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  1. Feña14

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    I bet you're licking your lips at the thought of Chelsea going to White Hart Lane on Thursday :)

    I had the displeasure of going up to Wigan today, it's the worst i've ever seen Chelsea play. I've seen us get hammered before and put in better performances than that, not good at all. Although Sturridge's goal was excellent, to go at pace, bring it down and then in the same movement fire it in from a tight angle was great.
     
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    LMAO at FIFA Club World Cup. Come on, it is going to be always the Euro champion, with the occasional Brazil/Argentina club thrown in. It is preposterous to pit against each other sides with budgets orders of magnitude apart. The only thing Barça got from that meaningless championship was Villa's broken tibia.
     
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    Let's all laugh at Arsenal!
     
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    Good man Klem.....the reds are doing fine this season, I think we have had more chances on goal this season than anyone, hitting the bar etc but only scored a pityful amount. Still, we are playing some good stuff and after beating Villa today we are back in the hunt and looking forward to a good xmas and new year. Hopefully we wont be looking back regretting the games we should have won against Utd & City & Norwich &........blah blah blah
     
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    Why?:confused:
     
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    Gareth Barry proving once more what a class player he is - City's player of the season so far for me.

    Thought it was a bit underhanded myself for the match announcer to make Nasri man of the match but eh Arse supporters had it coming :)
     
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    Barry has def stepped up this year but I'd have to give the nod to Silva-scary good.

    Can't argue with the result today. Good game all around and City was aggressive in the first half. I wish we had some fullbacks, no width ATM and really miss Santos on the ball.

    Maybe man of the match should have be Zabaleta: he totally locked down Walcott. Amazing how free RvP gets when people have to watch Walcott as well.

    Gervinho reminds me a bit of Fena's comments above about Sturridge: things seem to speed up too much for them in front of goal and they get frazzled.
     
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    Yeah, that's what pleased me the most about Sturridge's goal against Wigan. To be going as quick as he does, but to have the skill to bring it down and know exactly where he could beat the keeper from the angle was class. He really does seem to get better with every game he plays.

    As for Man City and Arsenal, it was another great game. All the games i've seen between the big teams this season have been entertaining, a few years back they were pretty defensive with neither team wanting to lose. Now we have both teams going at each other right from the off :) I think Spurs and Chelsea on Thursday could be another cracker, it was one of the games of the season last year, so hopefully more of the same! Preferably not with Drogba missing an injury time penalty this time :)
     
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    yeah tbh i was hopin for a gunners win to tighten up the title race.
     
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    ^^

    Research does show that in the end, it's the weekly salary that determines performance. The higher the number, the larger the number of wins. Who every spends most, wins most.

    I remember the spring game between City and Utd was the 2 most expensive assembled teams in the history of sport. Is it any surprise really that they are 1 and 2 so far this year ;)

    Red Rom hasn't spent as much as previously and Chelsea have dropped. I'm sure he'll open the pocketbook soon and AVB will head up the table.
     
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    They're talking about Rodwell in January, and he would make up for missing out on Jones in the summer. He always seems to be injured though, and i'm not sure he's the creative player we need.
     
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    Torres, Luiz, Mata, Meireles, Lukaku, and Ramires all in the last year in a half is quite a bit of spending.

    Also Liverpool with Adam, Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Bellamy, Enrique, and Suarez all added still haven't been able to pass Spurs and Arsenal who certainly haven't spent as much or even come close in the table to United or City.

    So it's not all about money.
     
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    I would add that Pool and Chelsea have spent a lot of money but most of it quite poorly: see Carroll and Torres; not really sure who was a worse buy.

    You also forget that Wenger is a god ;) so it's not fair to compare him to mere mortals...lol

    Again, I'm not talking about transfer fees here, but weekly salaries are the key factor.

    I think it's safe to assume that City have the biggest wage bill by far and its not really a surprise that they are top of the table. They've assembled a mighty team and it shows.

    It will be interesting to see how City copes with the loss of YaYa in January. There are quite a few stars in the team but he pulls a big load for City IMO. BTW, I would much rather see City win the title or UTD; I'm tired of that story. Thank goodness RvP is not from Africa and gone for most of January or we'd be sunk.
     
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    Wow, Kenny is just going to love that 8-match ban on Suarez. :twisted: Likely to be reduced on appeal you'd think, but good news for Liverpool's rivals at the top of the Prem.
     
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    ^^Nothing but good news for you and me R, but is seems a bit excessive to me.

    I guess he would have gotten off if he was a former England captain ;-)
     
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    Yes, let's see if they throw the book at JT. Perhaps it's a bit more likely now?
     
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    I hear we've tabled an official bid for Eriksen? Now THAT would be great, he's just what we need. Gotze wouldn't be bad either, maybe Roman will allow for another massive spending spree and drop some 65 million for the pair? I'd crap myself if that happened.
     
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    Interesting! Where did you hear about Eriksen? I think you're bang on about Eriksen and Gotze being the type of players the club should go after. Against Wigan, who played with 5 at the back, we created nothing. Napoli play the same kind of way, except at a much higher level. Obviously even if we did get someone in January, they wouldn't be allowed to play in the Champions League which wouldn't help.

    Even so, those are the kind of players we need as soon as possible.
     
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    My friend who lives across the hall from me at school is half Dutch, and told me he read in a Dutch newspaper (I believe it was De Telegraaf?) that Chelsea have told Ajax they're willing to go as high as 25 million for Eriksen. A bargain, if you ask me - Eriksen is QUALITY. Gotze is even better. Imagine a midfield of Eriksen, Ramieres, and Gotze feeding a front line of Torres, Drogba and Lukaku? Mindblowing.
     
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    Haha, I think you have to get Romeu, Sturridge and Mata in there somewhere! Ideally i'd say Romeu, Ramires, Gotze with Mata, Sturridge and maybe Cavani. That's only two extra players, which is doable. I still think wide players could be needed, Hazard is the best young winger out there for me. So that's what, £110 Million maybe? It's a huge figure, but it can be done I suppose.

    The only deal i've heard is that Bolton have accepted £7 Million Cahill, he's free to try and agree terms before moving in January.
     
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    From what we've been told about it, it does seem very harsh. Nobody on the pitch heard anything. Basically Suarez has been found guilty of being a racist and will miss 8 games based on Evra's word alone. That's dangerous.

    Theoretically a player could accuse someone like van Persie or Silva, the two best players so far this year, and the precedent is there for them to miss a huge part of the season. Not too sure about that one really.
     
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    Joke, god the fa do my head in, scapegoat springs to mind, what happened with terry?
     
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    Nothing yet, nobody on the pitch in that game heard him call Ferdinand anything, and the only coverage the camera's picked up was him saying he didn't use any racist language.

    That doesn't really seem to matter though, based on the Suarez outcome. I'm guessing Terry will get something very similar. Cahill coming in could be vital if that's the case.
     
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    Liverpool are sh1t......
     
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    Chelsea are there for the taking tonight then. Mikel slows things down way too much as the holding midfielder, against a team who have so much pace, it's not going to be pretty.

    The best players should play in the big games, Romeu should be in tonight, with Mikel against Fulham on boxing day if he needed a game.
     
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    Glad to see VdV taken off, he did nothing in the first half. Scoreline looking good ATM for Arsenal ;)
     
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    Unlucky Fena and Chelsea - you deserved the 3 points (though both teams had chances spurned.) Have to say though, I'm more than disappointed in Tottenham's unbalanced, slightly timid - and after the injuries - slow to adapt performance. Unlike Chelsea, who adapted very well after the fleeting, albeit nice early Spurs play culminating in our goal; and then again after Chelsea's injuries; and in the second half, CFC - nicely held together by the likes of Rom, Mata, Mireilles - really showed some nice attacking flair. And as for Sturridge... what a prospect.

    Concerned though by Harry's fundamental inability to deal effectively with the missing Lennon conundrum - Harry's solution seemed to throw our whole display out of whack (Parker, Modric, Bale all obviously were impacted upon here.) And the squad suddenly looks alarmingly thin in the top draw talent stakes... I mean, Pav and Emmanuel playing at the same time?!:evil: ... are there really no other fit (and dynamic) options?... obviously not, which is rather worrying.

    Oh... and as for bloody Assou-Ekotto??!!:eek: ... talk about achille's heel?!... every time he was involved I was starting to resemble Munch's 'The Scream' painting!... there can now be no doubt remaining whatsoever by anyone with eyes that HE ISNT GOOD ENOUGH! He couldn't live with Sturridge, that's for damn sure, quoted for truth, take it to the bank, bla bla bla.

    Not a match that bodes well for THFC's loftier aspirations then (Harry definitely has some work to do because I thought he got it wrong tonight), but credit to the blues... ah, and I haven't seen Drogba playing so well in ages either... "SIGH"...:wink:
     
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    I think you've summed it up well. I was pleased with how Chelsea adapted to the injuries, having Bosingwa at centre back for over half the game, and an ancient Ferreira at right back against Bale could of been a nightmare, but they handled it well.

    I was a little disappointed with Spurs overall, i've said before how I love to watch the likes of Modric and Bale and have alot of respect for them. For whatever reason they didn't seem to be themselves tonight.

    I wouldn't blame Assou-Ekotto too much for how he played against Sturridge :) I struggle to think of any left back who has managed to cope with him this season.

    A draw is a result I would of taken before the game, but I can't help thinking about Ramires missing that free header 6 yards out, him firing his one on one chance straight at the keeper and then Drogba smashing it against the post in the first half. Having said that we could of lost if it weren't for Terry right at the end. He was amazing all game really, I don't really know what Spurs fans thought they were doing by targeting him all game. Terry gets that every single week! Stepping it up a notch like the Spurs fans did tonight is something he thrives on.
     
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    Harry did seem off his game. Bringing Roman on in the 2nd half didn't really work in conjunction with Ade. Spurs overall level went down in the 2nd. Bale seemed to drift into the middle and quit bombing down the left flank??

    Fena, you were right about Obi, once he was taken off, Chelsea performed much better.

    It was similar to the City game with Chelsea. 15 mins in and Spurs had 86% but Chelsea weathered it. I thought a point each was a fair result.

    Spurs are similar to Arsenal in that they've got a solid starting 11 but it gets thin quick on the bench ;)
     
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    Didn't Redknapp go crazy trying to get Pienaar last year? Chelsea had an offer accepted, but Spurs were desperate for him and outbid us. You'd of thought he could of done a job on the wing. What about Kranjcar too? He'd of filled in for van der Vaart i'm sure. Who knows, maybe they're injured.

    Yeah, Mikel playing can only mean one thing, and it's not good! Romeu came on and Chelsea had a great second half. Every game against teams around us should be one for Romeu now.

    I think you're right in noticing a pattern between yesterdays game and the one against Man City. In both games we've conceded early, but then come back and were the better team. It's something we should look to improve, although i'm not sure how you can do it, it's up to the players.
     
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    After the first 20 mins Chelsea were very strong and cohesive and had an attacking danger I didn't quite see before when I watched them this season. As I said last night, I think Romeu, Mata and the really impressive Ramirez, held solid and knitted play and enabled that attacking danger to happen. Okay, we all know Lamps would have scored from some of the chances Chelsea created, but on this evidence, AVB is right to omit him and try to get something slightly different going... imo.

    I'll also add that, despite Kaboul injuring himself just before the game, VdV's injury, the major problem with Lennon missing, and the slight tactical/selection errors on Harry's part (I, too, wonder about the likes of Nico K, Pienarr, Rose, and others not even on the bench), you have to say that any midfield/team that largely neutralizes such great players as Parker, Bale, Modric, Assou-Okkoto (okay, I may be taking the **** with the last one), etc, has done an outstanding job.

    Right, time to continue depleting our rather well stocked fridge of the Xmas delivery of beers.:)
     
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    I think Mata has gone off the boil a bit the last few games. I suppose it's to be expected with it being his first season and the team over relying on him as the only creative player. Ramires has been great yeah, he gets so many chances which is an added bonus as his energy and tackling in midfield is fantastic. It's just a shame he can't finish off the great chances he gets :)

    I was a bit disappointed with Redknapp, he seemed to want to have the big players on the pitch rather than put his faith in some of the fringe players. That would of allowed Tottenham to keep the shape that they have done so well with this season, and worked for most of the first half. As it turned out, his decision to go down that road left Modric playing on the right wing. Surely a Kranjcar replacing VDV would of been the way to go.
     
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    Totally agree with these sentiments (from the Spurs forum I'm a member of)...
     
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    I think that's a better explanation of what I was getting at :)

    I'm certainly not complaining Redknapp got it wrong, we probably wouldn't of got the draw otherwise.
     
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    Okay enough on Spurs. Any Villa fans or anyone out there have a view on McCleish? FWIW, I thought he was a DISASTROUS appointment, and I predict nothing but turgid mediocrity - or worse - for them as long as he's there.
     
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    Nice to see the media finally acknowledging that Villas-Boas will be staying at Chelsea for awhile this morning. It's what the club and fans have been saying since he arrived, yet they were keen to try and get rid.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-Villas-Boas-despite-Chelseas-title-flop.html

    The summer will be interesting. Hutchinson's amazing comeback after he retired could be the answer at right back/centre back. Ideally Hummels would come in as the other centre back, but it looks like being Cahill. Then he needs to find the creative midfielder that Modric would of been, possibly 2 forwards with Anelka, Drogba and Kalou going in the next 6 months. Oh and that age old problem of wingers! Mata should probably be playing more central and Malouda should be gone soon. Hopefully we go for someone like Reus, he's cheap at around £15 Million and he looks like being a big part in Germany's golden generation. Hazard would be nice too, but I think there are too many after him for him to land at Chelsea.
     
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    I agree entirely about McLeish. Pedestrian football is what you can expect. It is difficult to see that Villa has any ambition above being a top 15 club.

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    So you believe it's true and not just a slow day news wise at the Daily Mail? :) I don't believe it's ever true. I think he's a player most clubs would like to have, but they wouldn't even pay half that fee. Chelsea could fill every hole with it instead, which I think the club will look to do.

    Bolton have said they've accepted Chelsea's offer for Cahill, so that will be interesting. With Sam Hutchinson being back after his retirement, we could potentially have an all English defence of Hutchinson, Cahill, Terry and Cole. That would be good to see.
     
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    With Red Rom you can never be sure. It would follow along his usual M.O. of Schevchenko and Torres lol. Plus, Rom loves all things from the Portuguese league: Jose, AVB, Carvalho, and Ferreiro ;) oops, I forgot Boswinga and Merieles.

    Seriously though, what do you think about Cahill? I'm undecided and glad we bought Mertesacker instead. I'm not saying that Cahill is crap but it's hard to tell just how good he is with the rest of that Bolton side.
     
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    I think even Abramovich knows better than to spend nearly £90 Million on Hulk :) I could maybe see him trying to get Cavani for £50 Million, but even that seems far fetched.

    I'm not sure of Cahill really, he's ok and will be useful to fill the quota of British players that are needed. I'd personally prefer spending a bit extra on Hummels, but that won't happen. As for Cahill and Mertesacker, I don't think either are that great!
     
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    Hurrah we won at last and I just seen messi in the cavern dancing to walk alone! Cahill pah....
     
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    Good win for Liverpool, they needed to take advantage of Chelsea having three draws in a row, and Arsenal slipping up against Wolves. It's important they did it without Suarez aswell, especially as Bellamy showed once again he's more than capable of filling in.

    As for Cahill, it might not happen afterall! Apparently he wants ridiculous money lol. Like moving from a team who will be in the Championship next year, where his place in the England squad for the Euro's would be taken from him, and moving to a team playing in the Champions League instead, alongside England's best defender of his generation isn't reward enough.
     
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    Totally agree , just take what's on offer which is great money and go prove yourself at a higher level.
     
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    Congratulations to Man City on their first league title in decades!

    Man Utd just lost to Blackburn at Old Trafford, can you believe it? I knew United had one more bad loss in them but didn't see this one coming.

    Disgusted!!
     

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