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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Feña14

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    Just saw MOTD, the analysis they do is usually pretty poor compared to Sky, but they had a nice piece about Lampard highlighting how he looked to get rid of the ball quickly, with a compilation of his first time volley passes from todays game. Might be worth a look on the iPlayer if you're interested.

    God knows where we would be without him and Mata this year.
     
  2. PED

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    I'll definitely check it out. I totally rate Lampard, he's won everything but the wc so he k kwa what's he's doing.


    I'm not betting on Ross' spurs folding this year, they looked good today.
     
  3. norbac

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    Gutsy, gutsy Gunners.

    Sagna had a nice game, hopefully this is a trend.
     
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    I'm with you there, with 12 or so games to go they look to be getting stronger, it's usually the opposite for them. I think it's getting fairly tight overall, with the City loss we are only 4 points behind them for second. At the start of the season it was unthinkable that the top 2 wouldn't be made up of the Manchester clubs. Spurs are just one behind Chelsea, Arsenal seem to be hitting form. If Everton get a big win at Man Utd tomorrow, they will have momentum too.

    I think these next few months are huge for what will happen in the League over the next few years. Chelsea finishing outside the top 4 for the second year in a row, making it hard to attract players, the manager we want etc.. Spurs making it again, with more Champions League football and the money could catapult them into potential title challengers down the road. Everton, it could be what allows them to keep Moyes and Fellaini, which is big. I'm not too sure how it would affect Arsenal, they seem to have a good business model so i'm sure they would be prepared, should they miss out.
     
  5. Ross K

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    Echoing some of the above, yes, it looks to be hotting up a bit. Spurs have done well thus far, but I don't like the gooners breathing down our necks situation. I also don't think Liverpool are to be discarded. Could all be turning tighter and tenser very shortly.
     
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    The Sun gave him 5 out of 10!
     
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    Surely the Lampard situation could only be to do with 'player power.' It seemed that certain previous managers were somewhat undermined from within by the central core of players (i.e Terry, Lampard, Drogba), who naturally would benchmark any new experience against the hugely successful and harmonious Mourinho years.

    From an outsiders perspective all you ever hear is what a model professional Lampard is (and his prolonged success supports this), but perhaps Abramovich just wants to clear the decks in terms of removing all the entrenched influential personalities from the dressing room to both appear to make the job more appealing to a big name manager (i.e does not have to contend with a powerful player lobby from day one), while making it clear to everyone else at the club what will happen to anyone else who presumes to see themselves as more than employees with pre-defined roles.

    I do shudder to think how well Lampard might do were he to end up at United. I think his goal yesterday encapsulates how his experience can rub off well on younger players. He could have blasted it (as 95% of players would have) and the shot would have been faster, but a more 'saveable' height for the keeper, yet instead he sacrificed power and stabbed it along the ground and the keeper couldn't get there, even though it wasn't near the corner.
     
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    Yeah, he had an immense game.

    He played fantastically for France vs Germany mid-week, and that seems to have bumped him out of his recent poor form. For once an international friendly works for the best!

    Looks like Santos' move to Gremio is done!
     
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    Any Liverpool fans in here? Is there nothing more frustrating than watching these guys play!? Last week we played a great game against City. First 45 yesterday we keep the pressure on West Brom. Albion don't even get their first shot on goal until the 70th minute but then score on their next two chances. Stevie misses a penalty. I mean this is so difficult to watch! Reina is spotty, Agger can't mark anyone to save his life. Set pieces are a nightmare. Carra is in the best form out of all the CBs. Enrique has no right foot or vision. Glen Johnson would rather dance around at th edge of the box than put a cross in. At least Hendo & Downing don't look like crap anymore. Hopefully when Sturridge returns next week all will be better. Screw international friendlies.
     
  10. Ross K

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    Not sure quite how Juve managed that scoreline. Thought Celtic were a bit unlucky. Also thought Juve were pretty poor.
     
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    I had it on while on a conference call, the game wasn't as lopsided as the score, Juve, just picked them off sniper style when the bhoys threw caution to the wind in the last 15 minutes.

    I hate to to pull against the PL but I'm hoping Real deals out a smack down tomorrow on the "freckled demon" and his teammates tomorrow.
     
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    Interesting looking back to a post from 2010 about Matri, he's been brilliant this season. I've always been a fan, it's great to see him doing it on a bigger stage.
     
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    That's the Italian style though isn't it, didn't think Juve were out of their comfort zone at all throughout and knew they could set up to counter without much worry. Maybe Celtic surprised them a bit with their play but there were only maybe 1 or 2 clear cut chances they really allowed and they fell to defenders.
     
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    Yeah - it's actually quite impressive to see a team that sets out with a conservative gameplan, and can actually defend properly, while being able to exhibit real technical quality on the break. Don't see it too often nowadays (at least if you mostly watch PL).

    I was impressed by Celtic, though. They clearly just lacked the technical quality in the final third (Juve closed them down quickly only in the final third, and Celtic players couldn't hold it), anyone who could beat a man (when they played Arsenal a few years ago in CL qualifying they had McGeady and Maloney), and the finishing.
     
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    As a juve fan, we did play bad most off the game we couldnt put 5 passes together, lost it too many times without being pressured.

    Celtic did nothing, just 1 header and thats it, everything else they did ended u comfortably in buffon hands. They did play faster but nothing came out of it.

    I did miss first 30mins of first half, I absolutely hate the commentators, they were just AWFUL, completely biased - trying to claim every tug was a peno.
    What Lichtsteiner did happens in every game, honestly they fell down like girls.

    Celtic didnt deserve to lose 3-0, but thats a typical italian performance - Clinical,
    Barzagli was great man of match, only cost us 300,000euros
     
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    PSG was damn solid today. Crispy defence, blocking all the attempts of Valencia from the sides, no space in the middle. nobody of them able to do anything. Pastore was sharp with his passing, Lavezzi and Lucas playing well. Ibrahimovic, of course played badly once more in an important match. Ancelotti made the team retreat to much in the second half for my taste.
    Anyway, best match that I remember they playing
     
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    I remember that exact post. And yeah he's been excellent. He was good today too.

    Damn, to think that was 3 years ago though....Amazing what's happened in football between then and now.

    What's happening to us all? Are we getting old or something?

    For what it's worth, I scored a goal the other day playing keeper in a 6-a-side indoor game on an old roller hockey rink, made a save with my foot which flew over everyone and caught the opposing keeper off his line. I then got to play on the wing in the next round and my with first touch I turned a trick on the defender in such style that he looked an idiot and ended up flat on the floor.
     
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    Yes, Juve deserved the win, I just thought 3-0 was a little harsh. Plus I wasn't overly impressed by the Italians... I don't know, when I think of Juventus, I just recall the legends that have played for them in the past (Del Piero, Baggio, Zidane - such geniuses!) and kind of have high expectations... maybe like how people from other countries view Liverpool perhaps?

    Really looking forward to Man U VS Real. Will be fascinating to see how it plays out. So much hinges on this, and not least for Jose M. And BTW, would be nice if Rooney could step up to the plate and emphatically deliver on the big stage. Doesn't seem to do it consistently enough for me considering his rep and all the hype. That said, I know full well he can be world class... every now and then.
     
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    Surprised Valencia isn't starting for Utd. Pretty brave lineup with RvP, Rooney, Welbeck and Kagawa
     
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    I predict a couple of goalless draws for the two legs of Man U/RM. RM through on penalties.
     
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    Nope! Jones and Ronnie saw to that!


    Anyone else catch Shaktar-Dortmund? Hell of a game. Gotze is amazing, surprised he hasn't been snapped up by one of the really big clubs yet. I think the same can be said for Douglas Costa although I now understand why United didn't sign him all those years back.
     
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    I suppose Man U are slightly in the driving seat now, but it's all still very much to play for. Can RM/Jose still pull it out of the bag I wonder? Thought yesterday that the more unheralded players kind of held sway.
     
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    They can still do it I think, but it was a great result for Man Utd. Mourinho is leaving in the summer, that's for certain. It will be a strange last few months to the season for Madrid if they do go out, the atmosphere is poisonous at the best of times the last 6 months, to a year. I wonder if we will see Mourinho going out in style and annoying everyone in his sight :)

    As for the game itself, I thought the way Ronaldo held things up with his strength and his ability in the air was fantastic. When a player as skilled as he is with the ball at his feet can also bring hold up play to the side, it's pretty rare, just a shame he's one of the most annoying too! If I could have a choice of any player to play for my team, it would be still have to be him.
     
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    I didn't see the game but looking at the United team it is a bit of a mix. Why Kagawa and Carrick, I wonder?

    Is Mourinho definitely coming to England? And where will he go? Chelsea are a bit of a risk - having achieved so much there the chance of anticlimax is huge. Liverpool still doesn't seem to be a well managed club. Arsenal seems unlikely. United?
     
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    Carrick was a solid choice, he did well to stem the tide but the Utd midfield was overwhelmed quite a lot.

    Kagawa wasn't a great choice, IMO.

    I changed my mind, can't pull for Real, I forgot just how much time they spend flopping around on the pitch. Ronnie of course but he's an amateur compared to Sergio Ramos, what a disgrace.

    Real is a joy to watch, they are deadly on the break; glad DeGea had such a solid game.

    Still would have liked to see Cleverly in there, hell, he played against Brazil the week before.

    I knew it was over for Real when Alex brought on ......Anderson!
     
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    Yeah, Kagawa wasn't a good choice to start, better to bring him on late in the game when Real have used their subs and are pushing for a late winner. He's quick and can operate well in the space that Real would give up by attacking. Fergie should have started with Anderson and then subbed him for Kagawa late on to press Madrid's high back line and maybe snatch an away winner.

    But atleast Real have their work cut out for them, they HAVE to win pretty much, Fergie will do well to pull a Jose and put 11 men behind the ball and have Real try and break them down, but that probably won't work against such an attacking force.

    From a tactical prespective, the return leg will be amazing. I don't think Mou has been in this position many times, having to go into the away leg needing to outscore the other team or draw them with atleast 2 goals. However, he's never had quite such a powerful attacking force as Real Madrid. I for one cannot wait to see what happens.

    Does anyone else think the same way?
     
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    Goalless draw which leads to RM winning on penalties. Both goals scored in the first leg will be reviewed and called off for offside.
     
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    Who knows with Mourinho! He's so unpredictable, although usually not with the jobs he takes (Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid were all pretty obvious choices I think.)

    As for where he will go if he does come back, he has been talking alot about Chelsea in the press for the last 6 months, whilst his relationship with Abramovich seems better than ever. I think both parties are 50/50 over it being the right move, so maybe it won't happen. I can't see Arsenal being an option, whilst Liverpool will stick with Rodgers I feel. That just leaves the two Manchester clubs, he would like the Man Utd job, but the people running things have alot of questions about his longevity at clubs in the past, his behaviour and the way his teams play.

    That just leaves Man City, which I think is a possibility. Mancini has had a very poor season and the new Barcelona duo overseeing things there now seem like they are open to changing things in the summer. How would he get on with them wanting a say in things? Also Mourinho and Barcelona have had more than their fair share of run-ins in the past.

    I don't think there is anywhere that would be a perfect fit, but I think it will be City or Chelsea in the end.
     
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    Bale is just so good ATM it's ridiculous.

    And Holtby... mark my words, he's going to be a great, great player for us.

    Spurs are nowhere near the finished article yet, but week by week I'm thinking more and more highly of AVB.

    With a few additions (note to Daniel Levy: this is crucial), there is a lot of potential here IMO.
     
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    Getting 3rd could be huge for Spurs, automatically qualifying for the Champions League is a big draw to potential signings, not to mention it would probably be enough to keep Bale around for at least another season.

    Chelsea have been ugly the last few months, if we don't turn it around then it's hard to imagine Spurs not getting 3rd.
     
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    I don't watch great amount of the Man United games but I don't remember Kagawa ever playing well there.
     
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    First season in a new team disrupted by injuries, move along.

    Also, LOL at Atletico Madrid. Sending the keeper up for a corner in the last minute when 1-0 down against Rubin when there's still a second leg, only to get done on the counter and concede a second away goal, not a clever idea.
     
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    And learning a new language and culture as well. Keep in mind Japanese is a bizzare tongue in terms of syntax and grammar, and going from that to German is insanely hard (I am learning German this semester and it is without a doubt the most confusing tongue I've ever heard) and then going from that to English is incredible.

    And then there's the whole thing about changing cultures and whatnot. He'll come good. It's sad that players are deemed a bust without even being at a club for a single season if they're not commanding a starting role from day 1 and are scoring or assisting in every match. Not everyone can have the same immediate impact Sneijder had at Inter in his first season there.
     
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    Did you think I thought he was coming for £2.5 Billion? :)

    I've never seen him, i'm guessing he'll probably be out on loan next year.
     
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    I had to laugh at this. Mou is quite a character.

    Graham Poll writes:

    When Mourinho first arrived at Chelsea in 2004, one of the first things he did was invite me to the training ground to introduce himself. He knew I was one of the leading referees in the country and, as it turned out, I ended up refereeing six Chelsea games that season. He was very charming and introduced me to the team as ‘the best referee in Europe’.
    [...]
    I was in charge of his very first Premier League match, a 1-0 victory over Manchester United. He asked me afterwards if everything was OK for me and I flippantly replied that the referee’s room needed a lick of paint to say the least!
    Five weeks later I returned. The referee’s room had two new showers, complimentary toiletries and a flat-screen TV.
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    But at the end of his second season, I was also in charge when Chelsea were beaten 2-1 in an FA Cup semi-final against Liverpool at Old Trafford. He was less than charming in the tunnel afterwards. He stood there shaking his head at me and looking disappointed.

    He made one comment: ‘I thought you were my friend’.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
     
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    Let's all laugh at Arsenal!
     
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    Great way to warm up for the Bayern game!

    We really have become pitifully poor. We beat the same team at home last season 7-1, and have now been knocked out of both cups by Bradford (League 2) and Blackburn (Championship) respectively.

    Having watched the game I don't subscribe to the media consensus that 'Blackburn deserved it,' because they fully parked the bus in their area, showed absolutely no ambition and scored on a mis-kick off a goalkeeping blunder on one of the few occasions they were near our box. But I certainly don't begrudge them the win either, seeing as we had no cutting edge once again, and they ended up successfully executing their game plan.

    It's a sad state of affairs when a home tie in a knock-out clash against Bayern in the CL is almost universally viewed by fans as a 'joke game' where we've 'got nothing to lose.'
     
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    Well that might cause Wenger to get in on the joke and try to out-attack Bayern with 10 men in front of the ball.

    It could work, or it might just go to sh*t. We'll never know until it happens.
     
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    Frankie Lampard keeps scoring. Really hope he stays at the club and sees out his career there. Oscar has also impressed me a lot, his goal against Sparta Prague was very nice.
     
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    Lampard has to stay, he and Mata have been the backbone of Chelsea's side for two years. Also LFC have taken the step forward :D. now for the two steps back :'(
     
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    Oscar has been great, we expected it to take a season or two for him, but Hazard is the one who hasn't quite done it.

    Who knows where we would be without Mata, to of played as well as he has all year in a team that is so disjointed is incredible. For me he's been the player of the year by quite a distance, although i'm sure van Persie will win it.
     
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    What?! Dude Hazard has been great at times. Yeah he's not in top form every match but he's still young and has time and when he does decide to show his class he's amazing.

    Lucas Piazon is the one for me who hasn't quite done it...yet, because he's only 19.
     
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    Of the 3 creative players, Oscar and Mata have been better. Most people seem to agree that Hazard hasn't quite lived up to the hype surrounding his transfer, possibly to do with the way he went about it and almost played clubs off against each other at times. He built it up a bit too much I think, so people were expecting something truly special.

    He's not been bad at all, he's just not quite lived up to the billing he built for himself just yet. It's his first season though so there's plenty of time.
     
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    As a Liverpool fan I am happy with their play. Rodgers coming in and implementing his style of play wasn't going to yield immediate results, but their play has improved throughout the year. They are doing a great job of possessing the ball now, building play fluidly from the back, and getting the ball in the final third. Their major weakness has been sustaining this type of energy for 90 minutes, putting shots on target, and marking on set pieces. Far too often they end up controlling possession and SOG but don't make enough of their chances. Still, with Sturridge and Coutinho I believe they are on the rise and should contend for a spot in Europe next season.
     
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    I'm not sure about Coutinho, I saw alot of him at Inter and there seems to be something missing with him. He's a good player, maybe he'll learn at Liverpool. Sturridge is a great signing though, just what Liverpool and he needed I think. I agree it's good to see them going in the right direction, a Champions League spot next year after a summer of clearing out a few players and bringing a few in is a real possibility.
     
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    The poster of the video on youtube is an absolute troll. Nothing to see here.

    Further, if you want a truly despicable action from your countryman, try noting that he attempted to pay off the mother of his son to never see the child again, a mere 5 weeks after birth. The way he got her pregnant (as reported in the tabloids, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt) is kind of nasty too.
     
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    Hoping we can get something tonight. There are clearly some big problems at the club, but I think the disrespect / media feeding frenzy is now overblown.

    I'm not confident of winning this leg, but the odds on us (as the home team) are a complete joke, pretty much regarding us as complete minnows.

    Come on Gunners!
     

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