The TT Football Club

Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Breaker

    Breaker Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,725
    Yeah it went from ~10 people to about 45 last year, no idea where all these drifters came from :lol: may need to remove a lot of people unless we have more lurkers than we know about.

    Made mistake in benching Sigurdsson for this week forgetting that United are ***** and missed out on all those points. Now everyone's going to get on his bandwagon unfortunately, need a Costa hat trick, 3 Fabregas assists, and a brace from Jovetic to salvage my week.
     
  2. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah, i'm not sure if it's some sort of bot system for joining leagues or something.

    Same for me, i'd benched Vlaar and risked Sanogo. Luckily you can count on a Costa hat-trick and a handful of goals and assits from Fabregas each week. To be honest, it's almost like cheating ;)
     
  3. PED

    PED Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,339
    Chelsea looks scary good, Costa & Cesc settling right in. Matic keeping it all ticking over in the middle.......

    I would so much rather have Cesc instead of Ozil. Cesc is a proven PL player and he's filled out as opposed to his slight build when younger.

    Love this low camera angle at Burnley, it brings to mind the old Highbury camera: right on top of the action and you really get a sense of the power and pace.
     
  4. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Amazing performance! Costa looked great, but as you mentioned, it's all about Fabregas. For years i've been tearing my hair out at the lack of a midfield player who can keep things ticking, keep the ball, free the creative players with well timed passes.

    Ramires, Mikel and a 40 year old Lampard were never going to do that, but now we have someone who can. That's what will take us to the next level, Costa is just a nice bonus.
     
  5. NewOrder

    NewOrder New User

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2014
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Portugal
    Rojo has just confirmed he signed for Man United. I can't wish him good luck, because I hated the way he treated my club. He apologized yesterday, but that's not enough. Next time, I hope he acts like a mature person and a professional athlete.

    I saw a lot of people praising Chelsea, but I wasn't really impressed by what I saw at the second half (except Fàbregas - I hated the guy at Barcelona, always whining, but he's a good player). I assume the first half was pretty good then...
     
  6. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    The first half was incredible, it really put down a marker. Usually i'm pretty tough on Chelsea and look at our faults, but after going 1-0 down it was a great performance.

    Fabregas played like he did when he was at his best at Arsenal, more like a Pirlo, Koke, Xavi type of player, compared to a number 10, false 9 or a wide player like he's been playing the last few years. He just looked totally comfortable and authentic to what he really is, he's a good enough player to play the other roles with some success, but when he's played in the right position like he was last night, he's a totally different animal. He was always on the edge of where the play was, ready for the ball and he had a vision of what was in front of him and what he had to do.

    The second half was a none event, the game was over at half time. Burnley looked to get out of it without a hammering, Chelsea were saving themselves for the next test.
     
  7. BlackSilver

    BlackSilver New User

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2013
    Messages:
    80
    Location:
    São Paulo
    I agree, Chelsea was great, and more importantly, playing good looking football.

    Ajax, as usual, helping save football world from this dark age.

    Arsenal disappointed against, but let wait until the germans are back. Napoli vs Bilbao was great and the return match can be even better.
     
  8. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    The football was very good yeah, interestingly Chelsea fielded the tallest team in the League. To have the pace and skill is one thing, but having the power, strength and steel is what will set us apart this season.

    Yeah i've been enjoying the return of the Champions League aswell, it might only be the qualifying stages, but it's the best competition out there imo. You can keep the World Cup, lifting the Champions League makes you the best team on the planet, in my eyes.
     
  9. PureAlph4

    PureAlph4 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    768
    As I said earlier this summer, Wenger made a mistake by not going after a 360 degree CF who can play with his back to goal. Sanchez is a good player, and is a worthy addition to the squad, but we already have plenty of players who can play as a wing forward (Walcott, Oxlade, Gnabry, Joel Campbell, Podolski).

    The three players I was keen on were Lewandowski, Mandzukic, and Dzeko. Lewandowski was always going to Bayern, so that was never going to happen, but Mandzukic went to Atletico for EUR 22m. Of course he's playing for the current Spanish champions, but I'm pretty sure we could have out-bid them and offered higher wages if we had pursued him. Dzeko looks set for a new contract at City, but were City to have received a decent offer (in light of their FFP and squad number problems) earlier in the summer, with the player being promised the role as number one CF at Arsenal (as opposed to number 3 at City), then it might have been a possibility.

    The fluidity is going to slowly come back to our team over the next month, though it may well be too late for the trip to Goodison this weekend, but I do still feel that the failure to recruit a top quality striker is going to limit the club over the stretch again this season.
     
  10. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Agreed. He seems to of done a good job in identifying Chambers for the centre back role though. He also seems to know he needs a strong midfielder to play next to Ramsey. Bender, Khedira and Schneiderlin are good options, but the same old problem of not being able to get these kind of deals over the line is cropping up again.

    The Chelsea team averaged out at 6'1, 175lbs, Arsenal were 5'9 and 154lbs. Men against boys again this year by the looks of things ;)
     
  11. BlackSilver

    BlackSilver New User

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2013
    Messages:
    80
    Location:
    São Paulo
    The four main european leagues have teams that are better than the top national squads, no doubt. World Cup need to change it's format IMO, otherwise will keep having prevalence of crap matches in the elimination stage.
     
  12. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah, the football at this years World Cup wasn't that great, Germany were the only truly great team. Brazil did such a fantastic job of hosting the tournament and that's what people will remember imo. The problem with the rise of the club sides, and the World Cup being in Russia and Qatar for the next 8 years means the gap will probably get bigger.
     
  13. SempreSami

    SempreSami Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Messages:
    3,627
    Location:
    UK
    The World Cup's going the same way as Formula One, just to the highest bidder in place where the local interest isn't all that. The Olympics is in danger of doing the same.
     
  14. PureAlph4

    PureAlph4 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    768
    Haha! I understand that the Barca model illustrated that you can achieve the very best with players of small stature, but to do that the players have to be fantastic when they don't have the ball (quick, high press, so you get the ball back and the match is played as you dictate), and Wenger has never been able to get the Arsenal team over the past 7-8 years to be good when out of possession.

    As things stand, if no further business is done, with the signing of Mario I'd say Liverpool move clear ahead of Arsenal as prospects this season. He's not the best CF around, but perhaps the best CF currently available, and he'll contribute enough to make a difference. I think Chelsea will get c. 90 points and win the league by 5-7 points. City second, Liverpool third, and Arsenal in a desperate scrap again with Everton for fourth, which could go either way.

    Btw does anyone know what's going on at Monaco? Has the owner given up on trying to out-spend the Qataris at PSG? They let players go this summer (inc. Rodriguez), have apparently been willing for Falcao to move, and haven't made big signings during the window.
     
  15. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    To be honest, i've not really been paying much attention to Monaco. Apparently they want to loan Falcao out because they're struggling to meet some sort of financial target, not sure if it's FFP, but it's an interesting one.

    Roma seem to want to swap Destro for Torres, which surely is some kind of joke. Destro is a great young player on low wages, why would they want to pay an old and hopeless Torres triple the money to miss open goals? :) hopefully it's true, but i'm not holding my breath.

    Yeah peak Arsenal was based on power. Viera, Petit, Silva even Ljungberg and Pires had physicality to go with their high skill levels. For anyone who isn't Barcelona of 5 years ago, you do need a right blend. Go too far one way and you end up being Stoke, too far the other way and you're Arsenal. We seem to of found a happy medium, all whilst balancing the books through sales and getting rid of the older players on high wages, so it's been a very impressive summer so far.
     
  16. Breaker

    Breaker Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,725
    If Arse had a beast like Gareth Barry in the middle rather than simple Jack they'd have won the last 3 titles, what a player.

    And already sat on the perch in fantasy league, thought there'd be a few challengers early on before fading but was mistaken, 36 more weeks on top it is then :)
     
  17. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Mate, keeping it by Monday night should be your main concern! My team is coming for you :)
     
  18. Breaker

    Breaker Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,725
    Never in doubt :)

    Jovetic is brilliant and the entire team is as sharp as the end of last season..can't wait for champions league and to smash the scum by about 5 goals.
     
  19. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Pfft! After yesterdays games, i'd taken my rightful place at the top of the standings :)

    Unfortunately, Pellegrini decided to bench Kolarov for the sole purpose of stopping a Chelsea fan walking the TT Fantasy League title again. So yeah, he's to blame.

    Either way, 2 games into the season and the gap between City/Chelsea and the rest looks huge.
     
  20. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Now Man Utd have signed Di Maria for way over the odds, they could win some silverware this season. Probably only the League Cup if they're lucky, but it's better than nothing. Anyone got their odds?
     
  21. TMCW140

    TMCW140 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,966
    ^^^
    MK v Man U
    'it's just like watching Brazil'
     
  22. bezs

    bezs Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    8,198
    Its a dumb over indulgent buy.

    "But spending heavily on yet another talented attacking midfielder is like buying your 3-year-old daughter a sports car. It's generous, but it's not really what she needs right now."

    1st point of this article is so true.
    http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match/60/post/2001224/three-points-sunderland-vs-manchester-united-by-iain-macintosh

    Losing to 4-0 to MK Dons, oh dear.
     
  23. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    You're spot on. Last year when they were struggling, they spent crazy money on Mata (when they already had Rooney, Kagawa and Januzaj) in an attempt to shock the team into a bit of form. They've just continued to spend in the same fashion.

    Who'd of thought 18 months ago that Man Utd would be on their 3rd manager, no Champions League football and have zero transfer stratergy. They're making Chelsea and our balancing the books, getting transfers done early approach look like a model club!

    Only in football eh? :)
     
  24. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    It's getting really embarrassing now. :( Good thing my LFC fanatic colleague is on leave. I'd never hear the end of it.
     
  25. Breaker

    Breaker Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,725
    imo di maria is actually a very good buy, van gaal's (poor) tactics require at least one player to be able to break at pace for a counter attacking threat and there's no one in their squad who could do so, wherever he plays on the wings or in midfield he adds something that makes them a big threat and forces teams not to be able to attack so freely against them.

    now, that will only paper over a small part of their deficiencies if another quality midfielder and centre back aren't signed but unfortunately it's a good start..

    still very very funny :)
     
  26. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    di maria's signing does not solve anything much. He is going to run very quickly, true, but who is he going to pass to with RVP and Rooney well off his pace? This is why the team should have been built around Berbatov. Slow possession with goals from deflected shots.
     
  27. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah, to me, Di Maria is more of a final piece of the jigsaw kind of player. The Mata signing was the same. £100 Million on that pair when they've got Blackett, Jones, Smalling and Jones at the back is worrying.

    Man Utd seem to be in too much of a rush to get back to the top, instead of looking at fixing the basic issues that will be the foundation to success for the next 10 years.
     
  28. PureAlph4

    PureAlph4 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    768
    Obviously their CB situation is a mess, but if United actually go all in and sign Vidal this window, then their first XI will look pretty strong if LVG switches to four at the back:

    De Gea
    Rafael Rojo Jones Shaw
    Vidal Herrera
    Mata Rooney Di Maria
    RVP

    I think Di Maria paying off this season depends on them signing Vidal though.
     
  29. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Doesn't look too bad at all, as you said though, the defence
    is where they are short. Shaw isn't that good defensively, he could get there in time, but he's a long way off at the moment. Rojo never really impressed me, same goes for Jones.

    Oh and congratulations Arsenal. That was a tricky little tie they had.
     
  30. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    LVG doesn't seem to rate Rafael very highly, for whatever reason. In my opinion he's a liability in terms of positional awareness.
     
  31. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    When I've seen him he's either been great, or downright awful! Like most Brazilian players I suppose, there's no middle ground :)

    When Ashley Young gets the nod at left wing back though, it's not looking good for you.
     
  32. norbac

    norbac Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    8,490
    Game, set, and match.
     
  33. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    After watching that incredible rollercoaster of a game, we now have two weeks of worthless internationals. Do people still wonder why people couldn't give a crap about international football?

    Ramires was awful again, but scored a fantastic goal, Mikel leading breaks and back heeling assits, Costa, unplayable half the time, the other half was made up of him moonlighting as a left back and looking to fight anyone who wasn't in yellow. All that after City lose at home to Stoke and Newscastle and Crystal Palace do their own thing. Good day all round :)
     
  34. Cesc Fabregas

    Cesc Fabregas Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2009
    Messages:
    8,318
    Love Diego Costa.
     
  35. Wynter

    Wynter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2013
    Messages:
    4,125
    Location:
    Australia
    Aarons was incredible in that 15 minutes he played, very exciting prospect
     
  36. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah, his character fits what you imagine a Chelsea player to be. Powerful, controversial, some love him, others hate him etc..

    Will be interesting to see what happens when he learns the language :)
     
  37. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    I hate meaningless internationals too!
     
  38. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah the season is just starting to heat up and we're off for two weeks! Then after 2 Premier League games it's more internationals (San Marino and Estonia or something), then in November there's more!
     
  39. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    Falcao signs for Manchester United..
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2014
  40. Vcore89

    Vcore89 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,902
    Location:
    The synapse
    Recent signings/transfers makes my head spin so hard I feel like puking (with some non-sensical astronomical numbers involved).:|
     
  41. bezs

    bezs Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    8,198
    Falcao to United like what?!
     
  42. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    It's crazy. Forget about the transfer fees for a minute and look what's happening to the wages. Insane!
     
  43. PureAlph4

    PureAlph4 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    768
    You didn't for a second think that the extra £2bn a season in TV money, as well as huge increases in the value of commercial deals, would end up in reasonably priced tickets for the fans, did you? Of course not - every penny ends up in the pockets of the players, agents, managers, and owners, while they push through ticket price rises to price out the fans who have supported the clubs from generation to generation, from son to father to grandfather to great-grandfather.

    That's PL-era football for you!
     
  44. Russeljones

    Russeljones G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    12,390
    Nope, just got out of coma, this is all new to me. Colour TVs too. Madness!
     
  45. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    [​IMG]
     
  46. hawk eye

    hawk eye Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    2,090
    Another tactical masterplan by LVG to keep that right wing wide open. You're gonna see opponents will not know what to do with all that space. And to be sure, he will have Falcao chase down the opponent's left winger. Such a genius..
     
  47. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Haha! The defensive buys have confused me, Blind, Rojo and Shaw are all left wing backs in my eyes. LVG clearly doesn't rate Rafael, whilst Smalling and Jones aren't good enough in the middle. Not sure why they've spent close to £70 Million on that one position.
     
  48. hawk eye

    hawk eye Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    2,090
    Yes it really seems odd. Then again, tonight in a dutch football talkshow I heard that Blind was bought as a midfielder, not as a wing back. I'm wondering if Blind as a midfielder can handle the pace of the PL game. But there were always people doubting him, so that's nothing new. He's had a good WC which most pundits didn't expect. We'll just have to wait and to see what he's capable of at MU.
     
  49. SempreSami

    SempreSami Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Messages:
    3,627
    Location:
    UK
    Transfermarkt.de has Blind as a defensive midfielder and Rojo as a centre half.
     
  50. Feña14

    Feña14 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,377
    Location:
    England
    Yeah i've heard he can play there, he impressed in the World Cup with his runs down the left for me though. Wasn't he the one who crossed it for RvP's header against Spain? Having him sit in midfield seems like a waste.
     

Share This Page