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  1. Feña14

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    He was running round hunting everything down, which he has done all season. He never looked liked scoring and didn't do much else besides that, which is the same as always. It was the type of selfless performance we needed on the night, but he can't be relied upon to get goals anymore.
     
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    Well, I said I rated Terry and even Torres's contributions last night, but not having seen a lot of Chelsea this season it was interesting to check out a few others...

    Drogba is frustrating as at times he clearly shows his age now and can look awful, yet as he demonstrated perfectly with his goal and in how he set up the last goal, he still has some real game-changing class... Ivanovic can look like a thuggish lump - but he can also add some drive and steel - I like his energy - and he took his goal very nicely... Ramirez, a player who has impressed me a lot previously, seemed quietish... Mata - he's just a player I really like with enormous quality IMO... and as for 'Side-show Bob' :), he always looks like there's a big accident waiting to happen with him, but, yes, i do like his style generally.

    Any thoughts or secret knowledge on who will be managing the blues next season, Fena?
     
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    Terry has been outstanding all year. Villas-Boas liked the high line, he liked to be open and attack, and Terry was playing alongside Luiz, who has been all over the place all season. That made Chelsea concede goals easier than they used to, but for some reason people have been looking at Terry and saying he hasn't been playing well. Individually he's been as good as ever.

    Luiz was actually really good last night, best defensive game for Chelsea i've seen from him. Ivanovic is just always there, whatever you need from him. He plays right back, centre back, he scores goals.. if every player had his outlook, we'd be in a much better position than we are now.

    Mata was actually pretty poor yesterday, I like him alot, but I don't think he's been as great as people like to make out. I think that has alot to do with him being the only creative player in an older team, who don't have genuine wide players to spread the opposition, and also being stuck out wide alot.

    As for the new manager, who knows! It won't be Guardiola, which is good. The only one it can be is Mourinho, if it's not him then who else is there? Moyes? Capello? Benitez? Maybe they might stick with Di Matteo if he does well, that could be a mistake with this being the time to rebuild the squad, is he really the right manager to do it over the next 3-4 years? I'm not so sure.
     
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    Haha, I know what you mean. If not Jose I can't see any of those you mentioned and the other 'usual suspects' too. Saying that, how about Deschamps?... actually, I know, how about Juande Ramos (whatever happened to him)?!:)
     
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    I agree with this, he's a good player so far but not a great one. I used to covet him for our midfield but not so much now. He's the kind of guy I would pay 10 mil for but not 20 plus.

    He'll likely develop in a really good one in the end.
     
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    APOEL v Real, Marseille v Bayern (winners to play in SF)

    Chelsea v Benfica, Milan v Barca (winners to play in SF)

    Milan must be sick of having to play Barca!
     
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    I'd love to see Bayern take the whole thing. Not that interested in another el classico.....I know how those end.
     
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    Benfica is a decent draw for Chelsea, they'll get through that. Can't see past a Barca vs Madrid final. By far the best 2 sides in Europe this year.
     
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    Yeah, i'd of prefered APOEL or Marseille, but to of avoided Bayern, Milan, Barcelona and Madrid is lucky.

    Bayern Munich were my prediction at the start of the season, at the moment i'd like to see a Bayern v Milan final. They both play some nice stuff and it would be good to see them go through the Spanish teams on their way to the final.
     
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    Drogba's reaction about drawing Benfica tells me all i needed to know about that guy's commitment to the sport, the team, and his respect for fellow workers and also how much that guy was responsible for AVB sacking...

    in fact, despite having a massive amount of natural hatred for Benfica, i seriously hope they steamroll Chelsea...

    Sorry Fenã... you are a good guy and what not, but so much disrespect is just disgracefull.

    follow the link and watch the video!!!

    http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/despo...ions-drogba-benfica-chelsea/1333696-4062.html
     
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    Reminds me of Ribery when the groups were announced, except he was genuinely afraid it seemed (for little reason it turned out!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkbXFMkDM_A

    I thought Drogba's attitude was pretty bad during the Napoli game with all the diving and theatrics which is a shame as he was the best player on the night. He's probably ecstatic that they avoided the 4 who would be big favourites over Chelsea which is understandable but could very well backfire as Benfica are very good and already got rid of United from the competition and another Portuguese team just knocked City out of Europa league..will be a very good tie, that and the Milan/Barca one are the most anticipated surely.
     
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    It's tough to say what went on really, you can't hear what is said or anything like that, also you never know what reactions went on between any of the other teams. Ronaldo and co could of been rolling around the floor laughing to of got APOEL and avoided Barcelona before the final :)

    It's the quarter finals and any team can beat anyone really, with the exception of Real Madrid losing their tie. This draw is just as tough as Napoli, which I thought we would probably lose so we have our work cut out.

    What does the article say exactly? If he is taking Benfica as a given then that's wrong for sure. As a Chelsea fan i'm pretty relaxed as we've got as far as i'd hoped at the start of the season. Also the teams left are all excellent and seeing them play at Stamford Bridge means we're very lucky. I love watching Napoli so to of seen us go up against Hamsik, Cavani and Lavezzi was a priviledge, seeing Gaitan, Aimar, Witsel, Saviola, Cardozo etc.. will be the same, as will Messi, Xavi, Iniesta or Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Pato, Silva and hopefully Cassano if we get that far.
     
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    C'mon Fena. it's very obvious that his reactions and the rest of the team giggles show much disrespect for the team they will be facing. again, remember i'm a FC POrto suporter, so seing Benfica lose is a way of life for me, and even i was disgusted at such reaction...

    the article doesnt say much. it's just the average sports news blog doing the average pot stirring and flaming up the "Portuguese pride" against the "britons". i dont really give much credit to that web site anyways, but Drogba's reaction leaves no room for reasonable doubt!!!!

    anyways, my point is not about Chelsea losing or wining, it's about the atitude it reveals, that i believe was the same that got AVB sacked.... (reportedly)
     
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    Who knows, i'm sure every player will be asked about the draw at some point and they will give the standard answer about it could of been worse, but we won't take them lightly etc.. Which is the same for every team I suppose, they will all be asked about it and be diplomatic.

    The only way we will find out how much respect he has for them will be when he plays against them. If he plays as hard as he did against Napoli then he clearly respects them, if he puts in a half hearted performance then he probably doesn't! Not too long to wait to find out.
     
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    that seems a fair analisys.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6u8yScQtk-0

    Awesome display of sportsmanship right there. Hopefully this will brighten up all of you guys' days. Good to see these things still happen.


    And nobody, not even Drogs, doesn't take Benfica seriously. He could have been laughing at his happiness that his side avoided one of the bigger boys in the draw, such as Barcelona or Real Madrid, or even Bayern. No disrespect to Benfica, they are a great side and have some incredible players (Chelsea should ask Benfica to let them (Chelsea) purposely throw the matches but as a result, get first dibs on Witsel and Gaitan) and will be a tough test, but Real Madrid or Barcelona would have been a much tougher draw, especially with the second leg being in Barcelona/Madrid. That compared with drawing Benfica is something Drogba is happy about. And for damn good reason too.
     
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    This cracked me up this morning - from the Mirror...

    "Drogba's histrionics against Napoli the other night deserved a red card - or at the very least an Equity card... in the last 6 months, Drogba, the man who fell to earth, has plummeted more than the Euro but on Wednesday he stooped to new lows, usually with no-one near...":)

    All in good joking spirit Fena (and I would say that with Gareth Bale in my teams ranks - and if anyone in the Prem deserves an Equity card it's him - LOL!)
     
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    We'll need Drogba at his best for both games, so fingers crossed he knows this and turns up. The old players have alot to play for, most of them are out of contract at the end of the season so they will probably feel like they're playing for their future, or at least a last realistic go at winning a Champions League winners medal.

    I didn't see too many histrionics, just the one where a Napoli player waved an arm and it hit him near the chest/throat, but he decided to hold his face :) It was a foul, but he didn't need to hold his face to get it. He should of had a penalty in normal time where he was wrestled down in the box and the official behind the line didn't see it, so he was probably feeling a bit aggrieved there.

    I was amazed to hear Bale talking openly about him going down easier than he should. Referee's will be onto him now so it was a bit of a strange one.
     
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    That was horrible to see, especially live. ESPN have handled it so well, they took the camera's off the players straight away which was exactly the right thing to do.
     
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    Some awful potentially tragic scenes occurring at the Spurs/Bolton cup game and involving Fabrice Muamba. Game stopped for good now I think. From the players reaction it looks very, very serious indeed. Please God...
     
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    **** just heard, any news.....?
     
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    They were trying to resuscitate him for 10 minutes on the pitch and that carried on during taking him to hospital. It still appears like they haven't been able to manage it, which is just awful.
     
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    The kind of thing we usually discuss here pales into insignificance now. It does seem to have a strong similarity to the fatal incident with Foe, the ex-hammer, some years back.
     
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    Very true, he's only 23 aswell, the same age as me. Really hard to understand how anything like this can happen.
     
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    What exactly happened? I've only just heard, did he just collapse on the pitch or something? Is he still alive?!
     
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    Sudden death syndrome, heart attack waiting to happen, young boy in swimming comp died recently aged about 13 up here. I think his father is doing something about making people more aware.
     
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    From what I've been following on Sky and on 2 different radio shows - yes, that's it. He was on his own. Not near the action. Just collapsed to the ground. Modric I think it was who first noticed. Him and others alerted Howard Webb. Then before you know it both sets of medical teams were out there, and to the obvious real distress of players (Defoe literally looked like he was crying into Bale's chest) and fans, he was given a very lengthy period of CPR right there. He was then stretchered off in an oxygen mask and with both sets of fans chanting his name... let's just hope against hope that this time it won't be the same outcome as with Foe.
     
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    He just collapsed face first, it looked like he was in real pain and they tried to do something with his chest. I guessed at the time it might of been a collapsed lung or something like that, turned out it was something much worse.

    They haven't said anything for an hour, not sure if that's good or not.
     
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    Hoping, believing that Fabrice Muamba will pull through. Most probably a cardiac event.
    I hope he pulls through.
    Foe, Okwaraji, I hope Muamba doesn't become part of that stat.
     
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    Stable in hospital......lets hope he's good for a full recovery.

    I think it took the death of foe for medics to have the necessary gear on the sideline....
     
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    Yeah, unfortunately it reminds me of Puerta of Sevilla a few years ago, where they stabilised him, but the damage from the attacks and the time spent without oxygen were just too much. Fingers crossed it will be different this time, he has a wife and a kid so he has alot to fight for.
     
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    Louis Van Gaal as next possible Chelsea manager? Just paper talk, but would that actually be so bad?
     
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    Thought it was amazing to see not only the standing ovation from both teams at the Man U - Wolves game today, Cahil's message on his vest after he scored, but also the Real Madrid players today earlier all wearing messages on their shirts.
     
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    Van Gaal, Abramovich and the player power? Ouch, i'd love to be a fly on the wall for that :)

    I can't see it working personally.

    I think Mourinho is the only manager who can work and be successful with the squad as it is currently. Although the make up of the squad could change alot over the summer, allowing someone else to take us into the future. Someone like Villas-Boas! :)
     
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    Sturridge and Cahill both had the messages on their shirts, what with them both playing for Bolton recently. I think Sturridge was more selfish than usual, no doubt he was looking to get on the score sheet to show it like Cahill did.

    As for Real Madrid, i'm not really surprised. Say what you like about Mourinho and his antics, but he can be really classy at times. The things he did for people at Chelsea and the fans doesn't get much publicity, but he's a good guy at the core.

    What do you think about them saying if Chelsea win the Champions League, buth finish 5th, one of Arsenal or Tottenham will miss out on next years competition? I can't see us beating Benfica, Barcelona and Madrid to do it, but it would make for some interesting times! :)
     
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    Yes, can't imagine it panning out that way but you never know of course. In which eventuality it would be horrendous and Spurs would be under severe pressure and would be extremely hard pressed to hang in there.
     
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    Glad to see Arshavin is playing well for someone at least. The guardian reckons he'll provide the edge for Zenit to take the title.

    but the loan signing of Andrey Arshavin has plugged that gap. He hasn't completed any of the three games he's started for Zenit since his return from Arsenal, but his fitness is improving and, after managing only 55 minutes in his first game, he went up to 66 in his second and 71 against Dinamo. It was his assist, darting in from the left and rolling a precise pass for the ageless Sergei Semak that brought the third goal and, at that stage, he was, the match report in Sovetsky Sport noted: "The hardest-working and more dangerous player on the field".
     
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    I heard he actually really wants to go back to Arsenal.
     
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    Chelsea/City could be one of the games of the season, a lot in it for both sides with Chelsea trying to stay in touching distance of the Arse and City needing to do the same with United. Meanwhile our form at the moment isn't too good whilst Chelsea are playing the best they have all season.

    Hope the perfect home record holds up but a bit nervous for this one.
     
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    It's a big test for both teams. If Chelsea lose it could derail Di Matteo's good start, whilst it's a test for City to see if they have title winning credentials. I think Torres will start as you have to give him the chance after his excellent display at the weekend, to not do so would be a blow to his confidence at the worst possible time.

    If he does what he did on Sunday then City could be in trouble, if he plays like he has done for the last 2 years, it's hard to not see City winning. I think Torres will be the key.

    I'm also interested to see how Mancini approaches it, Chelsea this year have had so many games where it's like basketball, just going from one end to the other. Will he be drawn into it and it will be another slugfest? Or will he go into his shell and look to nick one or two?

    I think it's the most interesting game of the season by far. A win for City and their title dream is still alive, whilst a loss for Chelsea will probably put us out of the race for 4th. There's alot on the line, should be a good one.
     
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    Yeah Torres has been looking sharp, sharper than our forwards recently even! Even if he doesn't start and Drogba does and is as inspired as he was for Napoli there could be problems.

    I think how the game is approached could very well come down to whether Kompany is fit or not. With no Lescott there's less physical presence in the back and if Kompany is out as well then Savic starts which means a more conservative midfield to protect him. Of course, with Savic in we're pretty much guaranteed to concede at least one which means the game could open up at that point.

    I'd like to see the same team that was scoring 3-4 each week from the beginning of the season with Barry/Yaya as the midfield two and the four of Balo/Silva/Aguero/Milner in front. Unfortunately Milner for some reason hasn't featured as much recently and De Jong will probably get the nod which isn't necessary at home really. Will be a great game still I hope.
     
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    True, i'm actually hearing that Torres will be on the bench. It's a shame as I think his last performance deserved a go at Man City from the start, but as you say, Drogba was amazing in his last game against Napoli so you can't really go wrong with either on recent form.

    I think Kompany will be important too, Napoli have 3 good centre backs but Drogba just destroyed them on his own. If he's in that form against a team missing their first choice pairing, he should do well. I think Mancini should just go for it personally. I said that Man Utd should do that when we played them, the only time they committed to all out attack was when they were 3-0 down, and they got 3 in half an hour. We seem to hypnotise teams into playing kamikaze style and it's made for some amazing games, the 5-3 against Arsenal amongst others.

    If Mancini wants the title then he has to go out and get it, he might think he can outsmart Di Matteo tactically, but we're getting to the stage in the season where ballsy is what's needed. When we beat Man Utd 2-1 on our way to the title 2 years ago we flat out blitzed them in the first half, same as we did the week after when we destroyed Liverpool 2-0 to seal it.

    Cagey and tactical are Mancini's comfort zone, but that's not what it takes to win titles at this stage of the season.
     
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    RE posts ^^^ FWIW (and that's not a lot following my last confident assertion that Spurs would beat Arsenal :oops: ) Mystic Ross predicts nothing else but a City win.
     
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    Can we just take Jose Bosingwa and put him somewhere else?
     
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    I told you, attack us and win, simple!

    Man City are way better than us, why did it take them so long to want to show it?

    Ah well, there goes 4th :) We'll just have to win the Champions League and get in that way ha.
     
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    Yeah starting with De Jong was expected without the normal centre back pairing but with him at home comes very slow starts, was much better when he was off and Tevez made a huge difference especially with the brilliant buildup for the second. Still the penalty was a slice of luck but that's what United seem to get every week so can't complain :).

    15 wins out of 15 games at home, perhaps if it ends up 19/19 the title could be City's, still a long way to go Stoke away is going to be a battle.
     
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    Alot of people are doubting the penalty, but I can't see why.

    You raise your arms in the penalty area and a ball hading goalwards hits, it's a penalty for me. It's like in the last minute of the famous Chelsea v Barcelona semi final where we didn't get the 4 penalties, Eto'o put his hand up and blocked Ballack's shot that was heading towards the top corner. People at the time said it wasn't a penalty, but it's one every day of the week for me.
     
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    Considering that 20 minutes ago or so I was all set to post up a play on norbac's above post: 'Can we just take Harry Redknapp and put him somewhere else?!' - well, maybe that injury time equalizer and ultimately the 1 point will end up being vital for us. That said, we're playing like ghosts of our former selves and my confidence is all but shot. Not exactly looking forward to Saturday against Fena's blues.
     
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    Oh I think it was a penalty 100%, just thought it was a bit lucky as we hadn't had a shot on goal since early in the first half and the shot from Zaba was going into row Z had Essein not stuck his arms out.

    Odd how after the 5-0 against Newcastle it's all gone wrong for Spuds. Wouldn't have expected Arsenal to have made up the 10+ points they were behind just 5 games ago so quickly but it's happened. Luckily for you after Chelsea the fixtures aren't too bad which means holding out for the 4th spot is still likely but much less of of a success than what you looked like doing going into the City game a month ago.
     

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