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  1. NickC

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    I thought they played fine. Nothing special though. Why isn't Lukaku getting any playing time these days? I thought he'd like to learn from Drogs for as long as possible and I thought that's why Chelsea bought him (i.e as a successor)?

    And what's worse, he wants to leave Chelsea. And that'll leave Torres. Which isn't good. Torres wasn't good today when he came on.
     
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    Lukaku isn't in the Champions League squad I don't think, as for why he isn't playing so much, i'm not really sure Villas-Boas fancies him that much. All the groundwork was done before he came in as manager, if it was up to him I think they would of gone with someone else.

    Yeah, i'm not sure Drogba does want to leave. He's said he wants another 2 year contract, the problem is that the club have a policy to not give older members of the team any more than a 1 year contract. Maybe something can be worked out, if not then they will probably go for Vargas from Chile and that Lazar Markovic from Serbia. Having seen bits of them both they seem to be more like the players Villas-Boas would want, Markov reminds me of Lavezzi. They both look to be amazing technically and that's the way the game is going. I'm not sure if the manager thinks grooming a tall, stocky, battering ram striker is the way to go.
     
  3. PED

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    I wonder if Lukaku isn't playing because of lack of pace. His stature is similar to Drog but he's a bit bulkier and Chelsea seemed to be shifting the ball much quicker last night.

    Great result by the Blues, now AVB needs to enjoy it in silence and continue to let his results do the talking.

    One of the things I enjoyed about Mourhino's departure was a quieter, classier approach to the press by Carlo. I guess that's gone now.

    The most persecuted team in England?...lol He should call Arsene and ask him about that ;)
     
  4. Feña14

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    I think Lukaku is an interesting player, but not really the type Chelsea should be building around, it's just the way the game seems to be going.

    I loved Villas-Boas' outburst yesterday :) He's quite right in what he said, all the media have been speculating about when he would be getting sacked. Why were they doing that? Abramovich's people have said time and again that he won't be sacked, even if we had gone out yesterday. The players back him whenever they speak, and the fans are 110% behind the idea of him being the one to change the team.

    The media have been making up things to put in their papers, i'm glad he gave them two fingers yesterday. He got his tactics on the pitch spot on (something Ancelotti didn't when it mattered in the European games, against Inter and Man Utd for example), and then when he talked to the media he called them out on their crap. It showed he has something about it, the fans love that, especially Chelsea ones who saw Mourinho at his finest.
     
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    They always say they're not going to sack the manager....until they do and given Rom's track record, it wouldn't have been a big surprise if he'd been given the sack. I think AVB should stay and he'll get things sorted out with a cash infusion for new players.

    He always seems to single Neville out as his tormentor but everything Gary said is true and he's won about everything there is to win :)

    Glad to see Chelsea not playing such a high line yesterday and Merieles looked good. Mata would have been an excellent fit at Arsenal but we'll get Wilshire back in Jan so I'm happy.
     
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    Wow, ManU looked like crap today. Really slow. They've not been the same since the hiding that City gave them (thank you Breaker)

    They need to spend some cash.
     
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    Yeah United haven't played well and their only way to attack is through crossing now but with Vidic back they had defended great (5 clean sheets in 6 with the 1 conceded being a penalty is excellent.) Now that he's injured again they look well and truly f***ed if they continue with those one dimensional tactics.

    That's Hernandez, Cleverley, Anderson, and Vidic as starting 11 out for them, have to say that FA Cup tie in January is looking pretty nice - and the potential to knock them out of UEFA cup even better. A little bit of payback for the last 35 or so years isn't too much to wish for is it? :)
     
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    Come on Manchester! We London teams kept our end of the bargain up, what's going on? :)
     
  9. Ross K

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    Terrible "stinking the place out stuff" from Man U in Europe then (and they haven't exactly been amazing in the Prem either.) Should not a bit of that press pressure that has routinely fallen on Chelsea, City, etc, be falling on Fergie? Whatever he's trying to do it's failing pretty miserably ATM. I also think that, a bit like with England, they are too reliant on Rooney and lack some other star performers. With a side of their esteemed reputation, vast resources, and manager's hugely successful record, it's all pretty unacceptable really.
     
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    great game enjoyed it immensely!
     
  11. Feña14

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    It isn't good and they haven't been playing well, but by and large they have been getting it done in the league though and they haven't been conceding many, which is a good base to start from. It will be interesting to see how they cope without Vidic, Smalling and Jones will have to step up you'd of thought.

    As for the Champions League, going out in the group stages happens I suppose, they've been in 3 of the last 4 finals so going out this early is a bit of a shock. When the groups were drawn they had the easiest by a mile, Basel, Galati and a Benfica side who've sold two stand out players in Luiz and Ramires over the last year or so shouldn't of caused many problems at all.

    Man City going out shouldn't be too much of a disappointment I wouldn't of thought. Champions League football takes alot of getting used to and it is very different to the Premier League. The competition is probably the most difficult to win and arguably the most important out there. Battling against Europe's best each season has possibly over taken the World Cup in terms of importance to fans and players. They had a tough group with Napoli and Bayern Munich, but i'm sure they will of learnt alot and will be better next year.
     
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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-ground-row-with-Nicolas-Anelka-and-Alex.html

    I'd of loved to of been a fly on the wall at that meeting :)

    They say players are too powerful these days, it's great to see they were called out for their poor performances. As i've said, it's been going on now for 15 months under 2 different managers. Abramovich's absolute backing for the manager has allowed him to lay into the players and make examples of a couple of them, which is great.

    The performance they put in against Valencia was the first time the team seemed to have any pride in a performance for awhile, hopefully a few more of the older players out the door in January and some young talent in could push us further in the right direction.
     
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    If it was anything like Mourinho's outbursts in the locker rooms the rest of the league should be afraid of the form to come.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg3GY90vOSc&feature=related
     
  14. Ross K

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    We all know Man U should be qualifying from that group with ease.

    Harry Redknapp didn't seem to be too unduly taxed by it's challenges last year with his far more meagre resources and total lack of CL experience :wink: (well, until everybody's favourite drunken girafe-on-ice skates, Peter Crouch blotted his copybook forever VS Real):)... City also should have done better IMO. Definitely.

    El classico
    The big one later - RM V Barca... one thing's for sure - there's going to be fireworks! The only real QSN is, how much are we talking here? Sendings off?... Mourinho assaulting Barca coaching staff again?... pig heads thrown on to the turf (haha, remeber the reception Figo got that year from Barca fans!).. some diving, feigning injury and general mass episodes of conning of the referee and inciting the crowd to boiling point... so fascinating to see if Jose can have a trophy or 2 this season.
     
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    Love this!... Lehmann/City comments... let's discuss!...

     
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    True, Tottenham took to the competition very well and looked pretty comfortable with it. For some reason Man City didn't, maybe it's something to do with Mancini? He did have a poor record with Inter afterall.

    As for Barcelona and Madrid tonight, i'm not sure if I should watch :) It would be nice to go into a possible meeting between Chelsea and one of the two further on in the Champions League with a bit of faith :) Seeing how far ahead they are could be a bit disheartening!
     
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    Stand up comedy is surely his next venture, priceless comments :).
     
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    Ronaldo's all round game these days is dogshit. He's a goal machine can't help feel he was a better all round player at United. Iniesta showed why he's on the best midfielders of all time in 2nd half today.
     
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    Lovely stuff. :)

    Re 'The Classic One,' whilst I am well aware of Barca's predilection for playing the ball out from the back under all circumstances (even when 'being pressurised' on goal kicks) in order to maintain possession, I was surprised by how often they lost the ball in their own third doing this. Of course they only play one way, but in a game of such importance it is a huge risk, as Chelsea were lambasted for a couple of week back.
     
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    I agree, Xavi seems to get all the plaudits in midfield for them, and no doubt he is a special playing and deserving of that. Iniesta for me is that little bit better, he passes just as well as Xavi does, but couple that with his Messi-esque dribbling skills where defenders seem to bounce off him whilst he has the ball glued to his feet, that's the difference for me.
     
  21. Ross K

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    Like this..." As usual Real Madrid tried it all in the first minute. Football, like love, must be enjoyed slowly.":)
     
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    I saw United play twice in the last month and the difference from the start of the season couldn't be more pronounced. Where they were full of energy and invention they have become cynical and lethargic. The midfield that looked so positive -- Anderson and Cleverley in particular - has reverted to the one dimensional game of the last two or three years. I haven't been following closely enough to see how this state of affairs has come about but it is unmistakeable.

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    Spuds/Stoke after Tottenham got to 1-2 is honestly the worst refereeing display I have ever seen. Rivals Chelsea/Barca a few years back.
     
  24. PED

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    Sorry about that result Ross, but we needed it badly :)

    How about RvP's goal yesterday, brilliant!
     
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    A shocker from the ref, defies belief...:evil:


    PED,

    Van is playing player of the season level for sure... I'd also argue Parker and Modric have been right up there to... end of the season awrds-time should be interesting.
     
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    I'd say Parker and Modric have been outstanding, but Bale for me has looked the best. He's the player I enjoy watching most in the Premier League, it's rare to find a British player with the technical ability he has to go with pace and strength that you usually get with players from here.

    Adeb&yor has got quite a bit of praise too but i've not been that impressed with him. Modric, Bale, van der Vaart and Lennon create so many chances for him, and he does put some of them away, but he misses far more than he should imo.

    It's an interesting game tonight, a Chelsea win would make things very interesting. It would peg Man City back at the top to make the title more interesting, whilst also making the fight for the 2 Champions League places between Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea even tighter.

    Having said all that I can't see us beating Man City. They just have too much quality and players who can hurt you, i'd like to see a good performance from us and give it everything, but in the end I think it will come up a little short.
     
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    Totally agree re Bale... 1 in every 2 games he's just unplayably brilliant. If I was the coach of a top Italian or Spanish side, I'd certainly have him down as a number 1 summer target.

    Still can't get over the refereeing at Stoke... I thought Amir Khan was unjustly treated on Saturday night in the boxing, but this plonker was a complete disgrace. :evil:
     
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    I laughed pretty hard when someone said they haven't seen anyone play with such passion for Stoke in years as Chris Foy did yesterday :lol:. Would be happy as it pushes Spurs further back but just know poor officiating like that is going to bite City in the arse as well at some point.

    As for Ade while he has been missing a lot of chances for some reason I think he's been invaluable to Spurs in terms of build up play, he has dribbling skill and hold up play as good as any forward out there which puts him streets ahead of the three strikers of last year. He deserves the praise he gets imo as there aren't many forwards Spuds could have gotten to instantly improve them like that.
     
  29. PED

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    Balotelli is a bad@$$. He's a trouble maker but he sure can play.
     
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    Sturridge, Ramires and Romeu were outstanding!

    I was worried about Silva and Toure in particular in midfield and thought that would be the difference, but to have the young Ramires and Romeu outclass them was a pleasant surprise.
     
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    Yeah was a bit disappointed how Toure and Silva just disappeared from the game after 30 minutes or so, Milner also played worse than he has all year and right after receiving player of the month as well. Barry was very good as always, only midfielder who was consistent throughout the whole game.

    Mata and Sturridge caused too many problems in the end though and Clichy's stupid challenge put the game to bed after arguably being the top left back in the league this year and really makes Arsenal look a more difficult fixture - don't fancy any of the back-up left backs up against Walcott.
     
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    Superb result for Chelsea. Reports of their demise are somewhat premature it would appear. This really is proving to be an open, unpredictable, ever-changing kind of a season.

    Even I raised a big smile at that.:)
     
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    Blues really weathered the storm of the first half, I thought they where going to get played off the park. Well done Lamps.

    Wonder how Nasri likes ridin' the pine? Glad we sold him.

    Next week: Ross vs Fena: 12-22-11, Spurs v Chelsea. Needing another 1-1 draw.

    What does Torres need to do to get in the game. They should send him out on loan to Arsenal.
     
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    Yeah, I thought Ramires and Toure would have a big battle in midfield, with Toure probably coming out on top based on his muscle. I also thought Silva moving all over the place with Romeu being the one to try and stop his little passes getting through would be another battle. To see the young kid play as well as he did was brilliant. Ramires is really coming into his own these days, he can tackle, but the way he runs through the centre of midfield like a winger is something pretty rare. If only he could learn to pass :)

    Sturridge was great again, it was nice to see him do it in a big game aswell. It was a bit frustrating in the second half with Bosingwa bombing forward into positions Sturridge was wanting to take up, and then not drawing the left back wide to give Sturridge space the rest of the time. I thought he played most of the second half far too deep, something he doesn't do with Ivanovic behind him.

    After the Spain game alot of people were saying how Welbeck could possibly go to the Euro's, well he's been well and truly overtaken by Sturridge. Young player of the year maybe? That would be good to see.

    Yup, it's going to be a pretty big game i'd of thought. Tottenham could build a nice little gap between them and us, with a game in hand aswell. It's also Chelsea's trickiest match in the next run of fixtures, we have Wigan, Fulham, Villa, Wolves, Sunderland, Norwich and Swansea, aswell as the Spurs game.

    So yeah, hopefully the tricky match at Spurs would be a nice springboard into those easier games early next year.

    As for Torres, he will probably get a game in January when Drogba is off playing for the Ivory Coast. Villas-Boas doesn't rate him it seems and I think he could be off at the end of the season, here's hoping anyway.
     
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    Given his dire form and utter lack of goals at CFC, and given I'm a Spurs man, let me just say... Torres at Arsenal? What a great idea!:)
     
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    Never been a fan of Cole but this makes me like him a bit....

    The jubilant Chelsea players formed a post-match huddle on the pitch before heading down the tunnel. There, they found Mancini and his backroom staff remonstrating with referee Mark Clattenburg over two controversial penalty decisions.

    As the Chelsea players passed, eyewitnesses claim, England left-back Cole shouted: "F*****g have some of that" and "Thursday night, Channel 5".
     
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    I heard there was a few incidents in the tunnel afterwards, but that's the first i've heard on what was said.

    A bit harsh if true, but it is pretty funny :)
     
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    I think Cole was also the one who started the battle of the buffett by throwing a pizza ;)
     
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    Wonder if Ashley is going to catch those Thursday night games on his mobile.



    :) *taxi
     
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    Shame about Fletcher hopefully he eventually makes a full recovery.
     
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    I almost feel sorry for Mancini for having to deal with both Tevez and Ballotelli. Ballotelli is good but he just can't stay out of trouble. Fergie is off somewhere laughing for having got rid of him.
     
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    So happy Spurs are out of that worthless and energy-diverting Europa Cup and can now fully focus on the Prem.:)
     
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    Thursday nights, channel 5..... ;)


    Seriously though, I know what you mean. It's half @$$ even if you win it but they are "supposed" to care about it. That 4th place spot will be a dog fight and maybe even the 1st.....
     
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    Didn't even know this thread existed!!!

    Even though I was raised in the states, my step-father ( who raised/coached me :smile: ) hails from Ecuador and I grew up playing and following fútbol... football... or yes.. soccer.

    I'll have to catch-up on the thread..... so for the time being...

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    .. but as far as the only league that matters in the world (and is worth following), of course I'm talking about the Premier League..I support Liverpool.

    The Champions League final of 2005 against Milan was what made me a fan. The play of Gerrard in that match and the whole squad, to come back from a 3 point deficit at the half.. was inspirational and legendary.

    This year, the Reds aren't looking too strong. Still early though. The Gilletts really screwed up one of the finest franchises of all time.
     
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    So it's Napoli next, not too sure about that one. I think their 3-4-3 and them being tough to get at when playing at home will be a problem.

    We'll probably have it all to do in the second leg at home, but going for it against a team who counter-attack as well as they do is dangerous.

    I think it's by far the most interesting match up of the round, hopefully we can sneak through.
     
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    So English clubs drawn against Napoli, AC Milan, Porto, Ajax, and Valencia -- somehow all Champions league opposition for English clubs in Europa league.

    Meanwhile after the bent way Lyon got to the last 16 they get APOEL :lol: putting my conspiracy hat firmly on!
     
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    Warm balls, I tell you!

    But yeah, English teams have some interesting ties. Napoli are underrated a bit outside of Italy still, Man City know how tough they are. Sturridge won't be cutting inside as much as he'll be walking straight into their 3 central defenders, Drogba will be on his own against all 3 etc.. Mata will have to be on top form i'd of thought to create the chances.
     
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    I'm really interested to see how that one will go and how Chelsea will deal with their pace on the break as in the end City couldn't over 2 games. It will certainly be a fantastic tie to watch with great atmosphere in both stadiums.

    Milan vs Arsenal could be good as well, like Napoli they can be pacy on the counter with Cassano/Pato/Robinho and have arguably the strongest defence in the competition and will be looking not to get knocked out yet again by a London club. Wilshere coming back around that time could be the difference with Milan's lack of pace in midfield.

    Stoke vs. Valencia will just be a good laugh and finally answer the age old question of how a Spanish club can do on a cold rainy night away in Stoke.
     
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    Stoke's attempt to give Valencia the full 'experience' may be limited by the necessity to expand their pitch to Europa League regulations. The restriction on run up room for long throws, and the extra space the parked bus has to cover may well be their downfall.

    Always amusing to see the Stoke pitch after a Thursday night home Europa game, when there are the European touchlines are visible far outside the PL ones! Anyway, as a Gooner I shouldn't really laugh, seeing as they beat us playing on the deck at the back end of last season!
     
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    Nice result re Chelsea V Wigan from Spurs' perspective today. Now we need to avenge that scandalous refereeing performance from last Sunday against Stoke (that Hoy bloke should instantly be demoted to reffing in the Outer Hebrides, Fitth Division, Sunday League) and get 3 points tomorrow.
     

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