Thanks FlamEnemy, I appreciate that very much. I'll certainly keep contributing what I can. Pmerk34, no I'm not trying to convince anyone of who the greatest player is. Though I think it's Borg, I don't think it's by very much at all. My posts will likely not change anyone's set opinion on that topic. It takes a whole lot to be the greatest amongst all the great players that have walked onto a tennis court over the decades. The only thing I try to do is force people to look at this topic in ways that they may not have before. Many are too focused on only the "current" and "most recent" when it comes to tennis and life in general. As I've stated hundreds of times, calling someone the "greatest player ever" must NECESSARILY be a SUBJECTIVE and OBJECTIVE calculation, because you are forced to compare different players from different eras who played under entirely different circumstances. Naming any one player THE GREATEST ever necessarily will cause others that disagree to "bristle". Having said that, naming any 1 player the greatest ever will necessarily have its PROS and CONS. I assert ONCE again, that you can make plausible arguments for players such as Laver, Borg, Sampras, and yes, Federer. Those are my personal top 4, but any number of people do disagree with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and each opinion will have pluses and minuses. Pick 1 of those 4, and anyone that has substantial tennis knowledge will be able to give you reasons for why you are wrong and why you are right. It's that simple. It's like asking someone, is Wilt Chamberlain or Michael Jordan the "Greatest" basketball player of all time. Well, which one is it, and why? Is there a "wrong" answer there? No, there is not. The same holds true when comparing/contrasting all time greats in tennis. This is necessarily so. Let's embrace the complexity and not always lurch towards a quick, easy, and oft-repeated answer that is of the "here and now".