The serve - components of racquet head drop

oldhacker

Semi-Pro
A while ago we had an interesting thread on the components of fast serves that many players were missing and many suggested that it is common for players to lose out on racquet head drop. I have been trying to think about what contributes to achieving a decent 'head drop' and have come up with the following:

1. Lose grip and relaxed arm. A lose grip not only drops the racquet head a couple of inches compared to a tight grip but also makes for a more relaxed wrist and arm which will allow gravity to pull it down further.

2. Supination. This is rotating the hand palm up from the elbow joint. It does not involve shoulder joint rotation. I reckon most mortals have about a 180 degree range of movement between full supination (palm up) and full pronation (palm down) and the elbew joint pretty much locks out at those extremes. So for maximum head drop you need to get your hand fully supinated in the wind-up. If you relax it gravity should do the trick.

3. Shoulder rotation. I reckon this is a hard one to fathom as it is tricky to separate from supination. The best way I can desribe what I mean to to imagine your upper arm straight out from your side (in the horizontal plane) with your elbow bent at 90 degrees so the you forearm is in the vertical plane. From this position the rotation to get the racquet head to drop is to rotate the upper arm backwards using the shoulder joint so that the forearm drops behind you. I think this is the one which varies greatky from player to player and where some big servers with super flexible shoulders (such as Roddick) get that extra drop. I think for most players it is probably dangerous to try to force this rotation during the wind-up as you could easily damage your shoulder. Best to work on flexibility and rotator cuff strength off court and left gravity and the movement of the body create the rotation naturally on a relaxed arm.

4. Leg bend - an easier one to fathom as the pushing forward of the front hip and bending of the legs will cause the hitting shoulder to drop lower than the non-hitting shoulder.

5. Arm position - this is one I struggle with and have been told I get wrong and am working on. I got too wrapped up in the backscratch visualisation and ended up fully closing the elbow joint (so my forearm was against my bicep) in order to get the racquet head as low as I could in the windup. But this seems wrong as it results in poor mechanics and an inefficeient throwing motion. I think it is best to keep the forearm at about 90 degrees to the upper arm. What do others think?

6. What have I missed?

Working on the above together with tossing more into the court and concentrating on full pronation and extension into the court has certainly zipped up my serve and it all looks a lot more relaxed and classic. And despite having a shoulder problem I can serve noticeably harder and more consistantly (I am not forcing it so much) than I could before I damaged my shoulder.
 

10sfreak

Semi-Pro
"From this position the rotation to get the racquet head to drop is to rotate the upper arm backwards using the shoulder joint so that the forearm drops behind you." - oldhacker
I disagree a bit with this part. I don't believe anyone "rotates" his/her upper arm to that position, as I don't think we have the muscle to even begin to put the arm in the position that it winds up in. I think it happens with a loose, relaxed shoulder, and that it's the inertia of the racquet that makes it drop down when we thrust upward with our legs. The racquet, held with a loose, relaxed shoulder, "lags" behind the rest of the body, pulling the arm down with it, creating elastic energy, which adds to the serve's pop.
 

oldhacker

Semi-Pro
hi 10sfreak - I completely agree. If you read on in my original post you will see that I wrote:

"I think for most players it is probably dangerous to try to force this rotation during the wind-up as you could easily damage your shoulder. Best to work on flexibility and rotator cuff strength off court and left gravity and the movement of the body create the rotation naturally on a relaxed arm."


"From this position the rotation to get the racquet head to drop is to rotate the upper arm backwards using the shoulder joint so that the forearm drops behind you." - oldhacker
I disagree a bit with this part. I don't believe anyone "rotates" his/her upper arm to that position, as I don't think we have the muscle to even begin to put the arm in the position that it winds up in. I think it happens with a loose, relaxed shoulder, and that it's the inertia of the racquet that makes it drop down when we thrust upward with our legs. The racquet, held with a loose, relaxed shoulder, "lags" behind the rest of the body, pulling the arm down with it, creating elastic energy, which adds to the serve's pop.
 

FitzRoy

Professional
To answer your question about whether anyone is interested in this - yeah, I am. I've been thinking about my serve a lot lately because it's broken down somewhat in recent months. I'm pretty sure that I could help matters by achieving a better racquet drop, but I encounter a problem...basically, any time I focus specifically on trying to do certain things in terms of technique, I mess my rhythm up and my serve loses all of its pop. So I have trouble really trying specific technical elements.

I wonder if there's some way to incorporate a better racquet drop that doesn't involve concentrating on technique...IE, some kind of way to "trick" yourself into doing it, without trying to do it directly.
 

oldhacker

Semi-Pro
Hi Fitzroy - I know the feeling ! I have been forced to learn new, more correct, technique for most of my tennis shots of late due to a shoulder problem I have. And it is very hard to change the muscle memory. The only way I can find is to keep doing the new technique until it becomes natural to do it without thinking. I have found it helps not to play matches but rather just to practice during this period as in a match situation I cannot help reverting to my old technique and when I do use new technique I get frustrated when it does not work for me. The serve is about the hardest shot to remodel as there is just so much to think about. One good thing about good racquet drop is that I think the key is in getting the arm and wrist position right in the early stages of the takeback, while your weight is transfered to the back foot. Once I have it in place I do not have to think about it during the more tricky firing the body and exploding to the ball sequence as garvity and inertia take care of it for me.

To answer your question about whether anyone is interested in this - yeah, I am. I've been thinking about my serve a lot lately because it's broken down somewhat in recent months. I'm pretty sure that I could help matters by achieving a better racquet drop, but I encounter a problem...basically, any time I focus specifically on trying to do certain things in terms of technique, I mess my rhythm up and my serve loses all of its pop. So I have trouble really trying specific technical elements.

I wonder if there's some way to incorporate a better racquet drop that doesn't involve concentrating on technique...IE, some kind of way to "trick" yourself into doing it, without trying to do it directly.
 

oldhacker

Semi-Pro
Does anyone have any views on racquet position during take back for the serve? I have noticed most pros hold it high (tip of head pointing up to the sky) which I think means they have not yet supinated or laid back the wrist. With the takeback I have worked out to help my serve I lay back and supinate the wrist early on so that the tip of the head is more pointing at the back fence than the say. For me I think supinating and laying back the wrist from the start means one less thing to do later on when there are a lot of other things going on. Any views?
 
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