The silliest game: baseball

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  1. topspin

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    I got to admit that I'm not a big fan of this game, but playoff time, I usually watch a few innings. And doing so tonight while watching game 7 of the yanks and sox, I realized how disgusting this game really is. Practically every frame of coverage involves some sort of chewing and spitting by players on the field, players on the bench, and yes, even the umpires. And to top it all off, they are all grown men wearing pyjama like uniforms. I know the game is heavy on tradition, but anyone who looks at it objectively has to realize that it's really a very silly and boring game for the most part.
     
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  2. chad shaver

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    You are entitled to your opinion.
     
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  3. Redferrari350

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    Topspin, you must be a ****.
     
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  4. chad shaver

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    Nah, just mad cuz the Expos left. Talk about a shame....
     
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    Have to agree with topspin on this one. If the game can be played with a big wad of tobacco in one's mouth, it's not a real sport.

    Sure, i know I will never throw that well and I could never get a bat on the ball against one of those pitchers . . . but I cannot drive a golf ball 300m either - that doesn't make golf a real sport. I cannot execute a triple-axel, but that doesn't make figure skating a real sport either. Truth be told, there are a helluva lot fewer fat, drugged-up old men in the figure skating rinks than there are in the baseball playoffs.

    And the announcers - give me a break! - if a guy manages to sprint around the bases without falling down they make comparisons to Michael Jordan in terms of athleticism. It's such a joke!

    Bottom line: Be honest, just because its played by red-necks and their urban equivalents who could kick your *** in a bar-room brawl doesn't make it a real sport.
     
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  6. perfmode

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    I have to agree with Bob and Spin. Baseball is really a joke of a sport. How often does your heartrate get elevated when you're playing baseball?
     
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  7. chad shaver

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    You are entitled to your opinion. Just change the channel.
     
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  8. drakulie

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    hardest thing to do in all of sports is hit a baseball and get on base. A player who is successfull 25 % of the time could make a great living playing baseball. That is how hard it is. Imagine if a professional tennis player only got his first serve in 25 % of the time?
     
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    While baseball is a very difficult sport to be good at, and I enjoyed playing when I was little, it is completely boring to watch. I'd actually sooner watch golf. *shrug*

    NOTE: That's not to say I like Golf, or would actually watch it.
     
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  10. Kevin T

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    Baseball is the bomb, pure and simple. Nothing better on a late summer evening. It has been scientifically proven that hitting a baseball coming at you in excess of 90mph is the toughest skill in sports. Just think what's going through the batter's mind: curveball? screwball? fastball? slider? change-up? knuckle? split-finger? Will it crack me in the head and kill me? Go to your local batting cage and get into the 80mph booth. Then add 15mph to that speed with the possibility of 5 or so different pitches coming at you and you'll get the idea. Takes a big sack to stand in there against a high hard one. Position players are excellent athletes when you judge them in terms of speed/agility/reflexes/hand-eye coordination/strength/power. Pitchers can be fat and out of shape but every watch the WTA? That whole tour is full of fat chicks. Where is their cardiovascular fitness? And remember that some of the games' great players were multi-sport talents (Deion Sanders-decent baseball player but a great football player, Bo Jackson, Dave Winfield, Tony Gwynn-Gwynn had pro-level talent in bball and basketball, Winfield could have played those two plus pro football). Maybe some tennis pros could have been soccer players but that's about it.
     
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  11. VashTheStampede

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    I don't like watching baseball either. Half of the time, all you see are the players sitting on a bench chewing gum and spitting. Then, finally you see the pitcher actually throw the ball! What happens, BALL!!!! The whole process starts all over again.
     
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    Kevin, well said.
     
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  13. perfmode

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    A more realistic comparison is breaking serve 25% of the time, which is what pro's do.
     
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    so...i am a baseball fan,and if you compare it to golf in terms of whether or not its a sport as opposed to a game....well you're crazy. golf is a game, like bowling. try and dig up a couple relatively high level baseball players and toss it around. or try to bat against them. trust me, your heart rate will be way up and your nutsack will be about the size of a ping pong ball. you have to react to what someone else is doing,as opposed to hitting a still ball on the ground. you telling me playing the field is not athletic? just like tennis, higher level b-ball is alot harder than it looks. kevin t, i'm shocked gwynn was a good basketball player. dude was short and fat.
     
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  15. Camilio Pascual

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    I am a total dyed-in-the-wool baseball fan. As a pitcher, catcher, baserunner, or the batter, the complexities of what is going on and what you have to think about are astounding. You need a virtual brain trust on the bench to help you, too. SI has described it as the most complicated team sport and I agree.
    I am amused by the woeful ignorance of baseball by most, not all, of the baseball detractors here. That's okay. I know little and care less about soccer and hockey. That doesn't make them useless or silly activities to those who are knowledgeable about them, derive enjoyment from watching them, or are skilled at playing them. Soccer is a comparatively simple sport that uses minimal equipment, but requires good endurance. That makes it an excellent internatonal sport.
     
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  16. Cruzer

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    Topspin is just ticked off not only because the Expos packed up and left town escaping the biggest eye sore of a stadium in North America. I wonder if the citizens of Montreal are still paying off this financial disaster from the 1976 Olympics. It only cost about 3000% more than the original budgeted amount. Topspin is also probably down because Le Habs are not playing and will not likely be playing any time soon. It will be an even longer, colder winter in Montreal with no NHL this season.

    Claims that baseball is a silly game only come from those that don't understand the complexities and subtleties of the game and appreciate the amount skill required to play at the Major League level.
     
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    Baseball is definitely a skilled sport. Those balls hit and thrown at you are so fast. I couldn't even imagine trying to get in front of a ball coming that fast. A tennis ball perhaps but it's soft. The baseball is like a rock. I bet most people who get a baseball hit at them at over 100mph would be more worried about getitng out of the way much less trying to catch it.

    Watching it is definitely deceiving. Wait until you play it. Swinging the bat can really put some strain on your body especially when trying to hit it out of the ballpark. That takes some major strength plus coordination.
     
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    Excellent points Brett, Camilio, Cruzer, Biggie. My Pops played AAA bball, so I have a soft spot for the sport. I have been hit by tennis balls going over 120mph, dead in the chest. It hurts for a few seconds, then you are over it. People have been killed by baseball shots to the chest and dome. There is no comparison in the strength it takes to swing a 12 or 13oz racquet versus a 34+oz WOOD bat. I would love to know what the comaparison is in terms of reaction time required for a hitting a 95mph fastball versus a 130mph serve. One thing I know for sure is that a bball player has a bat that's about 3 inches across at the widest point while the tennis player has a 90+sq inch frame. No dogging tennis; I love it more than baseball but those guys have SKILLZZ. No game requires more strategy (NL anyway) and no game has the tradition, IMHO.
     
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    I'm really sorry that people can't enjoy a good game of baseball anymore. Honestly, how the times have changed. People may think it's boring to watch and all that bologna, but truth is, 99% of baseball players are better athletes than any of us with ever dream of. Just because some of them can't run a 4.4 40 means that they're not professional athletes. I challenge anybody to go out and try and hit a 95 mph fastball or a breaking ball that drops a foot and a half right over the plate. And i challenge anybody to run from second to home and try not getting thrown out by a big leaguer, tough thing to do. I'm sorry folks, but baseball is more than a SPORT, it's our national past time.
     
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  20. Camilio Pascual

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    You know what is as hard to hit as a 95 mph fastball? The 78-82 mph change up coming after it. If there was a 95 mph fastball following the first one, you'd have a good chance of hitting it.
     
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    lets respect the other sports as they respect ours. not that im saying your wrong in your opinion but i see it from two sides. for one i like tennis-a sport of tradition and prestige. manners and rules. on the other hand i love motocross. yes, the dirty, loud, fast boys on fast bikes sport. when im not keeping up with tennis pros im watching the mx pros, such as bubba and rc. (by the way, post if you do too or if you know who they are). but my point is lets respect other people's interests. they are just as passionate about their sports be it ping pong or baseball as we are about tennis.
     
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  22. topspin

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    Ok I don't have time to reply to so many of the idiotic comments here, but enough with this B.S. I never said it didn't require skill and all that, I just said it looks silly to see every frame of tv coverage include a grownup chewing and spitting. Any sport or pass time like baseball is made to look silly with such behaviour.

    And actually, believe it or not, the hockey lockout doesn't bother me much. The game is not nearly as interesting as it used to be, it's all about business now.

    Anyhow, feel free to continue this thread discussing what constitutes a "sport" or not. But this wasn't what the original thread was about.
     
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    c'mon man. suck it up. take it like a man. our comments are not "idiotic." dont try to put us down to defend yourself. we gave you a chance to give your opinion now listen to ours. :lol:
     
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    Not all the comments were idiotic, but some were. I don't have a problem with listening to opinions. I'm pointing out that the opinions are not relating to the original thread.

    I'll reply some more about the game of baseball in general when I have time.
     
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    Chewing and spitting is just part of the game. I was watching a special on Outside the Lines i think on espn, and it talked about how baseball and chew were hand in hand. It explained how one generation of ball players grew up watching their idles chew which caused them to chew and then so on and so on. Point is, chewing is a part of baseball and probably always will be until chewing tobacco is ruled an illegal drug or some drastic measure. Chewing is addictive as most people know and the ball player doesnt care if it's hurting him at the moment, all he cares about is how that dip makes me feel at home and makes him perform his best. I know that sounds weird but Chipper Jones of the atlanta braves gave that exact explanation about what he felt like chewing.

    Finally, baseball is a perfectly normal sport. I love all kinds of sports and from different ends of the spectrum, all the way from tennis to football and football to racing. There's nothing silly about baseball. If you ever played it, you would probably think differently.
     
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    I played it, and I still think it is silly. I can play it all afternoon in the hot sun with a big wad of gum in my mouth and not break a sweat. That's what separates it from "real sports" in my mind. I'm not saying it doesn't take skill or brains.

    "America's pastime" - yeah, that about sums it up.

    Pastime - n. a way of spending spare time pleasantly, anything done for recreation or diversion, as a hobby.

    Of course there are several definitions of "sport" - one of which is "pastime", but I prefer the one that goes like this "activity, especially when competitive, that requires vigorous bodily exertion and carried on according to some traditional set of rules."

    In my opinion, baseball falls short of that definition, but maybe I'm just a lot fitter than you.
     
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    "I can play it all afternoon in the hot sun with a big wad of gum in my mouth and not break a sweat."

    Do you not have sweat glands? :lol:
     
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    I was going to write essentially what Camilio wrote in his first post - about the complexities, all the options and potentials one must consider before deciding which base to throw to, or whether to go first to third on a single...

    What is clear is that most of those who criticize baseball simply don't understand it. They see but one dimension of this three dimensional game. Some even criticize it because they are frustrated that they don't understand it - and so want to portray it as mere insignificant stupidity.

    I have a couple of friends (a Czech and a Russian) whose description of baseball as they see it is hilarious. It is similar to some of the descriptions written in this thread - about spitting, standing around, etc. This is because that is what they see - and that is what they see simply because they don't understand how the game works. They don't know the rules, let alone the 'unwritten rules'. They obviously don't understand the strategy. No matter how much I try to explain baseball to my foreign friends, they simply can't understand it. I tell them that 4 year old kids learn the game - surely they can. They simply laugh...

    I grew up playing baseball - I hit a baseball long before I hit a tennis ball. I played organized ball from age 5 to age 12. I got back into it at age 22, and played three years in a semi-pro league. About ten years ago, I got drilled in the ribs by a 90 mph fastball. The guy who threw the pitch had once been drafted by the Phillies (perhaps they gave up on him due to his lack of control). The pitch ruptured my spleen slightly. I spent the next two years peeing blood. Also had my collarbone fractured when a runner tried to run through me (I did tag him out).

    I've known a few Major League players. Got a Major Leaguer's second baseman's glove sitting right in front of me - I may use it next year - thinking seriously of getting back into it. I love the game of baseball. I despise the business of baseball.

    John Kruk, who was not exactly the most physically fit baseball player, was warming up for a game ten years ago or so. Naturally, part of his warm-up ritual involved spitting tobacco onto the field. A woman yelled out to him from the stands "Hey, Kruck - you're disgusting! Look at you - you call yourself an athlete?" Kruk shot back "Lady, I'm no athlete - I'm a ballplayer!"

    Whether it qualifies as a sport or not, I could not care less. There is something inexplicably magical about it to those who understand. That's all that matters.
     
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    I'll have to defer to Kevin T, Camilio and (gulp) Deuce on this one. Those who criticize baseball normally pick-up on the shallow and unimportant aspects-as Topspin did. Spitting tobacco? Who tf cares? And you know why these people will NEVER understand the game, other than their permanent closemindedness? Television. The way television shows baseball is criminal. The limitations of the small screen are truely evident once you've seen the game live. 80% of TV coverage is the pitcher and batter-the rest of the coverage is where the ball is hit/thrown-what the REST of the players do on the field is incidental and if you DO get to see that, it's an accident-something caught as the camera pans the field.

    Sitting 15-20 rows from the field, between home plate and third base is the ideal vantage point from which to absorb the subtle, and not-so-subtle dynamics of the game. And, anyone who'se actually PLAYED the game at one time or another has even greater insight into what's going on out there. It's a chess match-how fielders position themselves, watching the dance of the shortstop and second baseman as a baserunner leads off second, feignting, juking...It's poetry, man. Don't let some idiot tell you otherwise. I've had the pleasure of taking foreigners to games and explaining, in layman's terms, the goings-on on the field, and it's great to watch their eyes open to the possibilities of the game. Nice to see them GET IT, unlike some people here!
     
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  30. Brettolius

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    so true phil, so true...
     
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    Yeah right, it makes me laugh to see how those who happen to like the game will claim that anyone that doesn't like it simply doesn't understand the game. In my experience, such people are delusional and unwilling to face reality. And they will usually criticize a real sport like soccer.

    In my case, I have been to many baseball games and played a lot of it too. It's got its moments, but it's just too boring to wait around for your turn to bat, or to stand in the outfield inning after inning not getting to make any plays. Even playing a slow game like golf keeps you a lot more busy because you have to prepare your next shot right away. You're never just standing around doing nothing.

    The spitting thing is not necessary. The game would add a touchof class if they just cut this useless disgusting habit out of the game. 99.99% of all the baseball spitters don't have anything to spit about because they're just sitting around doing nothing. I can understand if they were working hard at full physical exhaustion like a hockey player and they need to spit, but it's just a silly habit that people develop when they have way too much time on their hands.

    Oh and btw, I tuned to the game last night, and within less than 10 seconds, yup, you got it, there was spitting, and it was by a player just standing around.

    The best way to describe the difference in perception and reality about the game of baseball is to look at a particular episode of the Simpsons. I'm sure you all remember it, Homer gives up alcohol and goes to watch a baseball game and stay sober this time. You see him watching the "action", you hear the announcer describing what's going on, and then homer just says "I never realized how boring this game really is" :lol:

    My dad used to work at Jarry stadium when the Montreal Expos first started their franchise. He didn't know what the game was about, but was curious. After over an hour of watching the "action", he asked a co-worker when the warmup session would end and they would start the game. The co-worker replied that the game had already started for like an hour :lol: A simple experience like that just kind of says it all.
     
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  32. chad shaver

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    You are entitled to your opinion. You've stated it. You don't have to watch. Thank you. Good-bye.
     
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    And you are just like your dad... don't have a clue.
     
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  34. topspin

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    Chad, if you don't like this thread, you don't have to read it or post. Thank you and goodbye to you too then.

    And in case you haven't noticed, this thread has changed from its original intent. You do know how to read now don't you??? And I'm perfectly comfortable in discussing the game of baseball itself and not just the silliness around it.

    Redferrari, nice to see you make a yet another dumb idiotic comment (like you've already done in the past). Very mature to try and insult my dad when you've never met the man.

    You guys are clown and a complete joke. So in staying with the "joke" theme, here's one you should read by George Carlin:

    "Baseball is different from any other "sport", very different. For instance, in most sports you score points or goals; in baseball you score runs. In most sports the ball, or object, is put in play by the offensive team; in baseball the defensive team puts the ball in play, and only the defense is allowed to touch the ball. In fact, in baseball if an offensive player touches the ball intentionally, he's out; sometimes unintentionally, he's out.

    Also: in football,basketball, soccer, volleyball, and all sports played with a ball, you score with the ball and in baseball the ball prevents you from scoring.

    In most sports the team is run by a coach; in baseball the team is run by a manager. And only in baseball does the manager or coach wear the same clothing the players do. If you'd ever seen John Madden in his Oakland Raiders uniform,you'd know the reason for this custom.

    Now, I've mentioned football. Baseball & football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values.

    I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

    Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
    Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

    Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
    Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

    Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
    Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

    In football you wear a helmet.
    In baseball you wear a cap.

    Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
    Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

    In football you receive a penalty.
    In baseball you make an error.

    In football the specialist comes in to kick.
    In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

    Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
    Baseball has the sacrifice.

    Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
    In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

    Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
    Football has the two minute warning.

    Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
    Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

    In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
    In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

    And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

    In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

    In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!"
     
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    Topspin,

    You think I'm a clown? You should see me with my red nose and over-sized shoes....

    Good-bye, but thanks for the Carlin...such a wise and funny man.
     
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    Topspin, everything stated below is tongue-in-cheek.

    Baseball may be silly, disgusting and boring to you, but it's apparently not so much so that you won't write volumes about it.
    This begs a question: why are you so adamant about it all? I mean really, you talked about how silly you thought it was, but you turned right around and watched more. Is it like a train wreck for you or something?

    I don't find much interesting about hockey, basketball or soccer, so I don't watch. I don't, however, put the sports down to those who do enjoy them. Just my thoughts.
     
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    Chad - I believe Topspin's bitterness towards the game originates from his inability to make the neigborhood pee wee league team. As an uncoordinated and geeky 8-year old, he realized that sports was a quick and easy way to raise his self esteem, receive respect from his fellow pee wees and get a bit of pee wee nookie on the side. But alas, he was summarily CUT from the team-before he even stepped up to the plate. As he departed, followed by the cruel cackling taunts of the more coordinated pee wees, one of the coaches, a man called "Bugs" shot a long stream of Red Man in the direction of our tragic and athletically-challenged young reject. In Topspin's uncoordinated attempt to escape the laser-like stream, he actually stumbled right into it, with the vile liquid landing square on the side of his pencil-like neck, and oozing down onto his freshly pressed yellow Champion-brand sweatshirt, which would never again look freshly anything. From that day forward, the boy's carried the duel aversion to baseball and all forms of expectoration. Hence, about 45% of his posts on this thread focus on SPITTING. He is a scarred individual.

    TopSpin - There is nothing WRONG with not being able to understand and appreciate the game. Apparently, for you, it's genetic (You know, dad? Jarry Park?). Many people dislike it, misunderstand it and don't care about it. Fine. But, VOICING your ignorant opinions in a public forum will, of course, expose you to those with more knowledge on the subject. Have fun, Mr. Bullseye.

    And...GO CARDS.
     
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    To answer you Chad, I haven't watched a complete single baseball game in years. This is playoff time and the whole NY vs Bos thing caught my curiosity so I decided to tune in, but only when the series reached game 7 and it was in the later 2/3 of the game. And I don't know if the spitting rate was higher that night as opposed to others, but it just made me sick to not be able to see 5 seconds of coverage without some fluid flying out of someone's mouth. The 10 seconds I saw the other night was just to check to see if the spitting was still going on, and yup it was, so I tuned out. You really don't have to worry about me watching baseball in any serious extent, because I haven't and I won't.

    I expected to get nasty replies to this thread and so far none relate to my original post. It's all about how skilled you have to be to play baseball and so on. And read carefully, I never said anthing about skill. Curling requires a ton of skill too, and although I enjoy watching some curling, I won't exactly state things about the game that aren't there. Same thing with baseball: I haven't stated anything that isn't true. Players, coaches, umpires DO SPIT like there's no tomorrow.

    The replies here haven't addressed the key point to this thread. And these posters will simply tell themselves over and over that what I'm saying stems from a lack of understanding. They cannot accept the fact that someone can find the game boring and silly even if they understand everything about the game itself. So they tell themselves that anyone who criticizes baseball must not understand it.

    And I'm not telling anyone here not to enjoy the game if they choose to. I really couldn't care less if they do or not.

    Phil, I started to read your post but got boooooored even more so than watching baseball. So sorry but you're childish attempt at humor has failed to keep me interested enough to even read it through.
     
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    You got bored, Topspin, because you missed the point. That happens with people like you. That is why you started this thread in the first place, isn't it-because you entirely miss the point (of the Game)?
     
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    Okay, here is your original message. Half of it was about chewing and spitting, it was well covered in this thread why some think you obsess on it. Your second point was about the uniforms resembling pajamas. The thread is probably better for no one responding to that, did you really eagerly anticipate some discussion of it? Your last sentence has the gall to claim that those who look "objectively" (who are they, people who obsess on spitting?) at the game realize it is silly and boring. What were you expecting as a response, really?
     
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    Camilio, I don't obsess about spitting, why would you even say such a thing is beyond me. In fact, the point I'm trying to make is that baseball is obsessed with spitting. So of course, this means you totally missed the point too.

    As for my last line, I did say, as you also quoted, "And to top it all off". So clearly this was an addition to the main point. And I already said I'm not surprised that all the replies focused more on this. But clearly, no one has yet to give any explanation for the spitting, the pyjamas, the manager also wearing the pyjamas and so on.
     
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    Topspin,

    Ok, we get it. You don't like that baseball players spit (or are obsessed with spitting). You don't some of us on this board because we're idiots, clowns, and complete jokes (maybe even rednecks).

    You find the game boring and silly, which is fine. If you could care less, why did you bother posting this on a tennis message board?

    You've stated your opinion. Some of us don't agree. Let it go.
     
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    Chad, are you some self-appointed Tennis Warehouse forum supervisor who should decide what we can post? I think not, so stop acting like some big shot ok. I posted because I FELT LIKE IT....OK??? If that's not ok with you, why don't you just move on to the next thread and continue your board supervisor duties, sheeeeeeesh
     
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    As I said in my first post on this thread, you are entitled to your opinion...over and over and over....

    Perhaps I am now antagonizing you because I FEEL LIKE IT. It's working, too.
     
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    Yeah you wish. Really mature though, nice to see your true colors (as a clown) coming through loud and clear, over and over and over again...... You baseball lover you, LOL.
     
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    Nice, timely response. One minute or less. I actually made an edit, go back and re-read it. Looks like I was right about the antagonizing....
     
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  47. topspin

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    Yeah it's fun to antagonize someone you've never met before, sitting behind your little keyboard there, isn't it? I made a mod on my previous post too, check it out.
     
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    You are correct, sir. I am a baseball lover (over and over again). And actually, yes, it is kinda fun to antagonize you.

    Do they have a World Series of Curling, by any chance?
     
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    Topspin, to my knowledge, it's kinda hard not to spit when you have chew in your mouth. And to those of you who say, "well a lot of them don't use chew", i say to you this: it's a habit picked up from as far back as bush league for sompe people. You always wanted to act and play like your favorite major leaguer and then it becomes habit. Trust me, it's happened to me and many other people that I've played alongside with.
     
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    Chad, you aren't very perceptive if you believe that you are antagonizing me. But hey, whatever makes you happy.

    Khs_tennis, that's very true, and I can understand that. When players are just standing around doing nothing for hours on hours, they find ways to pass the time. And chewing and spitting seems to be the main passtime for ball players. So the slow pace of the game has influenced this disgusting habit to develop.

    As for the manager wearing uniforms, just think how silly it is. Imagine if Serena and Venus' dad dressed up like a tennis player, or even with those boots Serena was wearing at the us open. Or imagine the same thing in hockey, football, basketball, and on and on.
     
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