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  1. SempreSami

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    Exactly! What everyone picks out as Zidane's stand out performances, that's routine for Andres Iniesta.
     
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    Avb

    With an announcement imminent, all I can say is... well, I don't think there's a Spurs fan who doesn't have reservations about AVB, his tenure at Chelsea means that he will be a gamble. Let's roll the dice and see what happens.
     
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    As an arsenal fan, I could not be more excited about AVB taking over.

    I hope and pray he will continue the tradition begun by Juande Ramos ;)
     
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    Behave yourself - LOL!


    Fena,

    It's believed our major targets are Sigurdsson (offer accepted), Vertonghen (God knows), Oscar (bid lodged today) and Sturridge (bid in the pipeline.) You can be sure AVB will want to bring in a few Portugese you would have thought too (I wouldn't say no to Moutinho.) And hopefully a few more.

    My QSN is about Sturridge. I haven't seen a whole lot of him but what I have seen left me feeling more luke warm as opposed to "isn't he brilliant." What's your considere view on him?
     
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    I haven't followed our transfer speculation that closely this summer, but am obviously aware of the Podolski and Giroud signings.

    It's great to bring in some more goalscoring options, but what concerns me a little is that we now seem to have a surplus of attacking players on the wage bill. If Podolski, Giroud and RVP (on the right?) are to play together, are Walcott (pending new contract), Arshavin (returned from Zenit), Gervinho (bought just a year ago), The Ox (not such a problem at his age, and modest wages), Chamakh, Bendtner, Park (why did we ever buy him?) and Vela just squad players on big bucks? Clearly quite a few of these will need to be moved on, but it's worrying that we're finding it increasingly difficult to sell players that don't make it because we pay them overly generous salaries. Denilson is another who is returning to Arsenal after a season at Sao Paulo, but doesn't have a role to play.

    Either way it looks like player wages are going to be shooting up once again with the new TV deal. Makes things more expensive for us fans inevitably, but should make English clubs even more competitive internationally. From 13/14 United will have largely closed the revenue gap on Real / Barca (who have the individually bargained TV deals), Arsenal and Chelsea will be up with Bayern, and Spurs and Liverpool will surpass the Milan giants.

    http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/in-premier-league-sun-always-shines-on.html
     
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    All good targets! I think Moutinho would only be an option if Modric leaves though, they're around the same kind of price.

    As for Sturridge, i'd of thought you would probably need a better striker if you really want to push on. Villas-Boas had Falcao at Porto finishing everything off, Sturridge? Well, not quite. He is very fast, lightning in fact, the problem is that he doesn't really have the dribbling ability he thinks he has when he tries to go past people. He is one of the worst decision makers i've ever seen, he can't pass, he can't finish well enough for an out and out striker, hence why he gets put out on the wing. He's not quite good enough to play as a winger, and he lacks the key things needed to play as a centre forward. His price is around £20 Million I believe? You could get Llorente for only £10 Mllion more, Dzagoev for even less. I think if Tottenham have big plans, Sturridge as your big signing centre forward wouldn't be the best of moves.
     
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    Thought I was gonna be early with the AVB news!

    I dont think he'll do much worse than ol 'Arry, at least at Spurs the players will be on his side and won't knife him in the back..
     
  8. Ross K

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    Fena,

    Thanks - interesting re your thoughts on Sturridge.

    "Sigh"...

    One thing that is obvious already is that the press are going to be on him like just about no-one else in the PL. I mean, he's only just been confirmed a matter of hours ago, but football writers, ex-players (bloody Hoddle), etc are lining up to pile on the pressure. The heat on AVB is going to be immense.

    Will he able able to handle it?

    Unlike Harry Redknapp (who is a total media ***** and is physically incapable of not winding down his car window and dispatching a few self-serving cheeky chappie quotes to his numerous mates in the media corp), Villas-Boas has hitherto in his Chelsea days been nothing short of a disaster with the press.

    If Spurs actually start badly with him, I fear he could be in for truly torrid time.

    Hmm... you know, I definitely have the feeling he's either going to be a huge, brilliant success, or a dire, dismal failure.
     
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    I think you're right, he will either be a big success or it will all go wrong. The same as it was with Chelsea I suppose, both appointments were a risk, it didn't work at Chelsea, maybe this is the time he gets it right.

    At least you're being linked with all kinds of players though. Our players not involved with International football have been back training for a few days and we still have glaring holes in the squad. Our first pre season game is a few weeks away, which is worrying. Last summer we realised we needed a creative midfielder (Modric) and we didn't get him, a year later and it still doesn't look like we will get one. This summer we have lost the likes of Bosingwa, Malouda, Kalou, Drogba etc.. We aren't even really linked with any right backs, the only players we seem to be are a young kid from Southampton and Pereira, both are left backs.

    Hazard was a great start, but it's a certainty we will be going into pre season a worse team than this time last year, and our League performance showed you how bad we really were. If it were up to me Azpilcueta would already be signed and first contact with clubs over a winger, midfielder and back up to Torres would already of been made so negotiations could start. Tottenham are down the line with alot of their targets, that's encouraging.
     
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    Re RVP announcement, surely Arsenal should sell him? He's obviously unhappy. He obviously feels the trophies lie elsewhere. He also isn't young. Prior to last season his injuries record was appalling. In short, sell him ASAP for as much as someone will pay.

    Re AVB, this (below) cracked me up about his likeness to Frank Spencer and Kenneth Williams! :) Highly amusing and also inciteful observations from Jim White's blog.

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/jim-white/avb-carry-tottenham-145029391.html
     
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    I just hope for once we can get a decent price. There are the usual unsubstantiated rumours that Juve have made an opening bid of EUR 8m.

    How we let Cesc move to Barca for just EUR 29m I don't know. If players choose to assert their own self-interested preferences, then clubs should do likewise: sell to the highest bidder (preferably not in your own league). How could a supposedly financially robust club sell a world class player, proven in the PL, for EUR 10m less than Hazard has just gone to Chelsea, EUR 15m less than Pastore went to PSG, and most embarrassingly EUR 10m less than Carroll went to Liverpool. The same situation as when Henry left for Barca for less money than Darren Bent to Spurs from Charlton.

    I have no problem with the club moving on, and Wenger proved once again last year not to write his methods off. As a fan though, I sincerely hope we don't fall into the usual naive trap of 'doing the right thing' for the departing player, at the expense of the club.

    Either way, looks like the script is perfectly set for the media to rip into the two north London clubs at the start of next season. Arsenal's first six games include Stoke (A), Liverpool (A), City (A) and Chelsea (H), so if the new team needs time to settle it'll be the same hysteria as last year.
     
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    I've thought about these two things lately. I have no problems selling him. He's always been talented but let's face it, this is his first season without being on injured reserve and his production tailed off pretty hard at the end of the season. Luckily the rest of the team was gelling by then.

    I think if he was 30 then Wenger would have no issue cutting him loose, just like with Henry.

    We sold much too cheaply on Cesc and Wenger probably went out of his way to accommodate Cesc's wishes. I hope he doesn't do that again with RvP.
     
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    Beginning to warm up at Spurs with Vertonghen, Friars and Siggurdson all but signed. New assistant coach to AVB in too. More action expected as Modders is probably Madrid-bound, and someone like Mutinho would be a nice swap. We also need attacking options. Oscar of Internacionale is in discussions apparently. And all around AVB/Levy seem to be getting pro-active. A concerted move away from experienced players and getting in younger guys, all who can play that higher pressing AVB game. After Redknapp and his less than stella transfers and modus operandi, I certainly approve.

    Hulk to CFC, Fena? Surely this will happen, no?

    RvP should get sold to the highest bidder, shouldn't he?

    One that really interests me is Axel Witsel. I haven't seen him play, but I've heard reports he's totally brilliant and can do absolutely everything. Man U apparently favs to get him. Can others confirm his quality?

    How we all feeling re our teams/transfers in etc?
     
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    I'm ready to see RvP gone. Don't want a repeat of the previous saga's with Cesc and Nasri. Remember how many summers it took to get rid of Viera?

    Not sure how City is going to unload Ade-he's taking down around 170k a week and not many clubs other than City can swing that.

    Ross, your boys are looking good with Vertongin finally in the fold and Bale with a new multi year deal.
     
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    I'm happy with the transfers, a fair few have left WHU and we are in true spurs style being linked with everybody! Even bought a coupleo of people too, though i can't think who at the moment!
     
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    Witsel is good. Really f*cking good. Amazing dribbler with pace and an eye for the pass.

    Spurs should buy him, Defour and Moutinho, ask VdV to stay onboard for one more roll of the dice to see if things can turn for the better.

    With a lineup like that, they'd dominate.
     
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    Well, for a right back, he isn't particularly skilled at defending. He isn't the greatest passer of the ball either, but he's quite comfortable in possession and has a wicked shot to him. He's got some decent pace though.

    But he's a starter for Spain and has been a lock in their XI for the past 4 or 5 years. In FIFA I have him and Coentrao playing infront of a flat back 3 but behind Khedira and Alonso as a sort of wide holding midfielders who are attack minded. Works pretty well.
     
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    Anzhi and Shanghai can! :twisted:
     
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    Not proactive enough, fella :) Chelsea have just signed Oscar from under Tottenham's noses.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...gn-Oscar-Internacional.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    Spurs bid £18 Million, Chelsea got him for £25 Million.

    As for Hulk, i'm not sure. We had an £18 Million bid for Schurrle rejected yesterday, he's a wide player who is also comfortable as a striker. That was the attraction of Hulk, he could play on the wing or fill in for Torres. The club seem to of given up on Hulk and are looking at other options.

    I think the wingers and attacking players are all in place. If it was up to me i'd try and get Lewandowski (they say £20 Million), Modric or Moutinho (£17 Million apparently) and Azpilicueta (£8 Million) for right back. Get those 3 players and I believe we will have the best team in the League. There are others who are linked who i'm less interested in, Ibrahimovic, Moses, Maicon etc..
     
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    Oh bol*****!:evil: :)
     
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    It's not quite done, there is still hope!

    I think they were saying he was a possible replacement for Modric? He's supposedly a traditional number 10 who roams behind the striker, but in the last few Brazil games he seems to come back deeper into midfield. Whoever he ends up with, it will be interesting to see if he can handle midfield battles in the Premier League.

    I personally think he will end up being a better player than Ganso, to me Ganso has one touch of brilliance a game and the rest he can be awful. Oscar might not do the spectacular as often, but the rest of his game is alot more solid and he can help the team in more ways. With Ganso it's like playing with 10 men sometimes.

    As for Modric I saw a quote saying he will only play for Madrid. He sounds like a bit of an *** about it really, last year he put in a transfer request and threw his toys out the pram because he wanted to go to Chelsea, let's be honest though, if Man Utd or Man City had of had an offer accepted, he'd of gladly packed his bags and gone up north. A year later and he fancies Madrid? He's not as great as he thinks he is and he's not really done himself many favours, the way he's behaving it's no real surprise to see Levy determined not to give in.
     
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    Agree re Modric. He is a very good player though. I sometimes feel people slightly misunderstand his position. He's not going to grab a load of loads. He sits back, probes and passes very sweetly and incisively. That said, he wasn't doing it consistently enough at Spurs last season for someone of his rep.
     
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    Dave,

    Carroll to West Ham? There's a lot of speculation on this. And what with Rodgers preferred system, and what with "Big Sam's" bombing it in long or from the flanks for a big man tactical approach, plus the presence of ex-NUFC team-mate Kevin Nolan, it would make sense, wouldn't it?


    All,

    AVB about to have his first press conference. Hope he gets off to a good start. I think the press will be gunning for him big time, so... fingers crossed.
     
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    Fabio Borini, anyone think he's got something of the Robbie Fowler about him?? Fena did you see him at chelsea?

    Looking on youtube he looks like someone Ive been wanting Liverpool to sign, many a time last year I said if we had a Fowler, an Aldridge, Rush type then we'd be challenging.

    And what about Clint Dempsey, who is he Ha!!!

    As for Carroll, I would expect if he got decent cash then Rogers would sell but we are so short of forwards.

    The more I listen to Rogers the more I like, he just sounds good, hopefully we can take up the first half of last years form and add some goals to it.

    Im excited.......hopefully Lucas is back fully fit, and Adam has lost a pound or two off his arse!
     
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    I remember having that conversation ages ago, about Liverpool needing a true finisher. Borini could be that, absolutely. I was disappointed we couldn't keep hold of him. I think he would be a great signing for Liverpool, much better than Sturridge, who you also seem to want.
     
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    "For Chelsea to have won the FA Cup and the Champions League, it means we were still present in those competitions at that time [of sacking]. You could say part of what they achieved is also down to that squad being put together by myself"

    What the heck? He left Cole, Lampard and Essien out against Napoli, he played Bosingwa at left back over Cole. We were on the way out at 3-1 when he got sacked and Di Matteo inspired the 4-1 come back in the second leg.

    As for him playing a big part in winning the FA Cup, we drew 1-1 with Birmingham at home! Di Matteo's first game was a replay at St Andrews and we dominated the competition from there on (5-1 Spurs in the semi, AVB? ;))

    I'm sure he wanted to make a big bang at his first press conference, just like Mourinho, but really? That's a bit embarrassing.
     
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    Could be a long year for spurs fans. He doesn't seem to have taken on much in the humility department.
     
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    Maybe, he said he'd learnt alot from the mistakes he made and this is his chance to mend his reputation. To come out with that in his first press conference? It's strange.

    I just heard PSG have had a £51 Million offer for Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva accepted :-| crazy.

    Madrid also look like they might pay the £40 Million for Modric, so Moutinho will be going to Spurs by the looks of it. Looks like RvP is the next thing that needs sorting out.
     
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    Jordan Henderson and Andy Caroll = £55M

    Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva = £49M

    Wow :)
     
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    Thought AVB did very well indeed at the press conference actually. That one short remark did stand out a bit, but in context and taking in the complete picture of what he said, well, he did absolutely fine IMHO.

    He certainly came across as thoroughly at home and relaxed, as well as being somewhat commanding and professional. It was noticeable in the coverage I picked up they made a lot of him appearing at ease and being in his element, and in fact the whole occasion was slightly overtaken anyhow - rather than solely focus on AVB, seems the press were more interested and bowled over by the new training complex where the conference took place.

    So, what with this stunning new training facility (and it's meant to absolutely state of the art, mega-impressive) now ready; new signings coming in; a young, new, progressive coach who really has a desire to prove himself, well, there is a certain excitement and momentum building at WHL right now.

    Re Silva and Zlatan I, it's interesting to see PSG entering the dizzying, obscene levels of cash outlay more familiarly associated with Chelsea (and BTW I wish they'd stop hijacking our bloody deals!), and Man City (actually, who have they bought since the season ended?)... such a great and undervalued player (in the UK) too has been Zlatan...
     
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    Hijacking the Oscar deal? Well, Chelsea need that kind of player. We wanted Modric last year, you wouldn't sell at £40 Million (the price that they're struggling to get this time round). Oscar was lined up as a replacement for Modric at Spurs, so Chelsea went ahead and got a younger version of him instead :)

    If Oscar was the one you wanted, surely you would of got him last year, or sold Modric already and have him signed by now? ;) Sometimes it doesn't pay to keep players longer than needed. He has been on Chelsea's radar for awhile actually, it was AVB himself who said he wanted him and Chelsea have been working on it for around a year. I suppose you could say Tottenham coming in when AVB got the job was them hijacking it ;)

    PSG should have a great team next year, Sakho, Alex, Lugano and Silva at the back, Sirigu in goal, Pastore and Motta in midfield, Lavezzi, Ibrahimovic, Menez and Nene up top. They'll do some damage for sure, they could still possibly end up with Modric too, i'm sure he'll have second thoughts about saying he won't play there when he see's the signings they have made this summer.
     
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    So Terry has been found not guilty, like he ever was in the first place.

    The case only went to court after a QPR fan saw the clip on youtube and reported it to the police, Ferdinand himself said he didn't hear Terry call him anything untill he saw the same clip. How did they really expect to find Terry guilty when nobody heard him say it? Not even the QPR players.

    Ferdinand's genius plan for winning the trial was to say he abused Terry about his 'affair', which got to Terry and he snapped. As a Chelsea fan who goes to alot of away games, that insult is tame compared to what he receives every week up and down the Country, where he doesn't snap. People shout sick things about his family, about his kids etc.. He keeps on playing. One person saying he slept with his friends wife and he decides to be racist for the first time in his life? Ha.

    I work in Law and if that case was worthy of going to court, well, the Country is in a real mess.
     
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    Interesting. My only query is the fundamental question of why did Ferdinand go through with it then? Why put himself through it all, unless he held a deep conviction he was indeed racially abused or whatever?
     
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    It was because a QPR fan reported it to the police, so the police thought they would take it to court and play the judge a bit of youtube footage, laughable really. Suarez didn't end up in court because no fan reported it.

    Nice to see the FA treat Terry like he was guilty when there was no real evidence to support it, they stripped him of the captaincy, it ended Capello's time in charge, lead to Terry living with the tag of being a racist etc..

    You can make anything look like you want it to out of context, what's to stop a Chelsea fan reporting Ferdinand this season for being racist to one of our players? A bit of grainy footage on the internet where someone could possibly of said something seems to be all it takes to get the racist tag these days.
     
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    I see. I didn't fully realize this.
     
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    The UK legal system there for you :)

    The firm I work for ends up in court around 6-12 times a year. If the evidence against Terry was enough to merit the case going to court, we'd be in 10 times a week! Just think about all the man hours and money spent on this one alone, no wonder people have so little faith in the police.
     
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    So its ok for terry to say what he did ? It was never a court issue but nevertheless i hope the FA punish him like suarez, when his was one mans word against another, never disputed by suarez only the context in which it was said. Coming from one black man to another, i hear a lot worse said day to day that is ok because they are not white.

    I expect terry to get a slap on the wrist and it will show up the FA in the hypocritical light hey deserve.
     
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    I'm not sure what the FA can do now, in terms of whether he could actually still be punished for racial abuse. If a court has access to all the evidence and can see it's clearly not enough for a guilty verdict (it's impossible to prove the context of some lip-read words with no witnesses) - then the FA would need to somehow find some new evidence I imagine. It wouldn't make sense for them to come to a different conclusion - and if they did, it would be refuted by Terry/Chelsea and a further legal battle would ensue.

    I guess it's possible both Ferdinand and Terry might receive a fine for conduct unbecoming of professional sportsmen, etc. But I don't think it'll be anything major. It's pretty much all put to bed now I reckon.
     
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    The court came to the conclusion it was highly unlikely he called Ferdinand that, he was on film saying he did not use the words he thought he heard Ferdinand say. Fans were shouting things, Ferdinand was shouting abuse etc.. No players on the pitch or camera's show Terry saying anything racist, just denying that he had. Ferdinand admitted in court he didn't feel he was racially abused.

    Ferdinand didn't feel abused, the only person in the stadium and at home who thought he was, was one fan sitting at home who thought he might of lip read something Terry said. That seems to be all you need to end up in court and be branded a racist, something is wrong there. If I asked for a beer in a noisy bar and a black person serving mistakes it for something else, i'd officially be a racist for the rest of my life, my career would be over and i'd lose £2,500 if Terry was found guilty. Even Ashley Cole, someone people see as not the sharpest tool in the box found it ridiculous to be going to court.

    Suarez got charged for actually saying something, his defence was that he comes from a part of the World where it's common and more acceptable. I'm not really sure how they're the same, using the direct insult Suarez did on tape isn't the same thing as Terry, so shouldn't, and won't be treated the same. It appears both players are going to be charged with misconduct, Ferdinand for the abuse towards Terry, and Terry for.. well, i'm not quite sure, swearing probably. I guess that means 20 players a game will be charged next year if that's the precedent that's been set.
     
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    That sentence sentence there signifies why it's 'case closed' IMO, plus also why it should never have escalated as far an actual court case at all.
     
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    Yeah, there was no common sense in it at all. I feel sorry for Ferdinand really, he was put in a very awkward position in having to go to court. Terry lived for almost a year being treated as a racist, the FA had to make a difficult decision, it ended up forcing Capello out, it's costing tax payers up to £1 Million in legal fees, the vile atomosphere between the two clubs, probably the end of Rio Ferdinand's International career etc..

    I can't think of anyone who comes out if it well, just totally unecessary.
     
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    Terry should be locked up anyway as he's a twat, he and Wio can share a cell and discuss their true feelings on chocolate ices.
     
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    Terry has been cleared, so I can't see that one happening :) as for Ferdinand? Well he will no doubt be reported. If one lone fan at home was enough to start the Terry thing going, the clear evidence against Ferdinand using derogatory racist terms is 10 times greater than what they had against Terry. I suppose he'll be in court this time next year then.
     
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    If he was found guilty he could accuse them of being racist though, it's never ending :).
     
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    True! It all started with Suarez, they handled that one poorly.

    What happens now with Ferdinand though? Nobody was ever really convinced either way on what Terry did or didn't say, lip reading experts, players who were close by etc.. Rio actually came out on twitter and endorsed a racist comment towards a fellow professional. It has already been reported to the police, so surely we will have to go through this all over again?

    If we don't and they let it slide, the term "choc ice" is fair game to be used freely on the pitch. How can the FA punish someone for doing it if they let Rio off now? It's an ugly mess.
     
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    Reading reports of the trial it is quite difficult to see how the prosecution hoped to obtain a conviction. But the conduct of the players is appalling. Terry and Ferdinand should face disciplinary charges.
     
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    Yeah, i've been hearing that and it looks like it will happen. Someone said Terry could get between 8 and 12 matches, i'm just wondering what for exactly? All the camera's that caught him saying something were of him denying any racist insults. Whilst Ferdinand admitted to being abusive over Terry's personal life.

    The latter happens in football, it's not very pleasant but I don't think little digs at opposing players in the heat of a match will ever stop. If they wanted to ban Ferdinand for that, but not all the other instances it goes on between players, I think he would be hard done by. Same for Terry getting a ban for being caught denying he said anything racist.

    What do you think will happen with Rio after the tweet he made? It's been reported to the police, it seems we could be going through this whole trial all over again.
     
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    What does Rio Ferdinand have to answer for? A Twitter follower tweeted him to say, "looks like Ashley Cole's going to be their choc ice. Then again he's always been a sell out. Shame on him." Ferdinand responded with, "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic. hahaha!"

    The slur on Ashley Cole was made by a 3rd party, whereas Ferdinand has merely recognised the content, and acknowledged that he identifies with the euphemism. He hasn't made a statement, nor has he necessarily even endorsed the 3rd party's slur.

    The FA are now in the difficult position where they have set precedent (Suarez) seemingly with guilt being determined with a relatively low probability of guilt ('on the balance of probabilities'), as opposed to the criminal magistrate's 'beyond reasonable doubt.' They now have to decide whether to uphold their own precedent, and apply the same benchmarks in relation to Terry (he may well fail to satisfy this test anyway, based upon the questionable evidence). Doubtless they will **** it up.

    I personally don't have a problem with the players spouting off streams of profanities on the pitch, but I do think offensive vulgarities of any kind addressed to the officials should be penalised.
     
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    Well said, hard to argue with any of that. My only problem is the bit in bold, I think Ferdinand is at fault for acknowledging the tweet and then backing it up. To say he hears what he's saying and to laugh at a derogatory statement is just as bad for me personally. If someone says something racist and you verbally agree and laugh at it, I believe that's every bit as bad.
     
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