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  1. teh_firestarter

    teh_firestarter New User

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    Bump...

    Still looking for the stringing pattern (preferably a two-piece) of the ps ltd non-gt.

    Thanks!
     
  2. teh_firestarter

    teh_firestarter New User

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    stringing instructions

    For those wondering, I found this info on the usrsa website!

    Babolat Pure Storm LTD
    Tension: 55-62
    Pattern: 18×20
    Start mains: H
    Mains skip: 9T & 8H,10H

    Also:

    Len. 2pc: 21'x19'
    Tie Off M's: 8T
    Start 2pc X: 8H
    Last 2pc X: 9T
    Tie 2pc X: 6H,10T

    http://www.usrsa.com/scratch/digest-tool-tips.html

    -firestarter :twisted:
     
  3. ngoster

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    The string pattern is the same as the GT.
     
  4. Pocky

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    On the butt cap of my PSLGT, it has " CID " melted on. Any idea what it means or anyone has it?
     
  5. recaffeine

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    hullo,just sharing my short story here..
    im from a little country called Malaysia(there is such a place :))
    in my late 30s,n has been playing since the late 80s..
    started out playing with a ps85,went thru most of the 6.0s
    6.1s 90s n 95s..still grinding with the 85 n 90s,but recently
    acquired a little gem at a very good price,the 2009 pslgt..
    oooohh so much fun with this little baby,needed some getting
    used to though,the feel was similar to my Ws,n had some work
    done on leading n balancing,due to its extremely HL feel..
    now its my go-to stick on a bad day,n starting to make it
    my great-day stick..:wink:
     
  6. BHStennis09

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    There is a big difference in feel between the PSL and the PSL GT's. I love the PSL just picked up two more and the plus version of this great stick.
     
  7. KenC

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    I'm not 100% sure, but I think it is the factory ID where it was made.
     
  8. ci2ca

    ci2ca Semi-Pro

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    DOes this racket come extended?
     
  9. chizzle

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    AFAIK, the Limited version does not come extended. But the PS Tour does...
     
  10. Matchball

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    I think there is a plus version (half an inch longer). At least in Europe.
     
  11. D.Romeo

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    im currently recovering from an injury. Normally i use the Aero pro but want to challenge myself to use a less spin racket could some of you give me some info on the Pure storm limited
     
  12. KenC

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    The PSLGT is capable of hitting with a lot of spin. The difference you will face coming from the Aero Pro is in the low level of power provided by the PSLGT.
     
  13. D.Romeo

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    Thanks, I went to my local rep asked to see it and it look amazing, but wondering what strings would go well with it ? i normally use a full poly
     
  14. KenC

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    I would use a poly to tame a powerful racquet. In a low-powered racquet I prefer a good multi at the lowest tension possible before I start to feel any loss of the control provided by the frame. This starts to add some power to the racquet.

    If you think about it, a control oriented, flexible frame combined with a multi at lower tensions is about as arm friendly as it gets.
     
  15. Senor Pinko

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    Hey all,
    I'm looking at the psl and psl gt. At the moment I have the apd gt however I have found that it is too stiff and that I am developing elbow soreness after I hit, which is a shame because I love the racquet!:cry: Would anyone who has used these racquets be able to recommend it for a baseliner who uses spin? I feel that at the moment I sometimes rely on the power of the aeropro, however, is it possible that stringing at a lower tension may give the psl comparable power? Is the swing weight very significant compared to the apd racquets and is the 'woofer' feel that I love about the aeropro and pure drive racquets noticeable? Thanks in advance.
     
  16. OldButGame

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    The SW of the PSLs is quite a bit lower than the Aeropro. The Original PSL has a SW of like 304 or something like that. You can certainly get head speed with the PSL for spin. On the other hand its a 95" head. Its low powered for a purely baseline game unless you're willing to 'muscle' the ball a lot.
    All that having been said,..I love the PSL, the comfort, the control, the feel, the touch,..heck,...buy it just to have in you arsenal if You can afford it.
     
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  18. thug the bunny

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    Hey PSLians,

    I was shopping around on TW and noticed that they have the non-GT PSL back on sale! Go get 'em!
     
  19. Fuji

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    It's hilarious that you just posted this, I'm picking one up tomorrow. It was one of my first "player" frames I ever had, and I regret selling it so much. They were so hard to come by, but now I can finally get the old "bumble bee" PSL back!

    -Fuji
     
  20. thug the bunny

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    Scary. Fuji, once again, we are the same. The PSL was also my first 'player's frame', and also like you, I sold her and was sorry. If I hadn't just bought an AG4D100, I would also be picking up another bumble bee!
     
  21. Fuji

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    LOL! It's really freaking me out!!!

    I only sold her to fund new purchases, and because I was WAY too weak to use her, but now being almost a 4.5, it seems like it was fate!

    I paid something like 190 bucks for it the first time around, but now since it's only 120, it was just too good a deal to pass up!

    I order one this morning strung with my old set up of PSGD 17, and I'll see if I can play it a bit better this time around.

    From what it seems, I may VERY well be making the switch. I tested a few rackets the last few weeks, and nothing is feeling right, but I sure did love the feel of the PSL a few years ago...

    -Fuji
     
  22. thug the bunny

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    Dude, if you're currently hitting the Redondo, KPS88, and Pres Mid, you will soooo be able to crush the PSL.

    I stumbled around a bit when I first swung the PSL, but after leading it up some and dropping the tension, I loved it. It was only the arrival of the 88 that caused me to move on...
     
  23. Fuji

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    Hahaha! That's what I was thinking! Maybe now after a few years of growing almost a foot and a bit more strength in my shots, I'll be able to decimate my shots with the PSL now!

    I strung at 57lbs on the mains and 55lbs on the crosses. Is this normally a good practice with the PSL? I know Volkls preform really well if the lowered crosses, but it's been so long since the PSL and I was a gear noob before...

    I'm actually quite sad I couldn't stick with the KPS88, that thing was more of an arm killer then my Pure Drive with Cortex, which is a real shame. It's a fantastic stick.

    -Fuji
     
  24. thug the bunny

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    I used X1 BP at 53# all around. 18g was do-able because of the dense bed and gave more spin and pop.

    Let me know how your return to the 'bee' turns out...
     
  25. Fuji

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    For sure! I was thinking of using X1 18, but I wasn't sure if 18 was just too thin! After I tear through this set of Prince, (Duraflex lasts about 4-5 days), I'll be stringing it up with X1 18! I actually have a few sets of X1 laying around my house LOL!

    For sure! I honestly think that this will be a permanent switch back. Yesterday in my match I was swinging a Volkl Organix 10 325, and the Redondo mid, and I was looking to find a medium between them, and it seems like the PSL will be quite good! Plus I am REALLY loving dense string patterns these days. Yesterday just my normal top spin forehand was great with the closed hitting deep, while the open pattern was hitting right near the service line. I was for sure over spinning it!

    -Fuji
     
  26. thug the bunny

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    Yes, I think the PSL will be a good compromise between those two, just like I'm hoping the 4D100 will be somewhere between my 88 and Redondo...
     
  27. Fuji

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    I hope so! I honestly never got caught up in the Babolat Hate-Hype myself, and I'm quite excited to try it out again. UPS should be delivering her tonight....

    I REALLY hope the 4D100 works out for you! I've heard some really awesome things about it! I have a friend who plays with them, and they really are sweet frames! I found it SUPER maneuverable. Perfect for doubles!

    -Fuji
     
  28. ssonosk

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    I think i'm about to get a psl soon, how does it feel?
     
  29. Fuji

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    Feels great! Very smooth, think of a typical Babolat, now the complete opposite of that!

    It's like a stiffer Redondo in a bit bigger of a frame! Excellent comfort!

    -Fuji
     
  30. OldButGame

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    I've even read on these threads that 18G is almost recommended in the PSL,...given the dense string bed,...AND the 95in head,...otherwise it may feel like a board,...I always string mine at 18G,...48lbs,...possibly my nicest sticks for comfort,feel,control,...Ya gotta love 'em,.. :)
     
  31. Rob1

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    Great Racquet

    I have found a tension around 53 is good and not so extreme.
    I put lead at the 3 and 9 O'clock postions.
    I use Biphase/Gut and BHB/Addiction.
    I find BHB/Addiction has good control.
     
  32. ghia

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    Hello! As of 24 hours you can count me in the group. I now proudly own two 2011 ltdgt's.
     
  33. thug the bunny

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    Update: been using the 4D100 a bunch of times now. As a comparison with the 'bee', it is def stiffer and crisper, not as plush, but I don't know how much of this is due to using 17g rather than 18g on the bee. It also feels a little 'clunkier'. The frame is thicker in both beam and the other cross-sectional dimension, so I'm not sure if this clunkyness might be a mental thing from my visual take on the frame. And the balance is def different, but without my old bee in my hands to compare I couldn't tell you exactly how.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm hitting pretty well with the 4D100, but I'm starting to yearn for the feel of the bee again...
     
  34. Fuji

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    Come back to the darkside.... :D

    I've been hitting with it for a while now, and I've been playing excellent! I've actually UPPED the tension to 60/58 with Prince synthetic Duraflex 17, and I've still got a ton of power to spare.

    Today during my match I was practicing my reverse forehands, and hitting them Ala Nadal almost as good as he does... almost! This stick provides me with the perfect amount of spin, I absolutely love it!

    I actually just picked up a POG Mid and it should be here in the next few days. The only reason I did, was because I found out Prince is discontinuing them, and it's one of the last few mid's I need to get before I own almost every classic mid line! As of now I have: KPS88 x2, RDS 001 Mid, Redondo Mid, Prestige Mid, and now the POG Mid. The only one left after that is the PS85! :) I just love collecting all the mid's, as they are some of my favorite sticks. I highly doubt I will be moving from the PSL though!

    -Fuji
     
  35. thug the bunny

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    I hear ya. The mids are the elite super models of the racquet world, just gorgeous. And they feel so good in your hands. And taste delicious. Alright I'm getting carried away..

    I'm waiting for TW to get more 3/8 PS85s. I think they said Oct.
     
  36. Fuji

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    Mids are just gorgeous! I love them, and plus the look pretty when I have them hanging on my wall... :D

    I hope to get a PS85, but right now I'm just trying to finish my season with the PSL!

    -Fuji
     
  37. D NOZZLE

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    My new 2011 ltd. GT came two days ago with a full bed of Black Code 17 at 57 lbs. I hit with it yesterday and loved it; I may lower the tension a little bit next time though. Unless I just need to break in the strings.
     
  38. KenC

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    I know poly and co-poly strings are all the rage today, but the PSLGT really comes to life with a quality multi or even natty gut. Its a low powered frame and putting a string in that is lower powered really makes the player have to work that much harder when it comes time to apply significant pace. On the other hand, because of the frame's low power, you can get away with using a multi at lower tensions and still get great pace while maintaining all the control provided by the stick. The downside is multis break relatively quickly, but then poly strings go dead rather quickly.

    It's worth considering.
     
  39. KenC

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    Hey Fuji! I hope you get a couple of the PS85's as they truly are remarkable sticks. I bet you will continue on with the PSL as your goto stick though! In the end the PSL is like a more forgiving version of the PS85 and holds up better in tough matches today. I recently gave up and put some lead (6g split at 3 and 9) on the hoop on two of my racquets and this brings the power up a bit and makes the racquet feel even closer to that wonderful feel of the PS85.
     
  40. D NOZZLE

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    Thank you! I'll try a multi or gut next time I have it strung. However, which multis do you recommend?
     
  41. KenC

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    @ D Nozzle

    It really is a personal preference kind of thing. I personally prefer crisp playing multis like Multifeel, X-1, and XCel Power. You may want to try NRG2, XCel Premium and other strings that play more lively. If you play with relatively flat strokes you can try some of the basic syn gut strings like the Prince Original Syn Gut. They give lots of pop.

    On the budget side you could try Pro Supex Maxim Touch for a multi and Gosen OG Sheep Micro for a syn gut. Or even do a hybrid between them!

    There are other things to consider, like hybrids, such as what tension you want to use and what gauge you prefer. With the PSLGT I prefer to use lower tension to give back some power and thinner gauges to make the stringbed a little more lively.

    I personally started using the new Tecnifibre string that is an evolution of Multifeel called XR1. I use the 17 gauge and string the mains at 50 lbs and the crosses at 48 lbs and use the 4 knot method to keep the tension differential between the mains and crosses. In the PSLGT I get a good bit of power this way and still have pin point precision.

    Its worth picking up a few of the 2010 PSLGTs used so that you can do side by side comparisons of strings. The 2010 and 2011 racquets are identical except for the paint job. A few extra racquets also comes in handy when you want to play around with adding a little lead to the hoop. The racquet changes significantly with just a little lead tape and could help you further dial in your perfect racquet.
     
  42. chizzle

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    I keep wanting to shift to other sticks, but I keep coming back to these...

    1 Bumble bee
    1 PSLGT 2009
    2 PSLGT 2011

    I can just swing out all day with a poly or hybrid and play great defense with this as well. It's my go to stick for sure....

    I've tried lead twice, but I keep ending up preferring the stock weight of this stick.

    I like a crisper, firmer poly so I"m trying Solinco Tour Bite, Topspin CF 1.20, WC SilverString 1.20 and WC Mosquito Bite. We'll see where land. Currently, I dig the feel of Tour Bite, but the durability and action of Pro Hurr 1.20.

    This is the best stick for me that is currently out there in the market (as a racquetholic, I have to repeat these words....daily).
     
  43. Fuji

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    Thanks Ken! I'm actually waiting on a PS85 soon!

    I still have my PSL as my go to stick regardless however! I've flirted with the APD/PDRGT+, but nothing is as good and gives me as much confidence as the PSL. It's still my favorite, but my racketholism gives me fits! LOL!

    I'm playing my PSL with 2 Grams of lead @ 6, and a Wilson Pro overgrip. Pretty much stock, but the little bit of lead in the throat just ads a TOUCH of extra crispness, that I've come to enjoy. When I'm really swinging out, I can feel the frame flex, but if I catch it a bit too low in the bed, (Which happens more then most would think), I have JUST enough stiffness to get it back smoothly! :)

    -Fuji
     
  44. Orion3

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    I've never put lead at 6 before - does it help power?

    I've been playing with lead at 12, added 3g and turned my serve power up to max and started to get real bite in my kick serve ...problem is I don't like my groundies as much.

    Going to reduce be weight to 2g and see how it goes.
     
  45. Fuji

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    At 6, I find it helps stiffen up the bed by a point or two. It helps reduce flex in the throat and add a bit of power. All IMO of course! :)

    I hate messing with lead at 12, it's way too much work to get it to feel right on all my shots.

    -Fuji
     
  46. Wilson6-1

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    I really like Wilson NXT Tour 17 Strings at 58 lbs. If they don't have the tour, the 17 is great too.
     
  47. Orion3

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    I've trimmed the weight at 12 down to 2g - hoping to play tonight to see but just had match cancelled so may have to wait till Wednesday.

    Fingers crossed, I'll get my groundies back and keep the new found pop and bite on my 1st and 2nd serves...if not 6 O'clock it is!

    I see you play with 2g at 6; would you recommend this amount (given I moving from 2-3g at 12?

    Thanks in advance
     
  48. Fuji

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    Hey bud!

    Hope it works out for you at 12! 6 is very unique if you haven't tried it before. I only use it in super flexy frames. (Redondo/PSL) It's definitely fun to try if you haven't done it before.

    I'd definitely recommend at least 2-3 grams at 6. You can really pile it on without noticing it too much. Same goes for adding directly to the throat as well! :)

    -Fuji
     
  49. Orion3

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    Trimming down to 2g seems to have done the trick - I managed to get a game with a regular partner after all. Serve was good and groundies were much better.

    Playing again on Wednesday, if all is still well afterwards I think I shall settle on this setup.

    Still interested to try 6 o'clock though. Maybe on my 3rd frame when it arrives.

    Interestingly, since moving to this frame, I've reverted to a SW forehand grip. Playing a big hitter like this partner today, I struggled at times to 'middle' the ball. When I switched to an eastern grip - pow!

    Going to persevere with the SW for a bit longer and hope it was just my timing was a little off.
     
  50. xtreme tennis

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    Is the flex rating 59 (TW) or 65, which one plays softer?
    thanks!
     

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