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  1. journeymonk

    journeymonk New User

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    Joining the Club...

    After trying so hard to make my Pure Storm Tour (original version) to work, I finally picked up a Pure Storm Limited GT.

    Chance of a lifetime at the local tennis shop. Been asking if they had the Limited for a while now, and got a surprise call last week.

    My setup:

    Racquet : Babolat Pure Storm Limited GT
    Strings : Babolat Revenge 17g at 55lbs.
    Overgrip : Babolat Pro Team Tacky (black)
    Others : Babolat Lead Tape, 3grams @ at 3 and 9

    A full Babolat setup. :)

    My impressions:

    >> The PSLGT definitely has more control. My problem with the PST was the inconsistency of shots--sometimes hitting it a little flat would send balls flying. With the PSLGT, I can definitely swing away with abandon, and not worry about hitting out.

    >> I feel that I don't miss any of the spin due to the 18x20 pattern. Maybe the less power generated by the racquet is encouraging me to hit flatter balls, as I do not need to impart (much) spin to keep it in. Will try some spin-friendly strings next time (TF Black Code). The racquet head speed I'm able to generate, though, I'm confident I can swipe at the ball to create spin if needed.

    >> Was finally able to execute one-handed backhands yesterday. I could not do this with the SW and mass of the PST. With the PSLGT, I could hit one-handed both wings due to the maneuverability and head light balance.

    >> My only disappointment has been in serves, so far. Getting used to the lack of mass in the hoop. My PST, with it's pop, was definitely giving me bigger results on the serve. I guess I'll have to re-learn this one.


    All in all, a great experience so far. I can really say that I'm enjoying playing tennis more with this racquet, and, at the end of the day, that's what matters.

    Will be looking to this thread for more support regarding stringing. See you guys around.


    Cheers!


    - mon -
     
  2. dacrymn

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    Don't mean to be selfish, but mind putting some pictures up?
     
  3. SlapShot

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    I've got 2 Pure Storm LTD's more en route - looks like TW threw them up on clearance. Get 'em while they're cheap. :)

    I'll now have 6, which is more than plenty for my needs.
     
  4. Dino Lagaffe

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    1) Weight: 342 g / 12.06 oz
    SW: 310
    Flex: 62
    Balance: 31 cm

    2) Weight: 339 g / 11.96 oz
    SW: 305
    Flex: 63
    Balance: 31 cm

    3) Weight: 340 g / 11.99 oz
    SW: 304
    Flex: 62
    Balance: 31 cm

    The only mod is an overgrip, the same kind on all three of them.
     
  5. morten

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    This is for the GT ltd?
     
  6. star 5 15

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    I believe those specs. I had mine customized to a 310SW and all of mine have at least 3-7 grams of lead at 3 and 9 oclock. Like if you look at m i d w e s t s p o r t s website you can see where their SW rating is a lot different and they follow the same procedure as TW. It really just depends on what batch of racquets you get. I asked my babolat rep when i saw the specs on tw and he said the specs did not change at all... TW's original batch was just on the heavier side of being out of the qc.
     
  7. Dino Lagaffe

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    Nope, pre-GT
     
  8. morten

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    i see........ :)
     
  9. SlapShot

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    A few gratuitous pics:

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  10. blackdot_fit

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    as the OP, it's been great to see that the PSL (both versions) have been garnering their share of loyal followers!

    i will admit, i ditched the PSLs (i had three) to try a whole load of other sticks. after a few months of demos, and another few months of non-tennis, i just placed an order for a new 1st gen PSL. it should be here by friday.

    it feels good to be back! :)


    now if i could just scrounge up enough change to buy two more......
     
  11. gpt

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    welcome back blackdot. we forgive you
     
  12. journeymonk

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    About to get my PSLGT restrung with Black Code. Used to be with Revenge 17g @ 55 lbs.

    I'd like more power. Any suggestions on tension for Black Code?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  13. KenC

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    A quick question for the PSLGT users: If I add 6g of lead tape split between 3 and 9 and then add an overgrip I suppose the balance would stay about the same, but the swingweight would increase. By how much, do you think?

    By my calculations this should bring the racquet to almost 350g. At that weight will the racquet still has the great playability that I read from this most informative thread?

    Thanks!
     
  14. SlapShot

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    What do your racquets weigh strung? Mine were right around 335-337g strung and overgripped with a Tournagrip. I added 10g to the head, bringing weight to 345g-347g, and SW is estimated in the upper 320's or lower 330's.

    I recently added lead at the top of the handle, and they're right around 350g strung and overgripped now.

    With the weight added, it becomes a much more potent frame, especially on serve. The feel is still there, but there's better pop when called upon.
     
  15. KenC

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    I'm demoing racquets now and the PSLGT is in queue. I just got done demoing a RQiS1 Tour and really liked it because it was heavy and very headlight. It got me thinking harder about the PSLGT and just adding enough weight to make my 1HBH happy. I seem to like about 350g +/- 5g.

    TW says the PSLGT weighs 337g stock, so how can yours be that with an overgrip? Tell me these racquets have great quality control and if I were to buy two or more they would be within a couple grams of each other.
     
  16. SlapShot

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    Of the 6, I bought 4 new, and 2 used. The 4 that were new were bought from 2 different stores.

    If memory serves me correctly, 3 of the 4 were 335g strung, and one was 338g. And now that I think of it, I did weigh them without overgrips. So yes, the QC is decent on the LTD for sure.
     
  17. KenC

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    Thanks for the clarification!
     
  18. c_hari_c

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    I recently purchased 30 inches of lead tape that is 1/4 inch thick and put it all in one of my PSL around the 3 and 9. The shop owner doesn't know how much the 1/4 inch thickness lead tape weighs. How much weight do you think I have added to the racket?
     
  19. SlapShot

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    Lead tape is generally 1g/sq in, so you put on 7.5 grams if you put on all 30 inches.
     
  20. dantesinferno18

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    I am about to order a few of the New GT ones
     
  21. phishua

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    Quick question for the group - I'm looking for an overgrip for my PSL, I'd like something thin (doesn't enlarge the handle too much), absorbent, and comfortable.

    I had thought to pick up some tournagrip, but I've never used it before.

    ...thoughts?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  22. SlapShot

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    The Tournagrip is anything but comfortable. They are absorbent and thin, though. Beware if you are succeptable to blisters, as they are relatively rough when they are dry, so they can rough your skin up.
     
  23. journeymonk

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    Wilson Pro Overgrip is nice. Just stretch it out nicely and tightly as you install.

    :)
     
  24. downs_chris

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    wilson pro overgrips are decent...if you want a slightly thicker version of that, i would go with the yonex supergrap...
     
  25. KenC

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    Tournagrip is great stuff in hot humid conditions. Sometimes I change tournagrip every hour or so in the summer. In the winter its better to use something more comfortable like the wilson pro or supergrap.

    If you haven't tried SuperGrap, its definitely worth a try. Incredible tack and comfy feel. I don't know how they are in the summer yet.
     
  26. Scotty D

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    I agree. Tournagrip seems to work best in the summer when the humidity is high. I find that dry grips work better in humidity. During the rest of the year I prefer a grip called Supreme made by Pointfore. They make grips and over grips for racquetball, squash, badmitten and tennis. It is difficult to find. But everyone I know who has used it, swears by it.

    If you can't find it, I would also try Wilson Profile Pro overgrip which has some lines in it which add texture to the tackiness.
     
  27. SlapShot

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    I use the Tournagrip year round, myself. In the winter, I'll usually just wet the grip down a touch before I hit the courts, and that makes it much more tacky and a touch softer.
     
  28. BoomerangX

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    Hey guys, I just ordered a few packs of lead tape and I'll be applying them once they arrive.

    Many said you should add a few grams in the handle. I have two questions--
    1. How much would you recommend?
    2. How exactly do I apply it to the handle? can I just tape it onto the inside of the buttcap?

    I'm not a very serious player, but I do enjoy improving my game and I would like to go all out in my final year of high school tennis. I don't have time to weigh my rackets and such, but just a nice approximation of how much tape to put in my handle would be nice.
    Thanks :)
     
  29. Dino Lagaffe

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    It depends on what you'd like to achieve. On my Head PT57A I just added two strips of lead on the pallet under the grip, which added 7 g / 0.25 oz . (See picture below.) This was mainly to get the balance I wanted. I wouldn't put lead in the buttcap.


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  30. BoomerangX

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    I see... The problem is that I don't want to remove the leather grip and then replace it again :(

    Would it be okay for me to just place the lead tape on top of my leather grip? I always have an overgrip on, but would it fall off or anything? Now that I think about it, it's not such a good idea...
     
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  31. KenC

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    I wouldn't worry about removing the grip, as putting it back exactly as it was is a piece of cake. Just don't put like 200 inches of lead on the handle and you should be fine.
     
  32. morten

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    i have 4 grams under buttcap(strips bent and secured using cotto, so it won`t rattle).) 10 grams at the end of leather, just on top, about 7 inches from buttcap(just wrap and overgrip on top) and 2 grams each (4 alltogether in the head)place at 2 and 10 o`clock, killer combo i can tell you, i have experimented a lot... :)
     
  33. BoomerangX

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    Hmm I see.
    Have you tried placing it at 3 and 9? If so, how does it compare?
     
  34. morten

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    Well, that`s what i tried first, but never got it right, besides, i had to use twice the amount of lead(8g) to get enough stability(go figure...!)making it too sluggish, and it was a bit too dead in the upper hoop for me (with lead at 9 and 3), but that`s me, i like headlight heavy rackets, i am not really a baseliner, more a finesse/volleyplayer. I also use very loose strings, 48lbs at the moment..
     
  35. BoomerangX

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    :shock: 48lbs? Dang that's amazing.
    Well I'll try out both and see what works best.
     
  36. pyrokid

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    well, I'm in. This racket just feels too good when you hit it well, and it goes right where you want to.
    Annoying, 'cause this was the only racket I didn't demo because I didn't think it would have enough power... So I bought different ones.
    Now I gotta buy some more again.
     
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  37. Shankapotomus

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    hey guys i need some advice. ive been using this frame on and off for about three years, constantly experimenting w/weight and all. My current set up is 4grams in the head @ 3&9 and 4grams in the handle right above th buttcap, strung w/black code 17g @ 55lbs. I love this racquet, but i feel like SOMETHING is missing in terms of finding the right weight setup. the max id add to the frame would be 10grams, any suggestions on placement? im just looking for something new to try
     
  38. Mansewerz

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    Anyone play this stock? How forgiving and arm friendly is it?
     
  39. KenC

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    I play it stock with an overgrip and MultiFeel 17g strung at 53/51 lbs. It's the most arm friendly racquet I ever used. It seems very forgiving to me, it's certainly more forgiving than the BLX90 and even the PDGT, a tweener racquet.

    You have to demo this racquet, it plays completely different than the typical power racquets of today. You'll either love it or hate it.
     
  40. journeymonk

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    Anyone noticed that the grip shape on the Pure Storm LTD GT is more rectangular? Comparing it to my old Pure Storm Tour (non-GT).
     
  41. pyrokid

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    Agree with the guy some posts above. Super arm friendly, even stock. I'm currently playing it stock, at least until I get used to it. I'll probably leave it that way, too, because I'm afraid I'll ruin the perfect volleys.
    And yes, demo it. It if way forgiving, too, more so than my APDCs.

    But what are people's thoughts on this compared to the ag200? I tried it, but it had crappy strings.
    It still felt way less smooth though.
     
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  42. morten

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    try moving lead from 3 and 9 to 2 and 10... it worked the best for me...
     
  43. Mansewerz

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    I definately need to try it out. How is the head stability?
     
  44. jaydubbs15

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    Emil, I demo'd the Pure Storm Tour recently and really loved it! I see that you liked it too and almost went with it over the Pure Storm Ltd. What changed your mind? What does the Pure Storm Ltd. have that the Pure Storm Tour doesn't? Please compare and contrast. Thanks!

    Jay
     
  45. pyrokid

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    Tons of people go on and on about how it needs lead to play its best, but I think that's kind of nonsense. I've only been playing with it for a few days, and as long as you know where to hit it, it's fine. Any stability issues I've had have been because of bad footwork.
    And on serve returns, just make sure to step in.
     
  46. KenC

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    The racquet head and pretty much the whole racquet feels very stable. I use a friend's BLX90 and they are the same IMO in terms of stability. Just note that the PSLGT has a low swingweight and is low powered compared to most racquets. This really freaks people out if they don't generate power with their body and instead need the racquet to generate power.


    They are two completely different racquets IMO. The PST has a lot of power and is great for baseliners. It plays more like the modern racquets. The PSLGT has specs that all-courters prefer, and plays much more like an old school racquet, more like very old school. For those of us who grew up with wooden racquets, the PSLGT is about the closest thing, in terms of feel, today.

    I continue to warn people, this is not a racquet you can buy on impulse. Yesterday I played a buddy who is 3-3.5 who plays with a modern tweener racquet and we switched racquets because he wanted to try my new stick. He had trouble hitting over the net. And I had trouble keeping the ball in.
     
  47. downs_chris

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    i'm coming back to the PSLGT club...after ditching this racquet at the end of last summer, i realize now that i miss it...haha...
     
  48. morten

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    the honeymoon syndrome is dangerous... been there many times...
     
  49. downs_chris

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    i've tried to hit with any and all frames...it's probably one of my (many) weaknesses...haha -- i think this is one of the better off-the-shelf frames out there...i look forward to the reunion at the end of this week...
     
  50. jaydubbs15

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    I think the players in this group like the Pure Storm Ltd. and not necessarily the Pure Storm Ltd. GT, which is an entirely different racquet. Am I wrong?

    Jay
     

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