Hi I've been a long time tennis player since I was 7 years old, and I've gone through the juniors as a top #3 national player in age groups until the 18's. I also played on tour for 6 years and now I am a private coach of 2 kids. Going through tennis life and playing with only the best of the best and the best coach's, even though I'm not old enough to get respect from the parents I know a little bit more than an average tennis parent. The point to is I'm having trouble explaining the counter-punching style of tennis. I completely agree with your post and I said the same thing to the parent of my student and they disagreed with me. They came to me and showed me the book Maximum Tennis by Nick Saviano(Which I've met and been coached by him once before). I can't remember exactly what it says but basically it said that a counter-puncher is considered a defensive player and they are called "pushers". And in professional tennis there are no counter-punchers since the balls are hit hard and with fast pace. When I saw this in the book I was dumbstruck... I've never in my tennis life heard one coach saying that a counter puncher is a pusher. There are some counter punching baseliners in pros that I am thinking. One player I can think on top of my head would be Davydenko. Also in the book it said that Arantxa Sánchez Vicario is a counter puncher... I've always heard and thought that she was a retriever... I know you've written it in your first post but in my word and knowledge, "pushers" do not generate spin on their ball and it just floats rather than generating their own pace and cutting through the air like a "grinders" ball which has a lot of topspin, which is the same thing you said... Are counter punchers, pushers in your opinions? Am I wrong about this? I am getting a lot of stress going through everything with me on what is right and wrong... Thanks for reading the post and thanks again for all the future replies.