the push is a punch, the punch is a push!

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by luvforty, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. luvforty

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    finally figured out the bird itch push tonight - guy on the other side was shocked how big i hit it..

    true E grip, more hammer than pistol, palm side base knuckles firmly behind bevel 3.... usual take a way... then PUNCH the forearm straight thru the ball (i.e. if there is a dry wall at the contact point, I'd punch a hole with my fist, let forearm goes thru the hole until my elbow reaches the hole).... Wegner's 'finding the ball with the hand' works well here.

    on the other hand, the so called punch in popular teaching of volley does not feel like a punch at all (unless you are a girl).... it's more like a push of a tilted windshield forward.

    how confusing is this stuff..... i think it's a conspiracy by the teaching pros to get people to buy more lessons.
     
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  2. LeeD

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    You can name it anything you want, describe it with fancy words, but it still comes down to groundstrokes and volleys.
     
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  3. sureshs

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    Aren't volleys supposed to be hit with conti?
     
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  4. luvforty

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    Conti is a rAnge. Lay the wrist back. Push the windshield forward
     
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  5. arche3

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    I think its also more confusing when you explain something.
     
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    :) I hope Luvforty isn't Asian, like Dozu is........
    Lots of explanations, few videos, and everything is explained more complicated than it can ever possibly be.....
     
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    dozu, where do you buy your stash cause that is one hell of a trip.
     
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    lol, you think it's really him?

    it certainly could be....
     
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  9. tennis_balla

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    Its the human racket himself
     
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  10. sureshs

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    I suppose you will argue that it is OK to say it because you are of Asian descent, but it isn't actually OK at all.
     
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  11. luvforty

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    balla what's the problem?
     
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  12. Cheetah

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    It's Dozu for sure.

    You can't always dictate what someone should feel. Volleys don't feel like a push at all to me in fact.
     
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  13. arche3

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    I claim the credit for unmasking dozu!
     
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  14. LeeD

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    One poster we all respect to some degree, PowerPlayer, basically said as much.
     
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  15. luvforty

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    Arche false claim
     
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    How confusing is what you've written - very!
     
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    lol. He's probably doing all this just to troll you guys that keep responding to him.
     
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  18. luvforty

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    sigh... all fluff and no answer..

    why is it necessary to drop the racket head below the wrist? (forget contact point for now)
     
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  19. arche3

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    Don't be a tool. Answer it then. Its not even a question that needs to be asked.

    My question for you. Why do you have to use your left foot?
     
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  20. WildVolley

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    If you hit your forehand flatter, other things equal, it will go faster. That's why you were hitting more pace when trying to emulate Berdych.

    luvforty, you are still too hung up on terminology. Stop focusing on terms like punch or push and study some video. Copy the motions that the pros make and it will help you achieve some of their results. You'll need to use video to see that your motion is the same, because our opinion of what we are doing is often deceptive.
     
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  21. Tight Lines

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    Me no comprendo :confused::confused::confused: And I read it three times....

    Harry
     
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