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  1. Feña14

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    Dempsey is more of a second striker/wide player i've always thought. Modric is more of a deep lying playmaker, someone who can see what's in front of him and get the ball to the dangerous players. If we do end up with Hazard, Hulk and Mata up top, having someone who can get the ball to them is essential.

    I'd like Debuchy or Azpilcueta to fill the Bosingwa/Ferreira gap, Modric or Moutinho to add something different to the heart of midfield and Hulk to play out wide or down the middle if Torres still doesn't get going. It's like getting two players for one with him, he helps us out wide, can be a back up for Torres and he brings the strength that we lost with Drogba going.

    Why would Klopp go to Liverpool? :) He's only 44, so pretty young for a manager. I always thought directors of football were old managers who didn't have it in them anymore, or business men with decent knowledge of how the game works. Surely it's not a job for a young, talented manager! It would be a shame to see him go I think, i'd like to see how far he can take Dortmund.
     
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    Outside Old Trafford?
     
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    It was a joke going round on Twitter. Something to do with how he kept flirting with all 3 clubs and wouldn't make his mind up :)
     
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    Sounds like an imposing lineup.

    Where does Hulk line up, is he a conventional #9?
     
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    He plays on the right, but can also play through the middle.

    I'm sure Torres will be starting as the lone striker, with Hazard, Mata and Hulk being the 3 behind.
     
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    So what is it you don't rate about him? Curious as I haven't seen him play.

    Impossible to tell what's happening with the Liverpool situation and Fenway Group's seemingly rather scattergun approach that apparently has resulted in van Gaal, Klopp, Rafa B, Martinez, Rodgers and others being targeted, although AVB is now apparently totally a non-starter after being the early favourite - and I even read the first snippet yesterday of a Spurs interest in AVB.:shock:
     
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    PED and other gooners,

    What's happening with you reds? Signed anyone? Anyone coming in? RVP latest?


    Fena,

    Seems like CFC could be a heck of a lot different with the likes of Hulk and Hazard, Modders, others. Scary stuff for the rest of us... to think that last season was probably a one-off in terms of how poor Chelsea were (and they only went and won the CL - LOL!) and now you should do better in the league!
     
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    Haha yeah, it doesn't really make much sense. Do you think Modric will leave? He put in a transfer request last year and it didn't happen. Levy seems pretty stubborn so I can't see him selling for any less than an offer they got last year, which they won't be getting again.
     
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    I really hope we have a season almost as poor as that next year!
     
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ansfer-for-highly-regarded-Porto-striker.html

    So Hazard yesterday, and Hulk is 90% done today.

    I wonder if Abramovich will be turning his attention to a central midfielder and right back now. Debuchy in for Bosingwa, Moutinho for Meireles and M'Vila for Essien would be good.

    Then all we have to do is hope Torres can do something at the front of it all.

    Years ago I said Torres is great at what he does, but he can't do a whole lot else. People were lauding him the best striker in the World etc.. a few years ago, people would laugh at me saying Drogba was in a different league to him. Now Drogba is gone and Torres is still here, and i'd trade them in a heartbeat, even with Drogba being at the age he is.
     
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    I'm kind of split on this: I love the Drog but his age (34) should be starting to tell shortly.

    What sets the Drog apart is his desire: he's a winner and so far Torres is just a whiner.(although is winner against Barca makes up for alot)

    Either way exciting all the new signings you've got coming in. I always like seeing high quality in the PL.


    One more thing: with the purchase of Kagawa, it looks like Alex is joining Arsene and shopping in the discount bin. Only City and the Blues can afford top dollar now.
     
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    They are exciting times indeed, i'm just a bit wary that the work so far this summer is nowhere near done. Players still need to leave, whilst ones need to come in to supplement the ones who have already arrived.

    Having a top class front 4 is great, but if we don't get a right back for instance, we are going to be vulnerable against top class teams defensively, Hulk on the right will also need someone to go past him to stretch teams and give him a passing option if 2 players go to stop him.

    Likewise our robust, but not particularly good at passing midfielders will be a huge problem as it will stop the supply to the players who can create and score the goals. They could be isolated and be left with too much to do.

    As for Kagawa in the bargain bin, he's a great player! I think he'll do really well at Man Utd. I've loved watching him at Dortmund so it's a shame to see him leave. He scores and creates alot, i've already got him lined up for my fantasy team if the deal does happen and he's in the Premier League next year.
     
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    Re Liverpool manager merry go round, I wonder if it will end up being Brendan Rodgers, the latest bookie's favourite, and despite him turning down an interview a few weeks ago, reports suggest he may well not be able to resist if offered the job.

    If you're looking for something different and hopefully an advance on what preceded it, with all these teams (Villa, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc) and all these mangers (Lambert, Martinez, Rodgers, etc) it's all undoubtedly a RISK... anyhow, though my lot have been burnt on a few occasions with risks that didn't pan out, I have to say I'm jealous as my no.1 Redknapp replacement, be it in a year when his contract is over or nearer, would be Rodgers.

    Who does Meaghan, others think should be the man at LFC?
     
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    I would have given kenny another year.....

    I would like to think Rogers would take the job, it feels like an old school appointment, from within, ok I know it isn't but it has that boot room feel imo. I have never liked the chopping and changing of managers, it doesn't work we all know that, I also don't like the idea of picking the hottest prospect whether he's the new kid on the block or the older been there done it italian. Saying all that I'd of been happy with morinho and I thought ancelotti did a great job.

    Rogers would be my choice tho......
     
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    Guardiola has asked for a meeting with Abramovich, so they say. Any time he's met a manager, he seems to get him. Not so sure he'll do it again with this one, though.

    I think Rodgers will be good at Liverpool, it just depends if the fans take to him or not. They didn't with Hodgson and it ended badly, I wonder if he's a big enough name for them.
     
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    I dont think its about a big name, Hodgson was just disliked, it was a charismatic thing, silly really, but for me he was a big no-no.
     
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    It's a sorry state of affairs when £18,000,000 is 'bargain bin'. That he's in the last year of his contract that's some fee they're still going to have to stump up for him.

    I think despite their financial situation, United are still capable of signing players in this price band (De Gea and Jones last season) but don't have the clout to get those in the category above (Aguero, Hazard etc).

    I'd like to see someone have a punt on Yoann Gourcuff. He's had a tough couple of years and a change of scenery, perhaps out of France, could do him good.
     
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    Think I just heard there's a Lampard injury scare for England... could Carrick still be drafted in?
     
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    damaged toe.....he took his girdle off and his belly hit the floor. Doctors said it was a good job he wasnt bending over in the shower as his cruciate would have been shot under the weight :)
     
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    Jordan Henderson..
     
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    We're saved!
     
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    Anyone's better than Berry tho amirite go Engerrrrrrland!
     
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    Oh my, just saw this one, NICE!!
     
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    So he got the Premier League Player of the Decade award and everything else he's ever achieved, all whilst being overweight? ;)

    It's always been painfully obvious he's in a different league to Gerrard, but to school him with a beer belly? Wow, that can't be good for the confidence Stevie!
     
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    Meags,

    So, Rodgers to Liverpool then, you lucky barstool! Urgh, I'm gutted as I so wanted him at White Heart Lane. Now just watch him transform Liverpool's style of football, as you'd expect from the bloke who created 'Swansealona'. If I was you, Rich, I'd be have a real sense of anticipation and excitement about the future.
     
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    Just a joke fena come on.......:)
     
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    Happy barstool here :)
     
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    Schooling Gerrard with a beer belly is no joke! ;)
     
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    Not sure Hulk is in the same league as Drogba...

    Does he score in the very big games when it matters?
     
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    Well there's this in Porto's biggest game of the year Benfica away..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxnUkw2lcS0

    He plays on the wings and cuts inside using dribbling skill, pace, and strength - similar physical stature but different role entirely to Drogba.

    Every Porto fan is pretty mad for him but when they played City he wasn't in the match much, Clichy and Lescott were too much for him and he resorted to falling to ground softly a lot. HOWEVER, with the squad Chelsea are looking to have for next season I'm pretty confident he'll tear apart this league, has all the attributes to do well.
     
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    I don't think anyone can replace the big game goals that Drogba gets. Every semi-final, final, League decider, you could put his name on the score sheet before the game even started.

    I don't think Hulk is coming to score clutch goals, he's just going to be part of a very strong front 4 who will hopefully work well together and create chances between them to share the goals around.

    I agree, i've seen him be anonymous in a few games. I watched USA v Brazil yesterday and he was again too. I think you're right saying that playing with the players he will be every single week will be good for him, he seems to want to take his game to the next level so if he works hard, I think he will do well.

    He's a bit of a luxury in some ways, Hazard, Marin and de Bruyne have already come into the squad. Spending big money on another wide player (even though he's a useful alternative to Torres through the middle) could be a bit of a risk when we've been chasing a central midfielder with a bit of guile to make it all tick.
     
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    Robbie Savage in the Mirror brings up the point that Carroll may be riding the pine just as he's coming good. The old skool #9 won't really fit in with Rodger's plans.

    Should be an exciting start to the season. I'd like to see Wenger spend some more cash but I guess he's waiting on RvP. I say sell him, he'll likely be knackered after the Euro's this summer anyway and he's about due to be injured soon.
     
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    No, it's a bit of a revolution at LFC taking place I reckon. Can foresee Carroll getting sold on for big £.

    Re RvP, hard to imagine him not there, not least I think because (unlike a few who've left in recent years) it's known he is actually a real, fully fledged, complete, bona fide gooner, who loves Arsenal and the whole culture of the club.
     
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    I wouldn't pay more than a million for Carroll, even if he does well this summer (is he even going to the Euros? I haven't seen England's final roster). He's slow, doesn't have a good shot, lazy, and simply not good enough. Nobody would pay top dollar for him. He's sh*t.
     
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    One of 6 Liverpool players in the squad and England's number 9 likely to start every game, yet everything you say is true :lol:
     
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    Personally, I think Carroll (in reasonable form) is somewhere between the two extremes. He's not terrible at all, he's just had a terrible opening 3/4 of the season.

    He has a pretty good left foot and ball control, deceptively so. Ofcourse he's nowhere near a £35m player, but it's common knowledge Liverpool paid around 3 times as much as he was worth.

    If he's utilised properly, he's not bad IMO.
     
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    Carroll, to cite Alan Sherarer, will/should score you plenty of goals as long as you fire them into the box at him the whole time. He was of course bought for way too much, but surely he'd still go for a sizable sum. I don't think he's s*** exactly, just not really my cup of tea.
     
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    C'mon Belgium!
     
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    Hmm, a few encouraging signs (goal put away with class by Welbeck; Gerrard still looks like he has it in him; Parker kept buzzing around and breaking up stuff; thought Defoe and Walcott were sharp and lively; Young looks the part internationally; generally the team, certainly defensively, looks a bit more effective than under Cappello).

    And for sure some less encouraging signs too (Johnson looked vulnerable... "Micah, oh Micah, where for art though Micah Richards"!?... ; Hart was bit sloppy I thought; Chamberlain blew it slightly; Milner is starting to be anoymous a little too often; and above all the same big issue/s remain).

    What is it about the p word that successive England teams/managers seem to struggle with so?... possession... keeping possession of the ball and not giving the ball away so cheaply the whole time. Like I said last week, you just can't help but think better sides will score against us.

    BTW, what did ppl make of Hazard? I thought he looked technically pretty tasty and he orchestrated some nice stuff, but, yep, a little underwhelming considering he's being bought for something in the region of 32 million. That said, I think he could have worked wonders in the Spurs midfield... grrrrrr, bloody Chelski - haha.
     
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    He looks very good technically, no doubt. They all did actually, you can see why they're a team expected to do great things in the future, the potential is certainly there.

    I think they just look inexperienced, they created alot but didn't have a finish in them. Hazard playing every week in the Premier League alongside Lampard, Terry, Cole etc.. not to mention going up against tough defenders in training every day should sharpen him up and he will improve quickly. At the moment he plays on talent alone and probably has become complacent playing against weaker opponents in France. Drogba didn't have a great first season at Chelsea, neither did Essien. The step up to the Premier League is a big one and if he has the right attitude (which i'm not sure of at the moment), he will do well.

    You'd have to say it's the best move for him, to be at the club with the likes of de Bruyne, Courtois and Lukaku should make it easier. It's the only club where he would be playing the majority of games, the team will probably be built around him etc.. It might of taken awhile to decide and he went about it in the wrong way, but in the end he's probably come to the best decision for him.
     
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    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opi...ren-Lewis-Tottenham-column-article834045.html

    I found this from January when Chelsea could only draw to Genk and lost to Liverpool, so only a few months ago.

    Basically saying how Modric dodged a bullet by not getting a move to Chelsea. At Spurs he will get Champions League football whilst Chelsea won't, they will bring in quality players this summer, he will get a big pay rise and be challenging the two Manchester clubs for the title for years to come.

    A few months on and Spurs aren't in the Champions League, Redknapp's position is being questioned, Chelsea are champions of Europe, in the competition next year, and look to be possible title contenders again with Hazard, Hulk and whoever else comes in the team next year.

    It's a crazy game when you think about it.
     
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    ^^^ It could get crazier yet.

    I'm referring to the fact there are still a few whispers that Redknapp could end up at CFC next year... fingers crossed eh! :)
     
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    I saw that one was popped up again, yeah. Not really sure why! Abramovich seems fixated on Guardiola, which I still think could happen this summer. He's saying the reason he left is because he didn't find managing Barcelona fun anymore. I suppose the politics, the pressure, managing the club that means so much to you etc.. it gets to you in the end. Maybe he thinks a club he doesn't have an emotional connection to and family life in London, where you can walk down the street or go on the tube without being mobbed would be an easier life.

    But yeah, if he does take a break for a year, what would the point be in giving Spurs £Millions in compensation just to get rid of Redknapp after a year? Makes perfect sense to give it to Di Matteo really.
     
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    Ah well, I live in hope... :)
     
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    Maybe Norwich will take him ;)
     
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    Martin Kelly replaces Cahill in the squad..lolol at least we'll get to see how Liverpool would perform on the international level.
     
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    thats a big blow.....
     
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    Well Liverpool are a good cup side, maybe there's a method to Roy's madness.
     
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    Cahill is a real loss. It's a shame for him really, he showed he's not out of place against the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich in the biggest games going. The chance to further show that this summer would of been great for him.

    It seemed like Hodgson was going to go down the defensive route this summer, seeing it as the only way to go deep in the tournament. No Lampard and no Cahill probably puts an end to that now.

    We can't keep the ball at all so it will just be coming back and we'll be under pressure time and time again, he's shown he can thrive under those conditions.

    With all the injuries I can't see us getting out of the group stages now.

    I'm just hoping for a good tournament, France seem to be playing well, Holland and Germany are always fun to watch. The World Cup was pretty poor imo, hopefully it's a good show for the neutrals!
     

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