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  1. TNT34

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    Another potential convert?

    I've been a Wilson guy for most of the 40 years I've been playing tennis, and although I don't demo other brands regularly, I occasionally pick one up for entertainment. On a whim, I picked up a PS Ltd two weeks ago and was amazed at how "right" it felt. Solid, but with just the right amount of flex. I loved it but figured it was a one-time thing and that subsequent tests would bring me back to reality. After two weeks and eight hours of play testing, I'm still loving this racquet. I'm afraid I'm getting too "wristy" though, since it likes to be spanked and the 3/8 size demo grip makes that more fun.

    One complicating issue is that, as I said, I've always been a Wilson guy. My bag is Wilson, I cheer for Wilson touring pros, I hang out with the Wilson players at the club. So making the switch to a PS Ltd is much more than simply changing racquets -- it's changing my tennis personality. I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

    I love that racquet, though.

    Cheers,

    Tim
     
  2. rxblitzrx

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    Take a stand for what you feel is right! I used to be a Wilson guy too. "be a man... doooo, the-right-thing."
     
  3. NiteFly

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    I just demoed the Pure Storm LTD last night for the first time. I love the ground strokes with it, but I am losing a lot of pace of my topspin serves. I use an aggressive topspin serve for a first serve and a loopier kick serve for a second serve. The demo came with Babolat Attraction string and that could be a part of the problem. I like the way this racquet swings without lead and I'd like to keep it that way if possible. Has anyone else experienced a drop off on serve pace? I love the way the racquet feels and really hope string changes will take care of it.
     
  4. blackdot_fit

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    your loss on your topspin serve is probably due to the very, very small sweetspot. try to make more contact dead center and see if that helps.
     
  5. ctdeuce

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    my first serve is actually harder with this stick, and I had a full job of Babolat addiction in the frame before today

    I think this stick actually has a fairly large sweetspot compared to many others just like it.
     
  6. Diablo Rojo

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    I am thinking about trying a hybrid of Spiky Shark and NRG2. Has anyone tried this combination on the PSL? What tensions would you recommend?
     
  7. ctdeuce

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    interesting idea.

    today i got a new string job of babolat addiction in the mains at 60# and Global Gut in the crosses at 56#. Pumped to hit with it tomorrow!
     
  8. rxblitzrx

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    so nobody has hit with a PK Redondo and is able to compare it to the PSL?

    oh, and I agree about the sweetspot. i think it's fairly large. I consistently hit a little above dead-center and it's still very comfortable.
     
  9. NiteFly

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    I can get pace on flat serves fine with it. How are your topspin serves with it? It is probably a technique issue on my part. I am also demoing a Gamma 330x and I probably get an another 15-20mph on the topspin serves with it though. It is strung looser and I don't what strings are in it. I am coming from a Pure Drive and that may have spoiled me on the serve for too long:)
     
  10. ctdeuce

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    I owned a pure drive for half a season and it's true..that thing serves like a monster. I am still hitting hard with the PSL though and my topspin and kicker are both still doing some nasty damage :)
     
  11. ctdeuce

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    My pride and joy :)

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  12. rxblitzrx

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    i think you stenciled a little high and one too many cross strings. other than that, looks great! i hope to get a second one in the near future.
     
  13. ctdeuce

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    with all the pictures I have checked for the PSL specifically, it shows stencil on 3 strings for the top, and has the lines aligned with the white markers on the side of the stick.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. rxblitzrx

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    you know what, that actually makes more sense; stenciling parallel to the white hash marks. the only picture i looked at was the one on the TW site and they stenciled a little lower.

    well played, sir. i'll be switching my stenciling habits.
     
  15. ctdeuce

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    hahaha...it just made the most sense to me :), and it looks awesome
     
  16. h1l2i3m4w5

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    those look great! im hoping i can get rid of my tour and get a second ltd. i love this frame.
     
  17. rxblitzrx

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    h1l2i3m4w5: i'm trying to sell mine, if you like 4 3/8. The only reason I'm getting a second one is to move to 4 1/2. I really don't play enough to need a backup. Condition is about 7/10.
     
  18. h1l2i3m4w5

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    email me hlimw18 at gmail
     
  19. NiteFly

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    I played my first match with it last night and served much better. I think I just needed another day to adjust. And so the love affair begins...
     
  20. ctdeuce

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    you should do it for sure! I absolutely love this stick to death

    haha glad to hear it went better for ya :)
     
  21. rxblitzrx

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    You've got mail.
     
  22. rxblitzrx

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    Just wanted to say that I'm demoing a Pro Kennex Redondo Mid and it could very well be better than the PSL. Other than the slightly heavier swingweight, this thing feels awesome. I'll report back later tonight.

    93 sq in (18x20)
    12.1 oz strung
    10 pts HL
    320 swingweight
    56 stiffness
    power rating on tennis.com is nearly identical to PSL
     
  23. ctdeuce

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    dont speak that rubbish in this thread!! haha
     
  24. rxblitzrx

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    i knoww, i just had to confess. if this demo doesn't work out, then i'll be buying another PSL. this is officially my last demo attempt.
     
  25. Kevo

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    I considered the Redondo at one point. I imagine it's a very nice frame from the specs. I would guess the PSL is more of a spin machine with the light swing weight. I have a feeling I would have liked the Redondo a lot though. Looks like a nice frame. Good luck with it.
     
  26. rxblitzrx

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    so yea, that demo didn't go well.

    the redondo plays a lot stiffer than its rating indicates. that and the heavier swingweight killed it for me. i'll be returning these and using my demo credits to purchase another PSL.
     
  27. WBF

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    Man. I don't know how I didn't realize it, but I'm weak. Had some great results with the n6.1, but apparently, with a racquet more in tuned for my measly muscles, I'm a far stronger player. I love this racquet. Only thing that comes close to the feeling of the n6.1 95 (18x20) without the weight messing up my shots or rotator cuff. No idea why anyone would complain about having trouble against hard hitters. Those people must either be playing on the tour, or too strong for the racquet.
     
  28. ctdeuce

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    hey WBF, how do you like focus hex in this stick? I was thinking of trying that, blue gear, or spikyshark next
     
  29. WBF

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    ctdeuce: all I can say is that it works well for me. I haven't tried a wide variety of strings; I have the two reels, so I just use it :p. I love the fact that it holds tension fairly well though.
     
  30. ctdeuce

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    Nice...I may have to give it a shot. thanks!
     
  31. Weedcutter

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    i ussually use a pst and ordered the demo and the strings make it feel stiff what do they string it at? other than that i like it
     
  32. ctdeuce

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    I wouldnt know...I never used it with stock string.
     
  33. rxblitzrx

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    yea, when you string the PSL too tight it gets COMPLETELY dead. it's a racquet of extremes, in my opinion. too tight and it's dead, loosen it up and it's golden.
     
  34. ctdeuce

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    blitz, you still sellin that 3/8?
     
  35. rxblitzrx

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    yea, shoot me an email. i got pics too.

    rhmpharm420 on hotmail
     
  36. rxblitzrx

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    Well it's official. I just picked up my new PSL today in the more agreeable 4 1/2 grip. After putting a Wilson Pro Overgrip on it, my hand is loving it. I still have the 4 3/8 + 2 overgrip to compare and now the 4 3/8 definitely feels too small.

    Very excited to get this on court. It feels like ball impact should be more stable, now that I have a better grip on the racquet.

    I also picked up a pair of the Babolat Team All Court 4 tennis shoes (red/white), since they were a special package deal. Anybody interested in buying these? I really don't need them. I have an auction running right now on "that popular auction site", but I'd love to save the 3% fee they charge. I also tried to post it up in the For Sale subforum here. Hopefully it gets approved.

    o yea, i gotta say... holding two of these suckers side by side is a VERY cool feeling. i feel all professional now. hahha!
     
  37. ctdeuce

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    hahaha I feel the same with my sticks, especially since I did the ink on the strings and everything so they have the babolat lines logo. Unfortunately one of mine is a 1/4 and I have a buyer for it....so hopefully you're 3/8 will be my new 2nd stick :). Emailing now.
     
  38. blackdot_fit

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    for some reason this doesn't ring true for me on the court...i was just out on the courts a couple of hours ago comparing my two PSLs, both strung with Gosen OG Sheep Micro, one at 60 lbs. and one at 62 lbs., and I like the tighter one much better! i've even tried it at 50 lbs. and 55-57 lbs., and i didn't like it too much. i was launching balls all day! i'm gonna try 65 lbs. for shts and giggles, but i think the golden range for me is about 61-63 lbs.

    but this is with a full bed of synthetic, though. i'm gonna buy a couple of packs of Babolat Attraction and try a hybrid. or maybe a full bed of multi. we'll see.


    oh, and for anyone on the fence about this stick, please don't let a bad demo day stop you! try this one out a few times and you may fall in love with it! i've seriously demoed 20 different racquets in the last 2 months to see if i could find anything "better" than the PSL for my game. i've lost a bit on my serve compared to my old MFil 200, but i can swing away all day and the balls stay flat, heavy, and most importantly, IN!


    what's weird, though, is my sister is relatively new to tennis (but she can rally), and she likes the PSL! she hits with a Head TiS2, which is head heavy like a mug!!! she seems more consistent with the stick, so i went ahead and let her borrow one of them.
     
  39. ctdeuce

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    i've found so far that my range seems to be 56-60 with the PSL. I got one stick strung at about 57 and babolat addiction and I hit well with it. Changed up to my current string setup and after I hit for 2 hours with each frame, I love this setup also. Babolat addiction strings are awesome for this frame.
     
  40. JesseT

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    what size shoes?
     
  41. rxblitzrx

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    Size 10. They say these run a half-size small and I agree. I normally wear a 9.5 but these fit me.
     
  42. PED

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    I hit with the PSL today for a bit-wow what a stick. I played with the PST for 18 months and loved it. The PSL I used had Pro blend at 62 and I was expecting it to hit like a brick but the spin and control were all top notch.

    I have heard many say this stick is underpowered but I thought it was perfect, the 18 20 pattern still gave an abundance of spin and I felt I could put the ball wherever I wanted it. If I wasn't married to my Prestige Pro's, I would pick up one of these-I can't believe more people on these boards don't like them. I guess most people who use a thin beamed 18X20 stick want it to say Wilson or Head and not Babolat ;)
     
  43. ctdeuce

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    I agree with ya pal. I think the power is perfect for this stick all around, and im also shocked this isnt a more popular stick.
     
  44. rxblitzrx

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    I just got off court with my new 4 1/2 grip. It took about an hour to dial in but after I got situated, my game elevated to a slightly higher level. Leaving the racquet-twisting behind with the smaller gripped PSL, I was able to really tighten up and bomb groundstrokes all night. The 4 1/2 isn't as whippy as the 4 3/8 in my hand and that turned out to be a good thing; even though I liked whippy. The larger grip definitely agrees more with my strokes.

    I think I lost a tad on my serves because I can't whip the 4 1/2 like I could with the 4 3/8. My volleys need some adjustment too as the 1/2 doesn't maneuver as fast in my hand. However, when I stick them, it's much more solid. Overall, I'm surprised how much a larger grip changes the game for me. It's all about the way my wrist breaks as I swing.

    Another thing that may have changed my game is that this got strung tighter than my usual 55lbs. I don't know how that happened, but I like the tighter tension! You guys were right about it working well around 58lbs.
     
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  45. ctdeuce

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    yeah the 58-60 range is perfect for me with this stick. Odds are I will try out your 55 with the 18g strings and will end up either breaking them that day, or cutting them out to string tighter, haha. I love the control you get with a higher tension on this stick....its out of this world.
     
  46. TNT34

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    Blitz -
    Your comments about the affect of grip size on stroke production hit home to me. I've always used a 4 1/2 grip, but tried a 4 3/8 PSL demo and fell in love with the way I could really whip it. I'm in the process of obtaining a 4/12 grip PSL since that's my "natural" size, and am wondering how the new grip will affect my swing. I guess I'll find out soon. This racquet loves to be swung fast though, no doubt about that.

    Tim
     
  47. rxblitzrx

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    Hi Tim,

    The 4 1/2 definitely worked out better for me. I think I get less wrist breaking through the important areas of my swing. This translates into a more stable and solid impact. The 4 3/8 was almost too whippy and I would hit my forehand like Nadal sometimes. I hate that ugly crap. I'm back to a more Federer looking forehand, dare I make the comparison.

    Good luck with your new grip. One things certain is you picked the right stick. I absolutely love mine. It definitely likes to be swung fast and it rewards good form even more. There's nothing like getting a good shoulder turn and rotating into a forehand. The results are 70mph ground strokes for me. Darn near effortless because the frame is so light, stable and pinpoint accuracy.

    -Rob
     
  48. TNT34

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    Rob,

    I'm looking forward to the 4 1/2. I play around with how "wristy" I let my forehand get, running the gamut from keeping my wrist locked to letting it break a lot to really accelerate the racquet head. I'd never really thought about the grip size making it easier to hit one way or the other, but now that you mention it I guess it makes some sense.

    Anyway, thanks for your comments. Switching from Wilson to Babolat is bad enough, I don't want to start hitting like Nadal too! (In my dreams.)

    Tim
     
  49. rxblitzrx

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    Just a random update:

    I started removing my Wilson Pro Overgrip before I leave the courts each time. This way the least amount of sweat soaks into the leather grip. In any case, the overgrip isn't lasting me more than one outing.
     
  50. ctdeuce

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    I use yonex overgrips...i switched from wilson to yonex and they last me a whole 2 times on court rather than the 1 time wilson was lasting, haha....just an option
     

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