**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

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  1. franks

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    I have added 3/8 oz fishing weight against the buttcap on my PD 2012, and it swings beautifully. I like my racquets to be 6-8 pts headlight because I play a lot of doubles and when I play singles I play an all-court game. Adding weight against the buttcap makes a racquet quite manoeuvrable, just the way I like it.

    Hope this helps
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  2. JackB1

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    end of the buttcap will make it the most headlite
     
  3. raging

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    This was a really good frame, despite a lot being very keen on the swirlys,
    I switched contracts from Head to babolat with this racket.
    This frame is more "hollower sounding" than 2012 & definitely played different.
    I like the new frame though & think the paintjob works.
    The technology also makes it more of a tweener & comfortable for older players. Young guns should lead them up or Pure Storm it!
     
  4. GarryClarke

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    a couple of pics of my pure drives (could someone please help me with posting pics)
    my PD on the left is strung with yonex poly tour 125 @ 52/50
    my second PD is strung with yonex poly tour spin/pro's pro white syngut at 46/50 now all i need to do is go hit with it as only strung it tonight.

    http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/juliegarry/2a8d91deadbd82724964e63c981f73aa.jpg

    http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/juliegarry/da802a615e6c3fbfe56a3e6a93e93f34.jpg

    again any help with posting picture would be appreciated

    cheers garry
     
  5. WhereIsMacMac

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    Planning to string mine with the babolat Hybrid Hurricane Tour XCel 16 String, any tension recommendation?
     
  6. Sreeram

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    After all the hype here I hit with PD2012 on recently and I did not feel any different from the previous versions of PD. Still felt stiff. May be the new cortex is cutting out some viberation, did not feel that jaring effect, but other than that there is a clear lack of feel.
     
  7. CycloneSh0t

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    Hi there i love to put my input into this thread,
    I'm currently using 2 Pure drive lites, both were leaded up from 290 to 322grams with overgrip and babolat custom dampener. Both are 8 points as well. i had put the lead on 3 and 9 and inside the handle.
    The racquet swings magnificent, it was headlight enough to be quick at net to put away volleys (nets not a strength of mine, but this racquet definately was not fluttering up there).

    At the baseline, the racquet was quick enough to react easily on fast serves. after 3-4 hour sessions my arm was holding up fine, no fatigue i felt from my previous racket (pure drive roddick standard). The spin i can generate is monsterous (for my standards anyway). I use to hit a pretty flat ball that would only bounce up to the waist height of someone thats 5'3-5'6. Now my groundies launch up towards their heads or towards the shoulder's of some 6'0 players. i was able to angle it to the sides, drive it deep with spin, flatten it out, slice to remain neutral in the rally.The racquet is just so whippy that the spin was massive. though i did change my grip from eastern/semi western to between semi western and western. Though even with that spin i was able to flatten my shots out, sure they sail long from time to time but that's more my fault than the racquet.

    Serve i did not feel i lost any mph in comparision to the roddick, if anything i feel that i can serve longer, without fatigue. Sure the serve was not as heavy as before but if you can hit your spots with speed an hour or so into your session, i think i'd take that than double faulting or popping in a attackable serve for your opponent due to the sheer weight of the racquet.

    the only con i can give to the racquet was that i lost touch, either i haven't gotten use to it or its the strings or even my technique. but i was not able to
    hit my drop shots with regularity at all. My drop shot attempts are landing far too deep almost to the service line, it leads the a very attackable shot for my opponent. Though its not really in my style use touch. i feel the pros outweight the cons

    Btw i love all the white thats on the racquet, from the bumper to the grip to the grommets, i'm over the full black concept, the white is a great contrast to the rest of the black on the racquet. Also, not a lot of people use the lites anyways soo to me i have the most unique pure drive on the courts

    i'm using it with babolat revenge 17g on both racquets strung at 51lbs
     
  8. CycloneSh0t

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    i agree i found that 7-8 points headlight pds feel amazing, soo whippy and yet still stable
     
  9. WhereIsMacMac

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    How would the Babolat Hybrid Hurricane Tour XCel 16 String compare to a full bed of XCel 17

    Sorry guys, I'm new here. Kinda new to the sport too :oops:
     
  10. levy1

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    Mark me down as a new member. Two matched on the way from TW. I loved the demos. Had it down to the Juice 100 and the PD 2012. Could not volley with the Juice but had a better snap in the serve. The PD was just so much more solid and hit a very penetrating ball both in the serve and base line shots. Volleys are magic? Hope someone can help me with string and tensions.
     
  11. levy1

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    So, it needed 21 grams to change it 2 points HL?
    BTW is there a trap door in the but cap?
     
  12. levy1

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    I thought it was perfect but I will be adding weight to the but cap just to see if it improves the racket. I generally like 8-10 pts HL but I am having no maneuverability or serve issues with this racket. A good way to experiment is to add lead tape to the outside of the but cap and use clear tape over it about 1/4 inch up the handle in a x pattern and then use a thin over grip. That way you can play around with the weight.
     
  13. tennisnut09

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    Hi Daniel,
    How does it play with leather grip? Can you tell the SW and balance point?

    Thank you!
     
  14. YesTennis

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    Regular PD vs. PD Roddick- How to decide? Any help making the decision? It seems that quite a few of the regular PD players add some lead, so why not go for the Roddick and play it stock? Is the Roddick more stable? Any problems with the increased SW? It seems the TW playtesters all thought the Roddick was an amazing racquet. Appreciate any thoughts in advance.
     
  15. lynnbart

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    I'm wondering the same about the PD and the PDR in terms of the weight. Would love to hear from anyone that his played with both.

    My son has 2 PD's and I have a PDR headed this way. If we like the weight of the PDR, can you lead up a PD to make it play similar ?
     
  16. JackB1

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    They are pretty far apart...about a full oz in static weight and about 15-20 pts in swingweight. It all depends on your preferred swingweight. I found the reg PD a little too light and the PDR was at the top of my range. I prefer around 11.5 oz and would lead up the PD to around 330 grams.
     
  17. TennisMD

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    I asked this question in regard to the pure storm( very light) if weighted up and kept same balance would it play like a tour answer yes but did so and felt different to me
     
  18. TennisMD

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    Should add I asked the TWU Professor
     
  19. levy1

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    You just have to get the demos and try them. You can play with the demos and add weight and then you will know what to order. The PD plus was not maneuverable enough for me on hard courts. The PD 2012 is just right although I am used to hitting with 10pt HL I am really getting good plow through and additional pop on my serve with a very crisp volley. I knew the SW would be to light for me so I paid TW the extra $10 had the rackets matched and found 2 at 324 SW and 2Pts HL. My game is on top with these rackets strung with Gut at 62 and 59. I will play around with lead a little just to see if I can enhance them but for now they are perfect. I can only use about 8 grams after head tape and over grip so I don't go over my perfered weight.
     
  20. YesTennis

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    Thanks. Interesting that you're playing full bed gut. Could you expand on this a little. There's talk that full be but might be too powerful in this racquet. It seems that a lot of people like this racquet with gut/poly to "soften things up a little" in a relatively stiff frame, but I haven't read anyone using full bed gut. I'm sure its great for your arm and durable. Appreciate your thoughts in advance.
     
  21. levy1

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    My shoulder became a little sore so I decided to move to the Pro Kennex 5G even though I love a stiff racket. I am 64 and play a very aggressive 3.5 USTA game.I am a part time stringer and I have probably strung 40 different setups (not with this racket) for myself. My best setups for me are 40/38 poly and 50 Gut 46-48 Poly. I have been using these setups for myself and several players on USTA teams. Almost all of the players I string for are 3.5-4.0 so you know their game is more control then power although the top 4.0s do have power and control. I happened to borrow a PD Plus I was stringing for a player and really liked the way the racket played so I had the itch to demo rackets again, I am somewhat of a racketacholic and change every year or two. After extensive demos my first choice was Wilson Juice Pro until I moved from clay to hard courts and then I could not get the racket around for a setup and realized it was not maneuverable enough for me. My next choice the Juice 100 but no matter what I tried I could not volley with that racket. When I demo I can change strings, tension, and add lead to really dial in the racket. My third choice was the PD 2012 and I was playing at a higher level and getting remarks from players like, "best you ever served" or your ball is so deep I am having trouble returning it". The string was Wilson nxt strung at 58 and I was very surprised I liked it because I play at lower tensions. I then strung the free addiction that comes with the racket at 60 and 58 and and absolutely played my best tennis. I order two matched rackets so I could get a higher SW (324) and decided to try full gut at a high tension (for me) and strung full at 62 and 60. So far after around 10 sets it is perfect.
     
  22. levy1

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    When I read a post on tension or strings I need to know what level the player is. I do not have a lot of power or the top spin generated by4.0 and up players. So if a player says he is trying to tame the power what level does he play? Then I can get some relevance on what I need to try.
     
  23. Nostradamus

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    yea, i agree, balance isn't bad. Only thing is the stability of the head. When you are returning really heavy spin serve or heavy topspin groundie, the head seem to lose stability and lose control. This can be very annoying.
     
  24. levy1

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    At my level I don't see any of the above. Of course I am getting some hard service returns with no problem but these are from 3.5 and 4.0s. I do not think that is the level you are talking about.
     
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    I am talking about 4.5 level. Also, stability seem to be worse if you are using heavy balls like Dunlop brand. Heavy topspin pushes around this racket somewhat. I thought about adding more lead to the head but then if i do, it will take away from Manuverability of the racket so it is a double edged Sword.:(
     
  26. tennisnut09

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    Does anyone have this PD with a replacement leather grip? Can you help with your opinion on how does it play? stability, power...etc...
    Thanks!
     
  27. McEnborg

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    Guys, two questions about eh 2012 Pure Drive.

    1) how much lead do I have to add at the cap to make it an additional 2 points head light?
    2) how do I put the lead tape on the butt cap? Still not sure how to do it? Do I have to take butt cap off?
     
  28. levy1

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    I have been studying this dilemma because I have always liked rackets around 8-10 pts HL so I am playing very well at 2 pts HL but I want to make sure I can play around with the HL a little. My maximum weight on a racket is 11.8 (334 grams). With full gut 16ga (which is heavy for string), head tape, over grip I am at 11.6 or 329Grams. That only gives me about 5 grams to play with. BTW I ordered the Babalot head tape and it is longer then I normally use. I saved 3 grams going back to my regular plain black tape. I have modified a racket almost all ways possible but reading one of the top posters he cut the grommet strip in the head to make a racket more HL. It looks to me like I can shave or drill a lot of material out of the grommet strip in the head. I am going to try a little weight in the butt just to see if I would like a little more HL but right now I am hitting so good I will wait and maybe not at all. I definitely am going to try a few grams in the head because of all the positive posts.
     
  29. levy1

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    1. 4-6 grams on my scale.
    2. You don't, not yet. 1/2 in lead tennis tape is 1/2 gram to 1 inch. I buy lead in the golf store which is heavier, 1 gram= 1 inch. Which ever one you use mash it up so it fits on the but cap. Take scotch or packing tape and make a x with the tape going up the grip about 1/4 or so. Then put on a over grip so you cannot feel the tape. This way you can undo the over grip and add and subtract the amount of lead. When you know how much weight you want to use you open the but cap stuff it with cotton and the lead tape, add hot glue and you are finished. I am so nuts with this stuff I actually went to a coin store and found a really fancy coin to tape on the end of the buttcap but coins are very heavy so unless you want to add a lot of grams this is not the way but very fancy!
     
  30. Nostradamus

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    Cut the Grommet strip out of the head ? you mean the head guard ? The Head guard comes off the grommet, it is 2 piece. so why would you cut it out ? If you take off the headguard and leave the grommet in place and put a babolat head tape on for protection then that actually takes off alot of weight off the head.

    I was afraid to do this with 2012 because head is already unstable and don't know what will happen if you take off the headguard ?
    but off the 2011 pure drive GT, if you take off the head guard, that actually works out real well on making the head more head light.

    I am a big fan of 10-12 points headlight rackets.
     
  31. JackB1

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    many ways to add weigh to the butt end...

    -put the tape along the handle lengthwise, under the grip
    -put the tape around and around the butt end on the handle (for more polarization), under the grip
    -put something inside the handle after you remove the buttcap...I have used pennies, rubber bracelets, rolled up leadtape, fishing weights. MAke sure its secure and won't move around.
     
  32. lynnbart

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    To alter a PD to make it more in line with a PD Roddick would I need to add weight to the handle or somewhere on the head of the racket ?

    Sorry for the question, but I've never used tape or tried to change the weight of a racket....
     
  33. WhereIsMacMac

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    I was about to ask the same question :shock:
     
  34. JackB1

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    It will never be the same as a PDR no matter how you add the lead, but to copy the weight and balance you would need to add the net difference in grams to both the hoop and handle but adding about 65% of it to the handle.. I would start with 10 grams on the handle and 4 at 3/9.
     
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    what strings do you use with your 2012 pd ? rpm blast doesn't seem to work. i string it at 62 lbs and even then it becomes too loose after 1 hour or 1 set of hard hitting
     
  36. JackB1

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    if poly at 62 lbs is too powerful for you then either
    1- you need a less powerful racquet
    2-your technique isn't sufficient to use topspin to bring the ball down into the court
    3-stringing could be suspect
     
  37. tennisnut09

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    Seen quite a few adding lead to the handle to increase weight but no one using the leather replacement grip to increase weight???
     
  38. lynnbart

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    Thanks....I realize that I won't be able to copy the Roddick exactly, but if we do like it I would like to be able to help the PD's for awhile.

    I didn't even think about weighting in the handle...
     
  39. JackB1

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    leather grip is a good way to add weight to the handle, but not everyone likes the feel of leather. I prefer a cushiony grip myself and don't like the hard harsh feel of leather grips.
     
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    Any PD users ever try the Donnay Formula 100 as well? I played with one tonite and came away very impressed.
     
  41. levy1

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    Sorry, never done a PD and I did not know it was 2 Piece. I can trim it or drill holes in it. I wish I would have known before I strung the rackets.
    Thanks
     
  42. levy1

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    Great answer Jack and spot on!
     
  43. GarryClarke

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    Am still swinging away with pd,s and still loving them,

    I got a good second hand yonex ezone 100 to try out and it's 1st outing wasn't very good,don't if it was me or the racket/strings as my shots were hitting the fence lol, but I've now strung up pro supex big ace @52/50 which I now have in one of my pd,s and 1 st impressions its very good but time will tell as I've only had 30 minutes swinging time so far,on court Sunday morning for 2 hrs of doubles so will give the yonex a good testing with fresh strings but will have my pd for backup in case it goes pear shaped,I'm hoping I like the yonex as its just different but again time will only tell!!!!


    Cheers Garry
     
  44. LanEvo

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    Well, I am still with my PDRs, I have a Std. and a Plus version to switch between.
     
  45. GarryClarke

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    i wonder if we can get people who are still using there pd,s to post updates???
    i no a lot have moved on from them but it would be nice to hear from the!!!

    cheers garry
     
  46. Federerkblade

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    garry

    did you ever try blackout with your pure drive ? if so what tension and also what were your thoughts
     
  47. NE1for10is?

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    Still use it and love it more than ever.
     
  48. Ross K

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    Just curious, any of you PD users hit with anything else that compares to it in the serve dept? I'm looking to move on to or at least check out other similarish frames, ones that give me a bit more serve pop than my APD, as long as they aren't too harsh.

    Saying that, I also have to add I had a little hit with an old PD Team and was pleasantly surprised to find the stiffness didn't bother me. I'm getting that restrung anyhow, so will look more at that and see how my arm fares.
     
  49. GarryClarke

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    hi Federerkblade

    yes i did try blackout in the mains and pro's pro syngut in the crosses @ 50/54
    i wasnt over keen with it and it felt too low powered and had a lack of spin!!!
    control/volleys were good but the lack of power effected my serves so it got cut out pronto,i didnt see any point in trying different tensions as it wasnt the string for me.

    cheers garry
     
  50. Federerkblade

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    you didnt wanna try black out fullbed based on that experience i guess
     

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