke and technique has a lot to do with arm problems as well, and everyone's different. If you keep the tension on the low side you will probably be fine.
     
  41. JackB1

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    Agree that the 2012 PDs are the most arm friendly ever.

    As far as "jumping ship", I did sell my std PDs but still have one PDR. I do prefer the extra weight and plow of the PDR to the PD, but I have been using the Volkl Organix 8-315 the past 3 weeks and have grown to really like it. I heard it was similar to the PDR in specs, but swung a little lighter, so I checked it out and right out of the gate, I was serving better than ever. Yes there was a definite "honeymoon" period, but I think I may be going with the X8 for a while. But keep in mind, a "while" for me is around 3-6 months :)

    As far as any others on my radar...I want to check out the new Extreme MP and also may give the Youtek Prestige Pro another go, as I am now used to heavier weight.
     
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  42. Nostradamus

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    do you guys feel in stock form, this racket is too head heavy and wish it was more head light ? i am talking about pure drive 2012 and PD 2012 plus.
     
  43. YesTennis

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    Jack- Just wondering if you think your current string setup would work well with a standard Pure Drive( poly/multi or multi/poly). Also, how do you think it would play in comparison to the full bed Xcel you used with the PD?
     
  44. JackB1

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    I mostly used a full bed of xcel with the PD to soften things up. Yes a poly/multi would work with the PD. It would give you more spin and control than full multi. But also less power and comfort.
     
  45. GarryClarke

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    hi Bobby

    glad youve still got the PD as i did think you had moved on and work/family comes before anything in my book:)

    im now spending more time than ever on here but in the string section lol
    im trying to digest as much info as i can so to make the right string choices
    im currenty using Yonex Poly Tour Spin (blue) so goes nicely in the PD,it has played very well for me with loads of topspin and control,a bit low powered so am going to string mid 40,s on my second PD when it arrives!!!!

    im now trying Yonex Poly Tour 125 52/50(neon yellow) and believe it or not it looks better than the blue in the PD,
    i havent hit with it yet so i cant comment but it has more power than the YPTS so going to post my findings after a few hours hitting on saturday.

    i was going to purchase the Yonex Vcore 100s as a second racket instead of another PD but after some good advice ive now gone against that,a shame as i would have liked to have seen how it played against the PD plus i like the girly colours lol


    cheers garry
     
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  46. tennismonkey

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    thanks BC and Jack. will put the 2012 PD on my demo list. i can usually tell within the first shanked forehand if the racquet is gonna hurt. i realize hitting cleanly in the sweetspot more often would probably be easiest fix. for me that's a lifelong challenge.
     
  47. AlfaAce

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    I was having some serious elbow problems using my old Head racquet with old strings (as in... hitting for 45 minutes and barely being able to put my hand on the steering wheel of my car to drive home!).

    When I switched to the PD with full bed of gut (after taking 2 weeks off to let my elbow heal)... it was like... elbow problems?!?! What elbow problems?!?! :)
     
  48. nguyendat9

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    Hi, I have PDR grip 4 1/4, I am looking for even smaller grip 4 1/8. I would like to trade if you also looking to increase from L1 to L2. Thanks.

    Again PDR 4 1/4 for PDR 4 1/8.

    email: nguyendat9@gmail.com
     
  49. asiank90

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    Sorry if this has already been covered in this thread, but has anyone compared the 2012 pure drives to the pure drive team, this is the one that I am referring to

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  50. psycho0

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    I'm finding the PD 2012 to be a tad sluggish and headheavy especially on groundstrokes.

    Where do you guys recommend I add weight to make it swing lighter? Buttcap or 7" from buttcap?
     

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