The reason why so many posters try to harm others rather than help them.

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by kiteboard, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. kiteboard

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    It's easier for them to destroy/harm than to build/help.
     
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  2. danno123

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    I'm all for helping other people (to the extent I can, as I'm not great). But does it really help anyone to make a post like:

    How am I supposed to work on that? I'm a simple person. Give me one or two concrete things to work on at a time. You know, wax on, wax off, rather than all the philosophy stuff.
     
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  3. LuckyR

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    ...example?
     
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  4. dominikk1985

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    maybe bashing other people boosts their ego more than constructive posts...

    Still there are quite a few guys with good posts here. even LeeD:D.

    In the other sections I also mostly spam around but here I try to post helpfull stuff:)
     
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  5. Long Face

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    I wouldn't seek advice on a public forum, in which I may be talking to a dog or my grandma who just learned how to use a computer.

    I would talk to somebody who actually hit that shot better than I do, or a coach.
     
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  6. blastforehand

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    One guy's drivel might be another's genius. A lot probably depends on the reader's mood. Kiteboard regularly makes a great effort, seems to have plenty of genius, and some of it gets through to me. I still recall and have been helped by his line from awhile back, "Eat your volleys." Now if I can somehow combine his "Kuerten drunken monkey, super loose upper" with "Bruce Lee chopchop lower" I might make more progress.
     
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  7. danno123

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    I need help on my volleying. What is the "eat your volleys" approach?
     
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  8. user92626

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    ..this thread.
     
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  9. sureshs

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    You can do both. You can get pointers from here and then go talk to some other people.

    In fact, it is much easier (and free) to do it here than go around from club to club looking for the guy with that better shot and hoping he will talk to you.

    Internet is the future.
     
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  10. Limpinhitter

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    Paranoia,
    The distroya,
    Na
    Na-na
    Na-na-na-na-na.
     
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  11. WildVolley

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    I'm not so sure about this. My impression is that most of the poor advice in this section is due to ignorance rather than malevolence.

    Also, the information to noise ratio is Tips/Instruction is much better than in any other section. The troll and idiot posts here are much fewer in number.
     
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  12. user92626

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    I'm not sure how true the OP's statement is, but I'm sure it's a lot easier for people to post craps than to help.
     
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  13. bukaeast

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    They want to display what they think is sparkling wit

    AND

    They want to get their message count up, so they can have a nifty title near their id.

    not - new user
     
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  14. r2473

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    Speak of the devil. I just moved into Legend status today :)

    (New User. What a loser)
     
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  15. LuckyR

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    I disagree, the folks here are of the most helpful variety
     
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  16. vil

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    We all come from different walks of life and backgrounds. I personally like these forums 'cos you can always get something out of it. If you are not interested, don't read it. If you think you need to improve your volleys or forehand or whatever, just make a post about it. I'm sure you get appropriate advice. It's simple as that. Here is a guy who brings a bit of philosophical perspective into it and all you read from other posters is trash.
     
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  17. user92626

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    I disagree with your disagreement that there isn't any putting down of others in here.

    (wait..is it "there is" or "there isn't"? Oh man..u got what i mean :))
     
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  18. slowfox

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    Well, in general it's easier to destroy than to create. Spend 5 hours building an elaborate house of cards, and it can be broken down in seconds.

    If you guys want philosophy, how about this: Posters can't try to harm/help cuz there is no "try". You do or do not, there is no try. Thanks Yoda... :)

    And btw, you can glean some jewels of info in this forum. But it's like shopping at Ross i.e. sorting thru a lot of crap to get one amazing find. And double btw, a tip I read here improved my second serve a lot. After I went out and tried (haha, try...) it, I was like holy moly it works. Ah ha moment. Thank you tips-instructions section.

    So I do agree with kite, but how is his statement gonna help our game..?
     
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  19. Up&comer

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    This is a perfect example of why people are so quick to shoot down your advice.

    You always seem to be posting for the sake of arguing with people.
     
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  20. UCSF2012

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    Tennis lessons are better on the court than showing someone a series of screencaps.
     
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  21. vil

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    That's true but it's still good to know the theory behind it.
     
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  22. spaceman_spiff

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    Well, when a person types out a bunch of nonsense, there are only two potential responses: completely ignore it or point out the fact that it's rubbish.

    For example, your last "helpful" thread took a fairly simple concept (separation of movements) and turned it into a stream of nonsense about concious/unconcious internal body clocks/engines and gladiator shielded arcs.

    Now, if you had managed to write a coherent post about separating the movements of the upper body from the movements of the lower body, which allows you to execute your preparation/swing properly while moving into position, then perhaps people would have joined in the discussion rather than cracking jokes.

    This is the reason why so many universities stress the importance of good composition skills. You can have all the great ideas you want but they won't get you anywhere unless you learn to express your thoughts coherently to others.
     
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  23. r2473

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    I don't understand a word of what you just said Spaceman.

    Could you please rewrite your idea in terms of concious/unconcious internal body clocks/engines and gladiator shielded arcs so it's comprehensible?
     
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  24. Limpinhitter

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    You are a very tolerant, patient man . . . and a killjoy, too.
     
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  25. Ash_Smith

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    I dont think (generally speaking) that anybody in the instruction forum sets out to deliberately harm or hinder anybody. I read plenty of posts offering advice which I resolutely disagree with, as they don't meet with my own experiences or knowledge. However, the poster in question may have no other reference so they post what they believe to be useful advice, I am certainly not going to tear into them for trying to harm the OP, they just may not know any different.

    P.S. Kiteboard if you're reading this I necro'd your "weaponize" thread with a few q's for you.

    Cheers
     
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  26. guitarplayer

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    Best post evarrrr
     
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