**The PURE DRIVE 2012 Forum (club)**

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by BC1, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. LanEvo

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    Ok guys, I need a new switch, my frames with Hollow Core Syn. Gut (As others say... Hollow Crap) is not working at all!! I lost 3 matches, in 3 weeks, and threw myself out of contention for playoffs with it. With the Syn. Gut, I got good power, but no control on my serves and hit long on a lot of my shots.

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    Lux Savage Green
    Lux Adrenaline
    Kirsh. Pro Line X
    Klip K-Boom
    Genesis Heptonic
    NRG2
    NXT
    Donnay Multi.

    Which one of these? And what tension, recommendations please...??
     
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  2. Nevals

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    Why two PD 2012 are not the same weight. Shuld I ask seller in tennis shop that he put racket on the weight scales? I have one PD 302g and now I need one more and I don't know shuld I ask seller to measure weight.
     
  3. Francis27

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    Woo! just ordered my babolat pure drive gt 2012 :)
     
  4. KarmaKorps

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    Pure Drive Sans Roddick

    Yes, I have definitely experienced it. I put a lot of time on the 2012 Roddick + . When using this stick (12.0 oz w/overgrip), I had bizarre breakdowns with my forehand - I lost a lot of matches because of it. The weight, extra length, and power was just too chaotic and I felt inhibited. It had to stop.
    I went back to my Dunlops for a bit, but then started hitting with a regular (cortex, pre-GT) Pure Drive, and found my game again. I have two of them, thankfully.

    With the Roddick +, I served huge, had a decent back hand and slice, and enjoyed the stability of it for serve blocks and volleys, but the vast majority of the time, I'm in a position just inside the baseline with plenty of time to rip a forehand and I need to feel the freedom to rip. The Roddick + always seemed to warn me to be careful in those moments.

    Look, it's frustrating, but the fact is that my confidence comes from a complete lack of hesitation to whip my frame around. Starting with lighter weight, and carefully adding lead -- that saved me. My PDs are weighted to 11.6 oz (lead at 3 & 9). Guess my sig needs an update...
    The regular PD is not as stiff, has a lower swingweight, and it's light enough to whip. I instantly started winning, and I felt completely different on the court. I took a lot of matches 6-2, 7-6 (or 7-5) just because I got over confident in the 2nd set and started to muscle.
    For me, what worked is to fix the mental issue, somewhat created by using such a demanding frame (again, not just weight related, but stiff, extra length).
    I have to maintain a fast and free-swinging/topspin swing to put short balls away and play with more angles. It wound up being more important than obsessing about plow/mass/heaviness. I can add lead or upgrade gradually as I get better, if needed.
     
  5. ryydman

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    Hi fellas, I have 2 questions...

    Is there a consensus here that the new black PD is definitely more comfortable to one's arm/shoulder than the previous blue GT version?

    Doesn't the huge drop in swing weight make the new version too light, lack stability/plow? Isn't it a tad flimsy compared to previous PD iterations?

    Thanks
     
  6. NE1for10is?

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    I never had arm problems till I started playing with the PDR about a year ago and now I have a chronic golfer's elbow problem. Great racquet until you can't play anymore from the pain. I've been playing with gut, but even that doesn't stop the shock from the stiffness of the frame when serving.

    So, to anyone who has gone through the same issue: Can you recommend a racquet that plays with similar power and control, but would be a lot friendlier on the arm?

    I'm probably going to demo a Volkl V1 Midplus, based on other threads I've read. Anything else I should look at? (I'm 4.0 all-court player over 50 yo.)
     
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  7. Francis27

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    Whats a good soft durable string for this besides gut?
     
  8. Tennisspieler

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    I would recommend trying the Pacific X Feel Tour. It has similar specs to the PD, i.e. 100 sq. inch head size, 16/19 string pattern, around 300 gramms weight (unstrung). However, the Pacific is much more flexible, yet still very powerful. So you don’t end up sacrificing power for a better feel.

    When I demoed the racquet, I liked the huge sweetspot, the easy access to spin, the surprising level of power, and the excellent control. What impressed me most, was the plush, buttery feeling on ball impact. The Pacific felt like a natural extension of the arm. I could literally “feel” the ball on the stringbed, which was sweet and almost addictive. Directional control was outstanding, which gave me a lot of confidence, since I could easily place the ball where I wanted to.

    As far as power is concerned, you may expect this racquet to generate only moderate pace due to its flex. Nevertheless, the TW racquet universe shows that this stick is even faster than the standard PD. (Just check out the TW comparison tool). With a full swing, the Pacific hits a very nice flat shot that bullets across the court. Best thing is I felt that I couldn’t hit long no matter how hard I hit. The ball just got faster, not longer.

    The PD is a fantastic racquet, no doubt about that. Fast, spin-friendly, great for serves. It really is a winner. But if you are looking for a racquet that is softer on the arm and has more flex than a PD, you will probably like the Pacific X Feel Tour, as it provides you with a plush feel, excellent directional control and lots of power.

    (P.S: There will be a new 2013 version with improved Basalt materials called "Pacific BX 2 X Feel Tour". In Europe this model is already available and I guess it will soon be released in the United States as well.)
     
  9. TheVuMan

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    Has anyone tried to put a leather grip on their pure drive roddick? Are there any pros in doing so?
     
  10. NE1for10is?

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    I have leather on mine as an undergrip. Tried it as an overgrip and it was waaaay too slippery, however it you can feel the bevels better if you use as an undergrip.
     
  11. user92626

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    Is it bad form in here to ask if I could customize my PDGT to be like a APDGT? :) That's what I'm gonna do.

    APDs are my go-to sticks. Start out with a cortex and they still stay true to my games these days!
     
  12. NE1for10is?

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    I tried the Pacific today, along with a Volkl Organix V1 and a ProKennex Ionic Ki 5 315. Of the three I liked the ProKennex most by far, however it's not nirvana yet. I'll probably need to demo more racquets for a while. Does anyone else have any other suggestions for an 4.0 all court player with arm issues from the PDR?
     
  13. P.Floyd

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    Reviving this legendary club.

    Has anyone tested the FO PD? Feels more solid than the standard '12 PD and the PDR I'm also demoing. Could be attributable to it's newness, but maybe some slight changes have indeed been made?
     
  14. ckhirnigs113

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    I read much earlier in the thread that if a Babolat racquet is more than 7g out of spec you can get it replaced for free. I have a standard Pure Drive 2012 and it is 330g strung without dampener or overgrip. This is about 15g above the normal weight of a strung PD. Do I need to contact Babolat? Sadly I bought the racquet used, so I can't go to the retailer.
     
  15. Roberto_spin

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    Strange... My first thoughts were that have a pdr!
    Let's assume you haven't...
    Already checked for some lead or weight inside the handle (open the buttcap)
    Or under the bumperguard? Finally: you're ure it isn't a fake chinese one?

    I'm not in the racketbusiness but chances that babolat will help is not very obvious, certainly in a customization world we are living in...

    Hopes it helps... A little
     
  16. ckhirnigs113

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    I got in touch with the guy I bought the racquet from and found out there was close to 9 grams of lead hidden under the bumper guard. This is what was obviously throwing things off with my measurements. You would expect to get this type of info when you are buying a used racquet, but I have now learned to always ask before buying.

    The real sad part is the fact that the racquet has a fresh Babolat VS Touch gut/MSV Co-poly string job in it that is preventing me from getting to the lead under the bumper. I will have to play with this heavier-than-stock stick until the strings break.
     
  17. Roberto_spin

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    I actually do like this setup.. Put 7 grams in the handle (lead or posterbuddy) and you have pure drive monster ( kinda)
     
  18. WhereIsMacMac

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    9g of lead under the bumper guard? any weight under the grip?
     
  19. Bartelby

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    Played with the original gt version owned by a friend last night and did it sure had some swingweight compared to the current version, or is that qc?
     
  20. MikeHitsHard93

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    The gt is supposed to have a decent sw to it. IMO the GT version is much better than the 2012.
     
  21. NE1for10is?

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    For anyone who has tried both, how does the 2013 Cortex version compare to the 2012 PDR? Is it arm friendlier? Does it have the same power, etc. or is it exactly the same racquet with different marketing?
     
  22. Roberto_spin

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    What is the 2013 cortex version?
     
  23. NE1for10is?

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    Oh, ok so there is no difference? It says "Updated with Cortex", so I assumed this was a newer version of the 2012 with Cortex. I don't feel any Cortex in the 2012 PDR like I do with the AeroPro, so I just assumed this was something new. I guess I don't need to worry about getting a new one then!
     
  26. MikeHitsHard93

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    This is still the 2012 model. It's the updated active cortex from the normal cortex on the GT models (blue ones).
     
  27. WhereIsMacMac

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    The 2013 PD got an update... A new logo. So basically its the same as the 2012 PD but with new (minor) cosmetics. (But about 0.0001 grams lighter than the 2012 PD because of the materials used on the new logo, which is a big deal, right?)
     
  28. Tennis sensation

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    My Pure Drive just arrived today. Will go for a hit tomorrow..
     
  29. Roberto_spin

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    Let us know... it's a nice stick!
     
  30. Tennis sensation

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    Sure will if weather permits tomorrow.
    Strung it up with RPM Dual at 62. Lets see how it works
     
  31. GarryClarke

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    Nice to see this thread alive again:)

    ive now come full circle after moving away from my 2012 PD,s to tinker with player type sticks which went very well (Wilson Ncode 6.1 95 18x20 12.8oz 12pts H/L) but i was always drawn back to the PD and it gorgeous paint job.

    ive been tinkering around with lead tape and blutak and have now found (by luck might i add) a perfect setup for me @ 11.8oz 6pts H/L with 5g @ 12 and 14g in the butt cap!!
    strung with Gut/B5E @ 57/52 it hits BIG BIG BIG with tons of spin but not bad at the net either,my other PD is stock weight with a full bed of multi @ 58,not hit much with it as im loving the Gut/Poly to much but full multi feels very nice and will be my setup through out our horrid UK winter months....
     
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  32. Roberto_spin

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    I have the same experience... playing around with customizing PD, balance weight....
    Then bumped into a Pure Drive Roddick! Almost no need for customizing, just perfect stock!
    I'm also trying other rackets... more player like rackets cause I hope to get some perfect control with it (while I know it's 90% technique...) but it's just fun playing around.
    Now I'm playing around with the Head Graphene Speed pro... it's not a PDR but I'll give it time...

    Have you already tried the PDR?
     
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  33. GarryClarke

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    Hi Roberto

    No havent tried the PDR as ive always liked the PD stock and knew the PDR would have been far to much for me at that time!!!

    i like a heavier stick as i got used to a 12.8oz Wilson Ncode but weighing up a PD to that weight would be suicidal lol,
    Believe it or not my tinkering with the PD was my 1st go and i think ive got it bang on for me that is,had 2 hours hitting so far and the results were positive but hope its not short lived as im back on court for a few hours of hitting sunday morning,my fingers are crossed i hit well again!!!

    good luck with the Head Graphene Speed pro :)
     
  34. guitarplayer

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    Garry..like you...I came from using a BLX PS Six One 90 and modded 100's. Took me a few sessions with my 2012 PD but now I am addicted.

    Hit for an hour this morning with my ball machine. After 30 minutes I went back to my Pro Staff...ugh....right back into the bag it went.
     
  35. GarryClarke

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    The PD,s were my first proper stick coming from a LM8 (only been playing for 2 years)
    i trolled (not litterly lol) this board looking for a big hitting/easy powered stick and after bumping into this thread and asking a few questions my mind was made up (early 2012)

    After a few months playing with the PD i fell in love with it and brought another,but as its happened to us all on this board we look for something else and yes i was guilty of it a few times,so i put the PD to one side and played around with the following

    Yonex Ezone 100 (couldnt get on with the funny shaped head)

    Wilson Blade 98 (gold/black version just didnt feel right!!!)

    Wilson Ncode 6.1 95 18x20 (still love this stick for doubles)

    Head YT IG Radical MP,s (hit with for an hour and soon put them away)

    i was on a tuition and was trying the rad mp,s out but had my PD as backup strung with PHT @ 55 and after 30 mins i wasnt feeling the rad mp,s at all so out came the PD and ive yet to leave them alone and im back to stay HONEST lol...

    strange how we come full circle back to our first proper sticks and i wonder (if anyone else will be honest) and hold there hands up lol
     
  36. Tennis sensation

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    Rain played spoilsport today and tomorrow also doesn't look too good. :(
     
  37. Nostradamus

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    how does this frame compare in Manuverability when compared to Aero pro drive 2013 ?
     
  38. MikeHitsHard93

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    The difference IMO is negligible.
     
  39. Nostradamus

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    I replaced the Headguard on Aeropro drive 2013 with headguard with holes in it like Pure drive 2012 has. and I am noticing much more head light balance in aeropro from when it came in stock form with solid headguard on it.
     
  40. Imago

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    Just a quick report

    PD with Black Out 17 @ 26 / xcel 16 @ 24 seems to be a better setup than with xcel full bed - comparing them side by side; what surprizes me more is that the first setup is more arm friendly than the latter.

    [​IMG]
     
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  41. NE1for10is?

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    What was the tension with the full bed of excel?
     
  42. Imago

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    I stringed it 25/24, but didn't measured the final tension. Now, after 20 days (5 hour incidental play), it is 24/20. So I suppose next time I should start with 26/27 to make up for the drawback of the crosses.
     
  43. getagrip

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    How many of the club members are still on the 2012 Pure Drive, like me?
     
  45. rlau

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    Looking to join the club.... I should be receiving a box with three PD2012s this week...
     
  46. A_Instead

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    Anyone seen or heard from OP lately.. BC1?
    He has been missing for some time...
     
  47. rlau

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    Got 'em today, and I must say: the cosmetics look great!
     
  48. JackB1

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    I think the 2012 Pure Drives were the best ever. Didn't like the newest models with their higher sweet spot and tighter pattern.
    Also think the 2012's have the baddest cosmetics to boot.
     
  49. I'm not good

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    Joining this club as my first Babolat sticks. Love Head racquets but I'm going to give it a go.
     

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