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  1. Torres

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    Will be interested in seeing how Suarez does in the world wide debut of the Adidas' new knitted boots:

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    ^^^ What? Knitted boots??
     
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    Martin Love – Development eEngineer on the adidas Innovation Team

    They started development in 2012…
    In 2012 we launched the first ever running primeknit shoe, which delivered a fit experience never seen before in our running products. Soon after, a lot of our key football players were also wearing the shoes off the pitch and soon they were asking when the same fit experience would come to football.
    So, at the end of 2012 we started to look into a way of bringing this unique running technology to football.

    They’re not built to be lightweight…

    The main advantage is the sock-like fit experience that you get from the material and the construction; this sock-like prime fit experience is only possible because we don’t have all the additional layers with the knitted upper.
    In a normal shoe construction, for example leather or synthetic, you have the basic material layer, which comes as a roll or in the case of leather, a hide/skin. The upper pieces are then cut and this basic material component requires additional layers in order to fulfil performance targets.
    As an example, underlays and weldings on the inside/outside for reinforcement to create stability or stitching in the forefoot to control stretch.
    Having all these different layers, which are essential for performance, unfortunately also influence the natural fit properties of the material.
    With the knitted upper you see on the adidas Samba primeknit, we’re able to implement the different functional requirements into a single engineered layer.
    What’s really exciting for us, is this is adidas footballs first step into multi-functional single layer uppers where we can control and engineer the performance as we wish.

    They use all the same construction as the primeknit track shoes used at the Olympics in London 2012 – with one key difference…
    Both shoes use the exact same yarns, knitting machines and construction process, there’s no differences here. However, the main difference is the knit structure and the liquid polymer coating formula that we use to protect the yarns and control the stretch.
    This comes from the fact that running is predominately linear sport and football is multi-directional, so these changes were a must.

    The primeknit upper is twice as thick as the existing F50 adiZero…

    Although this shoe weighs 165g, lightweight was not the intention or the goal; this weight was simply achieved because we stripped away the components that were not needed since their function was already incorporated into the knitted upper.
    For example, in a normal lightweight shoe, like our F50, the material is thin to achieve the weight target. However, our Primeknit upper, including polymer coating, is double the thickness of an F50 upper. Therefore, the protective layer is increased in comparison.

    The adidas Samba primeknit was tested to handle the wet…
    We looked for testing in the most critical testing months, from September to December. Those months are known for the toughest conditions, extreme wetness & coldness.
    We were in constant exchange with the players to gather their performance feedback and monitor the progress under sun shine, rain, wind and snow.

    Over three months were spent getting the knit right…

    The main challenge was to bring a running technology to football – it was a real head scratcher in the beginning because the requirements for each are so different; as I said, Running is predominately a linear sport, whereas football is multi-directional.
    Therefore, the first 3 months of the project only involved knit experimentation, lab testing, biomechanical analysis and high speed video footage.

    We tried many different knit structures, combinations of different knit structures and liquid polymer formulas in order to achieve the primeknit fit experience, whilst also fulfilling the required stability and stretch control needed for football.

    We only moved forward with full wear-testing after finding the correct combination of structure and zone placement, which took 3 months to define.

    Luis Suarez isn’t the only one who has been testing them…
    Surprisingly, Luis isn’t the first to wear the adidas Samba primeknit: the initial testing and development of the upper was performed with many local semi-professional testers in Germany, close to adidas HQ. This gave a great platform that allowed us to go to the pro’s with a product that already had strong feedback.
    Luis is on a fire this season and as a result, it was important to introduce him to concept where we already had a lot of confidence in the product.
    Nevertheless, although not involved in the very early stages, he’s given some great feedback and as seen, he’s been wearing the shoe during training.
    In general, when players first see the shoe they’re very curious because the look and texture of the material is so unique. We then tell them it’s knitted and they’re surprised – and they’re even more surprised when they try it on and realise that this is a shoe they can easily play and Luis was no different.

    adidas aren’t done yet…

    Primeknit football is just a starting point for a relentless roadmap of developments. The new knitting technology allows totally new products and silhouettes.
    Players always dream about barefoot fit or sock fit and we will come back with more very soon.
     
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    They look good to me. Much better than these PVC/leather hot pink ones where it looks like players picked their mistresses bag up on the way out to the game.
     
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    Those knitted boots don't look like very durable for the average joe who can't change boots all the time. Their gonna be sold only in very limited quantities so.....
     
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    Now the race tightens up. Who would have thought Villa had it in them. They beat us to start the year and now the Blues.

    Looks like Ramires has been taking stamping lessons from Charley Adam ;)
     
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    Just one of those games, Villa away has always been a fixture we struggle with for some reason.

    You could see it coming after the first 20 minutes though, the little decisions on offsides being wrong, the tackles on last men not being punished, the disallowed goal, sending Willian off for being in the general area of a player who went down. The games where everything goes against you happen, City have had them too. There will probably be more for the top teams over the last 8-10 games.
     
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    That's what makes the PL so fun and the title means so much. Every game is a battle. We had ours against Stoke the other week.

    It will be interesting now with city and arsenal out of the CL and Chelsea still involved if that will take a toll.

    Pulling for a Utd win tomorrow over Pool tomorrow. Moyes appears to be playing a more modern setup the last few games to take advantage of his attacking power. Could be a good one.
     
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    Doubt we'll last too long in the Champions League, the finishing just isn't there unfortunately. We wasted so many good chances in the first half against Galatasary that it could come back to haunt us.

    As bad as it sounds, going out on Tuesday could possibly be the best thing for us. We stand a far greater chance in the League than in Europe.
     
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    I agree, I was happy with a 1-1 draw against the best team in the world last Wed. I just wanted them to avoid a beatdown and the ensuing hangover for the rest of the year.

    Given the way the CL is officiated now, not sure what it really means anymore LOL

    I'll pull for BM now. I preferred their style last year pre Pep but respect what they've done. Funny how the Kaiser is having a pop at the current team in the press this week ;)
     
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    Rooney claims that this season is a one off dip for Utd. Not so sure about that. Wow, they are really bad. Sloppy match, hopefully, NLD will be better.
     
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    Manchester United...

    I see no light at the end of the tunnel.
    I see no means of improvement under Moyes.
    A team doesn't just become bad overnight, does it?
    Moyes will have more time but I see no way he can do better.
    RvP, Mata, Rooney and still this dross???
    I see no light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    Liverpool could really do this you know.

    Chelsea losing to Villa wasn't a huge shock with our history against them, but the manner of the performance was concerning. Don't think Arsenal have what it takes, but Liverpool seem to be the form team entering the stretch.
     
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    Pool look strong but it took 2 pens to produce 2 out of 3 goals, even as poor as Utd were.

    The scheduling evens out a bit here at the end: City and Ars out of the CL which should allow more concentration on the league.

    Didn't Pool have 14 days off or something crazy like that before the Utd game?
     
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    I want whatever they were smoking when they were deciding the length of Moyes' contract. Clubs like Bayern or Madrid wouldn't have given him as long as Utd did + he'd have been booted by now (to parachute someone in to salvage something from the Champions League).
     
  16. Feña14

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    Contract is an issue, but let's face it, is he really the motivational leader Ferguson was? Or the tactical genius of Mourinho? Someone who can play beautiful football like Guardiola?

    He's never going to be any of those things, you could give him 20 years and he would still fall short.

    The length of contract is wrong, but ultimately the man himself is the wrong one.
     
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    Graham Poll is now saying Mourinho intentionally got himself sent off to prove that Foy is biased against Chelsea (the whole 7 red cards in 8 games). So Jose went out of his way to be sent off to prove this? Can't believe some newspapers pay him for his opinions.
     
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    Hmmm, well, I think you overlook the fact that Mourinho has had a lot of luck with his teams; I wouldn't call him a tactical genius - aside from Porto he's managed very overpowered teams. I'd call Fergusson a tactical genius and Cruyff tactical geniuses, for different reasons. Guardiola plays beautiful football with Barcelona and Bayern, I'd be able to play beautiful football with those teams.



    IMO Man Utd should have gotten Klopp. Best manager in the world to be honest.




    However, they need to side with Moyes for the next coming years, then get rid of him if he achieves little success. I can't fault Moyes at all. He has no defence or pace to work with. Mata, Kagawa and Januzaj are the creators, Rooney is the workhorse and RVP is the scorer. Then we have.......................




    Smalling - runs like a three legged donkey
    Ferdinand and Vidic have my respect but are not what they were
    same goes for Evra
    I like Evans, Carrick & Fletcher
    Jones, Buttner, Smalling are not Utd quality
    De Gea has been great this season, again.
    Fellaini, Valencia, Nani are more back ups, not good enough



    They need more pace and better defensive options now. Otherwise the fight for relegation looms large in the coming years. I can imagine De Gea, Mata, RVP and januzaj going to Spain and I can see Rooney going to Bayern - he'd fit in perfectly there.
     
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    Mourinho is a tactical genius imo, only a few weeks ago he thought up the masterplan for the game against Man City away. Very few managers could set a team up like that and have every player know their role down to the last letter. Also the way he beat Chelsea when he was the inter manager, it hurt like hell seeing him doing it with another team, but he totally outclassed Ancelotti that night.

    As for the Man Utd problems, Mata is one of them imo. He's a great player and teams always need those, but as you've pointed out Man Utd have a whole host of problem areas. Buying a player who's best position is a number 10 when you already have Rooney was the wrong move. Sort the defence, get a winger, some quality in the deeper midfield roles, that should of been their priority. You can't polish a turd and all that..
     
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    Forget Falcao or Costa. Cahill is the lethal finisher we need, surely that finish should of counted for two? ;)
     
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    Samuel Eto'o put Chelsea ahead against Galatasaray after four minutes in the Champions League last 16 clash at Stamford Bridge © PA Photos
     
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    Eto'o is certainly the man for the important games. His last goals came against Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs and then again in the Champions League last night. We'll need him on Saturday for sure.
     
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    Hopefully Fernando Torres is the renewed ONE, this time.
     
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    Apparently Inter want him for £20 million, hopefully that's the case!

    Hope Man Utd can turn it round tonight, either way I'm hoping we get the winner of that tie in the quarter finals :)
     
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    I read these and died.

    Great match from Giggs.
     
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    RVP energized Man U's otherwise tumultuos season. Welcome to the Champions League but sorry, CFC will win this.;)
     
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    Man U is revived by RVP once again!
     
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    Nice to see Utd playing well, just in time for the Manchester derby.

    I'll be glad to benefit from any points they can take off City :)
     
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    At this junction, can they really get past City?:-|
     
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    Depends on what you mean by playing well. The way they celebrated beating the weakest team left in the competition shows how far they have fallen IMHO. There was a graphic shown on screen towards the end of the game which showed both sides stats being exactly the same, possession, shots etc.
    Lets not forget Utd beat a side who recently had to sell their top scorer to Fulham, yes Fulham and who's front line was lead by a kid on loan from Arsenal and who has yet to feature in the Gunners first team. Up to the Olympiakos full back conceding a definite peno the Greeks had the best chance of the game. For me the free given for RvP's third goal was extremely soft also. Don't want you Utd fans getting carried away!
     
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    Yes it was a good win from Utd.

    But i fear the worst in the next round, the team is definitely on paper not good enough compared to the other teams and it could be embarrassment waiting to happen.
     
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    They're probably the weakest link left, although Dortmund seem to of fallen quite a bit. Atletico and PSG are wild cards, great teams but they've not done it before. Then there's Barcelona, Bayern, Madrid and Chelsea, on paper you'd say the winner will come from that group, but you never know.
     
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    You're right I think, those are my two strongest.

    Not to sound bitter,(I'm honestly not) but the draw this year was more jacked up then usual. The CL matches from last week were a much better spectacle than this week's.

    I know, I know, that's the reward for winning your group but the groups from last fall, especially ours were lopsided.

    Schalke and Olympiakos are just out of their depth and would have been similar to Marseille had they been in a stronger group.

    Any thoughts on the Clasico, I'm pulling for Carlo's boys, I've always been a fan of his and like seeing Bale do well. Plus, a defeat for Barca means they'll come get Rodgers as their next coach :twisted:
     
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    Yeah, you could put Bayern and Barcelona out in front, with Madrid and Chelsea behind. That probably makes more sense and puts the last 8 into pairs. They don't do seeding, but mine would be, on form and in reverse order, Man Utd, Dortmund, Atletico, PSG, Chelsea, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern.

    Can you imagine if the two most evenly matched teams all met in the quarters? That would be incredible.

    As for Ancelotti, you can't knock his record as a coach in the slightest, it speaks for itself. He frustrated me at times though, he played so slow and you could predict exactly how each possession would play out. Also the way he got outclassed by Mourinho in the Champions League was hard to watch. He's improved since then, he's learnt from his time in England, France and Spain. Always loved him as a man though, they said you could see a cloud of smoke coming from the balcony of his office as he was a heavy smoker :) he'd also talk of his love of food and would come out with some funny stuff.

    He'll always be remembered by Chelsea fans for sure. For a team who have no class in the eyes of many, there is no club who treat people from their past with the love and respect that we do imo.
     
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    Would love for Atleti to come up against Bayern, el Cholo's men seem to be capable of bringing out the worst in their opponents and we'd get to see Lahm, Schweini and co's true colours.
     
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    Good shout. There aren't really going to be any bad ties with the teams left, but there are some potentially huge ones with big stories. For some reason i've got a feeling we'll get Madrid. The whole Mourinho and Ancelotti going back to their former clubs, Ronaldo v Hazard who gets better every game, Bale back in England. Also it's a tie that makes sense when you think both teams have been regulars in the latter stages over the last 10 years, but they've never met. Gonna happen sooner or later.
     
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    Barcelona - Madrid
    PSG - Chelsea
    Real - Dortmund
    United - Bayern

    Anybody would've preferred United.
    I would've chosen Borussia over Madrid since there were 3 hard games which ended in a draw this season.
    Lewandowski won't play on Bernabeu ( he should've forced the yellow card in Russia ) but if Borussia manage to defend well enough and play Auba as striker and score once, I think Lewa will be free to rabe rma again on Westfallen :D.
     
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    ^^Utd are going to get smoked.

    The PSG Chelsea should be excellent to watch.

    The rest of the ties should be good, not a fan of the Real-Barca match; I like seeing teams from different leagues play each other.

    Should be played in a better spirit with Jose gone from Real.
     
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    Obviously Chelsea v PSG interests me the most, but on paper it also looks like the best tie. When seeding the teams yesterday, Chelsea were 4th and PSG 5th in my eyes, both were also 4th and 5th favourites with the bookies, both at 10/1. No doubt it's the tie where both teams are evenly matched.

    Fairly confident with the experience and pedigree we have, the second leg being at home and we have Mourinho. Cavani, Zlatan and Lavezzi aren't going to make it easy though.

    Real Madrid
    Barcelona
    Chelsea
    Bayern

    Those are my predictions. Wasn't that the semi final line up the year before last? Hopefully the same winner out of the 4 teams happens again this time round ;)
     
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    I don't think Jose could be any happier that he is facing Arsenal at home on Wenger's 1000th match in charge, giving him the opportunity to spoil the occasion and undermine Arsene's reputation!

    If you forget ramifications to the title race, it is a HUGE match for the pair of them, and their rivalry. Mourinho will be desperate to further embarrass Wenger and then crow about it after the game; Wenger will be determined to get a favourable result at this milestone, prevent Jose from trolling him after the match, and if he wins, end Mourinho's unbeaten home record at Chelsea, and his streak of having never beaten him!

    I think both managers will be taking this VERY seriously in light of the bragging rights / posturing possible for the victor, let alone the points available.

    Tbh, I'm not confident, as not only is our injury list horrendous (as always), but our performances (let alone results) have been very, very poor in the last four away league games (Southampton, Liverpool, Stoke, Spuds). Couple this with the fact that Wenger doesn't really do tactics, and I'm quite worried. Hopefully he has a trick lined up.

    Anyway, congratz to Arsene on making it to 1000. It has been a hell of a journey from Wright to Vieira to Henry to Ozil, and from a stadium built a century ago to our sparkling new home.
     
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    Congrataulations to Wenger indeed, rivarly aside, it's a beautiful thing. When he took over, i'd just turned 7 and swore his name was "Arsene Banger" :) which made him sound more like a French adult film star than a top level manager, but there you go.

    The messages from ex players should be enough to get the current group really up for it and it wouldn't surprise me if they got some kind of positive result.

    Hopefully Luiz plays alongside Matic, with Ramires being suspended. Eto'o loves the big games so i'm backing him to get one. Should be a good game either way.
     
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    Dortmund have no midfielders after Sahin, Kehl and Jojic so I don't really fancy their chances this time :(
     
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    Would take a draw against Chelsea tomorrow but think we'll lose. Just not enough firepower going forward these days. Finish within 5 points of the winners and win the FA Cup would be a good season.
     
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    RvP broken down, season goes from bad to worse to worser-er.
     
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    We've only conceded one at home in the last 4 months, that was in the closing minutes against Man Utd after being 3-0 up. Everything points to Chelsea, but there's something about Wenger's abysmal record against Mourinho and it being his 1,000th game that makes me think something could happen. This season has been crazy, why not another turn tomorrow eh?
     
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    Yikes! Game over in only 20minutes!
     
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    Its a massacre waiting to happen Utd vs Bayern,

    Poor poor Arsenal...
     
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    If Torres can't get a goal now..
     
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    Well I said something big could happen, with it being Wengers 1000th game. This is better than i'd imagined :lol:

    Today is a good day.
     
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    Welp, I see my team Arsenal got absolutely butt r@ped, lol I reached the point where I wanted to see 8-0 tbh.

    You can imagine this sh1t in school, Mou is the bad boy, bully, gettin all the chicks like the back of his hand while Wenger is the dude getting beaten the *** up by Mou.

    "Specialist in failure" is indeed true.

    LOL @ the referee too, Gibbs should have come back on in the 2nd half and see if the referee saw any difference between Ox and Gibbs :lol:

    I ain't even mad yo'
     

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