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  1. pheonix6579

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    Well strung one of my limited ISOSPEED poly (17g) @ 30lb. Well I have found the power I was looking for but to me it really pushed more of the control out the window than I wanted. Also still not as solid in the head as I would like. Think I will push tension up to about 35-37lbs next stringing and add some lead at 3-9, probably go for longer strips vs small multiple layer lead strips lead.
     
  2. pheonix6579

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    I can compare the two frames.

    PS 95: flex is very nice and comparable to the PSL, low powered (though not near as low as the PSL), really good access to spin (much easier to access than the PSL), control is good but not great (PSL takes this one by a mile), feel as also really good though I would give a slight edge to the PSL, PS95 is more forgiving, as far as a solid feel ( I feel both need a bit of lead to sure up things from stock, but not a ton is needed), balance is nice on both but PSL seems to swing a bit faster IMO. Another thing that I like about the PSL is that the handle seems to be a bit more 2-hander friendly.
     
  3. tmc5005

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    This is a great racquet. Very flexible yet great on offcenter hits because the frame is stiffened with tungsten filament at the right spots. A very arm-friendly frame with very good flexibilty, head light balance and a heavy frame with a low swingweight.
     
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    Thanks, seems like I will try the PS 95 but only if I find a real bargain.
     
  5. LanEvo

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    Anyone ever try a kevlar string setup in this? I am wondering how it would play before I try it out. I would be doing 18g co-poly with 18g kevlar.
     
  6. Fuji

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    You want to make the lowest powered racket available, even more low powered with Kevlar? Best of luck! :razz:

    -Fuji
     
  7. LanEvo

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    Yea, I need something with more control and lower powered, I current have Hurricane Feel in it around mid 40s to 50 I would say, and it is like a rocket launcher if I really try to amp up my shots.

    Either that, or I was just going to do the 18g co-poly at around 40. But with a frame this flexy, I figure the kevlar is worth a try.
     
  8. Fuji

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    Holy dyna man haha. How much control do you need? Just close your racket face and get some top going on! :razz:

    Seriously, I just use(d) full 17g poly @ 54lbs and it was fine. Just go for a thicker gauge string if you want more control. 18g is stupidly springy as is.

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  9. LanEvo

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    That's just the thing... I dont know how to hit top spin. I just swing across my body and I hit flat, which is why I go for thinner gauge to get me spin.
     
  10. KenC

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    If you have control problems with a PSLGT it might not be the racquet. Are you absolutely sure you are using good technique? If not, it is useless to think that equipment choices will solve the problem.
     
  11. Fuji

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    Man that's rough. Watch some youtube videos on how to hit topspin. What grip are you using for your FH? Kevlar really isn't going to solve your problem here if you aren't hitting with any top.

    Thinner gauges are giving you more pop, so if you're not generating spin on your own, it's just giving more power.

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  12. LanEvo

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    Ok maybe I exaggerated, I do know how to, I am just not too great at using it, my stroke is off, as when I hit the topspin swinging hard it has the right path but lands out. I use an eastern to sw, depending on the situation and how I need it, same with my ohbh. I hit topspin just fine with that.

    And I really prefer thinner gauges bc I want to break strings... I have only broke strings one time my life, it took me a yr. and it was with a syn. gut.
     
  13. LanEvo

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    Yes it is my form. I am still adjusting to it, but i have a pair, and one of them needs to be restrung anyway. So I was wondering about sit-ups and if anyone has used Kevlar.

    I really enjoy them though coming from a PDR, I am confident to say I do not play as well, meaning access to power is not a great as the PDR, but I really enjoy the soft , flexy feeling of the frame and the general frame overall. I am better at net with it, PDR was a bit to powerful for at the net jobs.
     
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  14. Fuji

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    Ah I see!

    Dude you definitely don't need kevlar then. I've never broken Kevlar in my life, and I break poly frequently. If you want to break strings, use mantis comfort synthetic strung tight. That stuff is fragile!

    -Fuji
     
  15. AndyMurray22

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    Hello all! I just got two new 2009 Pure Storm Ltds. I really want to stiffen it up. Where do you sugget I put the lead tape and how much?
     
  16. Fuji

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    Put a couple grams right at 12. That adjusts the variable flex rate a bit.

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  17. LanEvo

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    The only thing with kevlar is that the feel you get from it is the best... you cannot find anything else to beat it imo, the ball pocketing and the whole setup is just awesome. If I were to do poly it would be 40 all around, kevlar/poly would be 35-38/40.
     
  18. AndyMurray22

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    Ok Thanks a ton! What kind of tape do you suggest? and how many grams?
     
  19. Fuji

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    No worries! Oh I was just suggesting the use of Lead Tape. Like 3g at 12 will give you something like 9 extra SW points, and it should play with the variable flex a touch. 3g is a good place to start though, as you can remove some if it doesn't swing / feel right, and still have some lead left, and you still have quite a bit more room to play with before the SW gets out of hand. :)

    -Fuji
     
  20. AYone

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    Trying my PS LTD with Big Banger Ace 18 at 51 pounds full bed this morning. Will update the group on results.
     
  21. AYone

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    Was pretty happy with this set up. Got nice bite on the ball for spin. Felt like it opened up the sting pattern just a bit. Serves were accurate and powerful.
     
  22. boinz

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    Guys, read thru more than half of this thread and I am almost convinced that I should get a pair of PSL(GT) as a base to tinker with lead.
    My objective is to create a polarised racquet that is ard 350g and still very head light so I can generate good RHS

    What I had gathered from readings is that the newer PSLGT plays more solid than the original.
    But which one is more flexible/softer? I see TW gives the original a 63 and the GT a 59... But some other retailers got other flex ratings that confused me totally
    So picking the brains of both PSL and PSLGT users pls let me know your thoughts

    Cheers
     
  23. Fuji

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    They are so similar it's crazy. I find the GT flex's a bit nicer then the LTD, but both are ridiculously soft right around the 60 mark.

    -Fuji
     
  24. Power Player

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    Hey LTD fans. Figured I'd drop in and mention I bought a Pure Storm Team and have been using it for a month. If you ever want a little more power, ease of use..etc from your stick, this is the way to go. Just know what specs you want and add some lead.

    It's a great alternative to the Ltd.
     
  25. KenC

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    Boinz, it might be kind of hard to find the "bumble bee" PSL these days, except for used. I have 4 of the GT version and 1 "bumble bee" and all are at between 61 and 63 stiffness measured on a babolat machine.

    If you are looking to finish around 350g and head light, I would suggest to just get the PS90 (Fed's racquet) instead. I tend to think of the stock PSLGT as a lite version of that racquet, as it is less heavy and has a lower swingweight. If you want a sledgehammer, then try the Pure Storm Tour and put 10 or more grams in the handle.

    The PSLGT plays just fine stock and gets even better and easier to use as you climb the ranks. Playing against a hard hitting 5.0 with a stock PSLGT really demonstrates why this racquet exists. The PSLGT needs a hard hit ball to be able to return a hard hit ball. Facing a hard hit ball, you will better appreciate the lower static weight and swingweight, and will be more able to control placement and keep the ball in under these conditions.
     
  26. Power Player

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    This is a good point. I encounter a fair amount of no pace guys and my older low powered player's sticks were tiring to use.

    When i play a big hitter, the pure storm is incredible.
     
  27. boinz

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    Fuji, KenC thanks for chipping in :) appreciate it

    I'm currently using a PC600 as my regular stick and it weighs ard 360g with over grip. And I also started playing with the PT630 recently and it's ard 355 strung with over grip too.
    These 2 are very nice plush racquets and nice flex just ard 60 which I like and suit my playing style. But during times when i think of itching for a change, their weight leaves very little to do any major tinkering.

    Noticed the flex of the PSLGT being near to the PT630 and being much lighter and also HL makes me really keen to take it on as a platform to experiment with what I had read on lead placement and really go crazy

    TW still got the original PSL on sale...
    So another in another new request for help. Which version of PSL plays with a similar flex like the PT630? Or maybe they can't be compared?

    *PS90 is way too stiff for my liking*
     
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  28. KenC

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    I didn't realize this, as the racquet is 2 models behind and 5 years old at this point. Honestly, the difference between the GT and non GT is so slight that it really won't make much of a difference. If I had to make your decision today, considering the PSL is 100 clams cheaper, I would go for the PSL without blinking an eye.
     
  29. Fuji

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    I have played with the PT630, and it was a bit too soft for my liking. To be honest, they are similar spec wise, but the way they hit is just really different. While the PSL is soft, it has way more modern feel then the PT630. The PT630 really cups the ball, and guides it back. The PSL just crunches the ball and slaps it back. Very similar spec, but the way the racket flexes is totally different IMO. Both great sticks, but really different feel.

    -Fuji
     
  30. boinz

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    so Fuji... would it be more correct to say the PSL and PSLGT plays more like the i.Prestige MP then?

    anyways guys both the Original PSL and the 2009 PSLGT are on sale now at 79.99 super tempting!!!
     
  31. KenC

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    At that price both are a great deal. I have a slight preference for the GT model as it feels slightly more "solid" on impact, but honestly they both play pretty much the same.

    My suggestion is to do a fast demo between the two if possible, and then buy three of your favorite! If I didn't already have 4 matched PSLGTs I would get more!

    Keep in mind that this racquet isn't a rocket launcher like the APDGT, so you can get away with using multis at lower tensions. This setup works in conjunction with the flex and yields a very comfortable hit. I find 50lbs to be the magic tension.
     
  32. boinz

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    Once again thank you KenC... I'm really keen to try out the LTDs but where I am, I do not get to demo that's why I kept referencing to the MP Head frames that I am familiar with :-(
    Honestly I am that close to snagging one original and one GT... But keep cool keep cool... Breathe breathe.... No impulse buys if not I'm gonna be sleeping in the living room
     
  33. Fuji

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    IMO, yes. It's a closer feel to the i.Prestige in the any other Head frame off the top of my head. :)

    -Fuji
     
  34. ae11

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    I have the same question as boinz, PSL vs. PSLGT!
    I actually already have a 2009 PSLGT. Like it a lot and am thinking of getting a second one. They only have 1/8 grips of PSLGT left. Would I notice any difference between the two if I got a PSL as my second racquet? If yes, is it anything that can be easily compensated for with customization?
    Also from what I understand from this thread, PSLGT feels more stable and softer than PSL? Does everyone agree with that assessment?!


     
  35. SFrazeur

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    Picked up a 2011 Pure Storm LTD GT for $90. I replaced the woofer grip that the seller had on for a skin feel. I hope to get out and hit tomorrow.

    -SF
     
  36. ae11

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    I guess it's kind of moot now asking questions about the original PSL. They're running out of stock. They had 3 of 3/8 in stock yesterday but they were all gone this morning. Maybe I'll wait till Babolat decides to reduce the prices on the 2011 version.
    (btw the 2009 pj is my favorite. wish I had bought more when they were on sale and still available)
     
  37. KenC

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    I'm sure you can find them used. Change the grip or overgrip and you will never notice the difference between used and new in play.
     
  38. redbirdone

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    Finally decided to try one of these out. Picked up the older model Limited GT for $79 from TW.

    I was blown away. It felt amazing. So soft. This has to be the lightest feeling 11.9oz racquet I've ever used. This is coming from a 6.1 95 (16x18 ). Used Prince Premier Attack at 54lbs and really liked it. Was expecting a dropoff in serving game based upon some things I read, but my serve was a good as it's ever been. Much better placement with the same or better pace than the 6.1 95. I'm going to try it with a full bed of gut at about 57lbs. Only regret is buying only one as they are now sold out.
     
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  39. redbirdone

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    Holy schmoly! Where has this racquet been all my life? The Great Racquet Search is now complete.

    Goodbye Tennis Talk Racquets forum...it's been fun (and kinda pricey).
     
  40. Poukin

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    Hi everyone, do you know how i can order a psl to France ?
     
  41. redbirdone

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    Try the Pure Storm Ltd GT. It's on the TW Europe site. I have both the GT and the non-GT and they play very similar, the GT feels more solid to me.
     
  42. Poukin

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    Yes but unfortunately it is more 150$ on tw europe site.
    Waiting for the GT version in replacement of my bumble bee which had squaky buttcap. Today I checked my second bumble bee, she has squeaky buttcap too... Do you know how to fix it effectively and if GT version has this problem too ?
     
  43. Poukin

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    What do you mean the GT feels more solid ?
     
  44. KenC

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    Fixing the squeek is easy, you just need to reglue it and restaple it. Any tennis shop can do it for you if you don't want to do it yourself.

    The GT version seems to feel more solid because of the way it absorbs the impact. The difference is slight, but it seems the GT dissipates the impact a little faster than the non GT.
     
  45. Lukhas

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    Say, the specs of the Ltd (+) version are sexy if I believe TWE:
    http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpageRCQDF-BPSLPN-EN.html
    Stiffer and longer for more power, manageable swingweight for good manoeuvrability and allows some lead placement, reasonable strung weight... Someone ever tried it?

    EDIT: Because I saw a pack of two, one having the 2009 cosmetics and the other having the 2011 cosmetics both separately by the original buyer. Even if they are supposed to have the same specs, they are probably slightly different... But at 140€ (remember, 1€=1$) for both with shipping, it looks interesting enough.
     
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  46. Lukhas

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    Well tried the Ltd. (+) side to side with Blade BLX gold/black. More spin and easier to hit with the Blade. The ball feels heavier with the Ltd, likely because of it is an heavier racquet. A weight I felt on serves while trying to bring the racquet up to the ball. Needs more testing, I prefer the PS, but the Blade if much easier to hit with. The Blade vibrates also much less.
     
  47. neesun

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    Attention my fellow Pure Storm LTD brethren

    I've been playing with the Babolat Pure Storm Limited (Carbon Extreme version) for a couple years - see pic below.

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    I had two of these sticks but one of them cracked and I've been searching the internet to buy a replacement but it doesn't seem like you can buy this version new anymore.

    TW currently sell the Babolat Pure Storm Limited GT which I'm thinking of buying as a replacement for my current stick - see pic below

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    For those familiar with both the Babolat Pure Storm Limited (Carbon Extreme version) and the current Babolat Pure Storm Limited GT, do these two sticks play similar?

    The specs of both below.

    PST LTD Carbon Xtreme

    Head Size:
    95 sq. in. / 613 sq. cm.
    Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
    Strung Weight: 11.8oz / 335g
    Balance: 8pts Head Light
    Swingweight: 305
    Stiffness: 62
    Beam Width: 19 mm Straight Beam
    Composition: Graphite Carbon Xtreme

    PST LTD GT

    Head Size:
    95 sq. in. / 612.9 sq. cm.
    Length: 27 inches / 68.58 cm
    Strung Weight: 11.9oz / 337.36g
    Balance: 9 pts Head Light
    Swingweight: 313
    Stiffness: 59
    Beam Width: 19mm Straight Beam
    Composition: Graphite/Tungsten
     
  48. Double_Bagel

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    Found an original PSL bumble bee and have fallen in love with its ridiculous accuracy and ability to create angles.

    Currently strung with RPM blast 17 @ 48lbs. However, in match situations against not so hard hitters, I simply cough up a few too many short balls, and also the racquet just doesn't seem to have the "grunt" to hit a finishing winner with pace when playing faster/mobile players.

    What should I do? Go to the net more? Or switch out the strings for more power? I currently love the RPM, and wouldn't change anything about it, apart from giving it more zing. Don't want to forfeit the control or pinpoint placement by any means.

    Lots of people have mentioned trying various multi's or even gut. Is that an option? Or should I simply stick with the RPM but drop it down to 40lbs on the next stringing?
     
  49. PKfan1

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    gut mains/ poly cross hybrids are magical with this racquet. excellent power and spin compared to full bed poly. Also due to the very dense string pattern durability is not a huge issue. Be sure to pre-stretch the poly to make the poly last longer and make it more cost effective.
     
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    Any particular proven gut/poly recommendations? Are the Babolat hybrids; Tonic/RPM or Tonic/PHT any good?
     

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