Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Haha! Nice! Yeah, I stopped watching after the first half. Looked like both had set up for a draw.
I'm new to football, just started watching because of the recent World Cup...because that seems to be the only time it's shown in it's proper form in the United States. Sure we have MLS, but it would be like watching minor league baseball and having the media say "look, it's the best we have". In my search for a Premier League team to support, I chose West Ham because my boss is a huge fan. And after their last few games, it looks like I've picked the right time to be a fan! I've asked around to folks who have followed football for their entire lives and they've all said that West Ham seems to be a mid table team, and now they're number 4 and just beat Man City!
Anyway, glad I can see some Premier League football in the states on regular tv without having to spend extra money to buy a package of channels!
Nice choice! So many people from America choose predictable Man Utd, Arsenal, Barcelona etc.. You should have some fun with West Ham.
Haha! Thanks! I like teams who are good enough not to be total rubbish, but can be bad enough to break your heart!
Just remember: you've made your bed with the Hammers, and for better or for worse, you stick with them.
Don't be this guy!
:lol: maybe he's a pyschic and predicted the draw before it happened!
He probably knew the referee was going to let Man Utd get away with having Chelsea players in headlocks at corners and send ivanovic off for, well, i'm still entirely sure to be honest.
NEVER!!!! I'm ordering one of the home jerseys and maybe a hat when I get paid next.
Fena, our defenders learned from the best, no?
I think that's all a bit cynical, Fena. Tbh, I think he's happy just to be there, and isn't too bothered about what happened on the pitch. He's got the snaps for Instagram, so anything else is a bonus.
Ryan Shawcross? He was at Man Utd as a youngster, maybe it's the first thing they teach there ;-)
I had to laugh when the headlocks in the penalty area were happening, followed by Fellaini being told to pay no attention to the ball and just follow Fabregas about. All the while there was an advert on the boards "give us money and we'll teach you how to play the United way" :lol:
Newcastle have their own Aaron Ramsey now. Jack Colback.
At least there is some spirit now. :evil:
The real laugh is all the sanctimonious drivel said about the defending in that game. As if nobody ever held anyone in the penalty area before. Give me a break!
Come on now, having someone in a headlock is a little more than holding. Glad Utd got what they deserved from the derby, nothing! How the ref failed to award City any of the three blatant penos is beyond me. BTW what do you think of LVG's sideline style,sitting down with his clipboard on his lap and a blank look on his face. Give me a Martin O' Neill or Mourinho type anyday, someone with a bit of passion.
Are you 8 years old? Your comment is exactly the type I am referring to. You have certainly never seen Tony Adams, Martin Keown etc.
Agree with you to a point, usually it's six of one and half a dozen of the other in battles, the referee always blows for a foul againt the player who is attacking so he doesn't have to award penalties. Just let them play imo.
The two headlocks against ivanovic and Terry was going beyond that though
I agree with you!
I wonder if the team would do better if he came to the sidelines to encourage and harangue.
There's a reason why Fergie did it.
Even if it's not his style, get Giggsie to do it.
Why do you have to revert to insults? I'm certainly old enough to remember Adams and Keown but don't ever remember them holding opposing players in a headlock. I don't recall Bruce or Pallister doing so either. If you feel you need to insult someone to get your point across just let it go.
Subotic ruined things for Dortmund, Klopp likely made a mistake put him in. Seems no Champions League for Dortmund next year
U wot m8
Is that LvG???
City is making a monumental effort to be worst than Juve at european level, quite an achievement.
Err, City are a small club, Juve are European champions.
Indeed, showing his disgust at a Milan player not getting penalised for challenging with a high foot in the 1995 Champions League final.
Not sure what a European Cup won 18 years ago says about Juve's present CL form. May as well bring up City's Cup Winners Cup win from 1970, not that it says anything for their joke performance last night.
What to say about PSG, who only won a Cup winner's cup two decades ago.
Like City, they are regarded as being a big club. But that's all about having big money players and domestic league success. BTW with Zlatan, they're never gonna have CL success. He failed in that respect at Ajax, Juventus, Inter, Barcelona and AC Milan..
Pretty much. I hope it was obvious that the size of the trophy room is not the subject here, but the current form of said clubs.
Juve are hit-and-miss domestically as well as in Europe, this term. So why use them as a comparison? City never did s*** on the biggest stage of all, remember that.
True, just shows that money can only take you so far. A club needs an identity to be great imo, in my lifetime there has been Milan at various stages, Ajax with their philosophy, Barcelona, Man Utd under Ferguson.. and a few others.
Watching Man City, i'm still not really sure what they're about or are trying to do. The other thing with City is a few of their players are getting older, they're going to have to start looking to plan for the future. Will that be possible with the financial regulations hanging over them, their irrelevance on the European stage etc..
The Champions League has arguably become the biggest competition in football, maybe even greater than the World Cup. When you have to beat teams like Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern and Chelsea to win it all, it's a huge achievement. Will top players be happy to come to a team who have so far shown they aren't up to it? The best players have options afterall, the promise of building something great and taking Europe by storm isn't there this time round, neither are the astronomical wages/fees.
The "dreaded" Fifa WC attribution report arrives. Of course, the Fifa sees nothing wrong with the Fifa. But then, Garcia, the main man behind the report claims it is incomplete. But there's more! Now the FBI leads its own investigation and will try to put their hands on the said report. Reminder that the USA wanted the WC 2022 at some point.
Even if as of today the club's finances are comfortably in the green, I still chuckled reading this considering how much money R. Abramovitch invested in the club. Sure he won his bet. A more than ten years long bet, but he won it. Well won in the sense that the club is self-sufficient, not that he made any money out of it.
Haven't really read the report in detail, the bits i've heard have basically been having a go at the English bid! Where the World Cup is held doesn't really bother me that much, just as long as it's in a Country with a history when it comes to the game. The weather and poltics aside with Qatar, it's got no football tradition! To me it's like holding the baseball World Series in New Zealand, why!?
As for Chelsea and money, yeah everything is great now. The point is that Chelsea are one of the best 4 teams in Europe. The best players are going to want to join those teams as they have the best chance of winning the Champions League. With City needing to make a start on building for the future with key players getting older, their failure in Europe is going to make it difficult.
Wow, I need into English. Gonna correct this. "Claims it is incomplete" of course.
And on the top of that, by the word of the President of the Belgian federation, his federation and the Dutch one, who tried to organize together the 2018 WC (attributed to Russia) asks for "total transparency" about the report and want to see it.
OTOH there's the Africa Cup of Nations drama, where Morocco, who asked several times for a delay because of the Ebola virus and possible mass movement towards their country from other Africa countries got the organization removed from them and their team eliminated "by default". And actually another African country got the rights: Equatorial Guinea, which did organize the competition in 2010. Considering the Ebola virus mainly strikes in Western Africa, it's an interesting choice.
EDIT: That said, Morocco still organizes Clubs World Cup. Of course it cannot be compared to the enthusiasm behind ACN but it's still an international event.
Liverpool sucking lemons bigtime!
Whilst Fabregas says it's the most fun he's ever had playing football and Foster says we're the best team he's ever faced.
Funny how things change so quickly, it was only in May that Liverpool were finishing ahead of Chelsea.
Wonder where Reus will end up, all the noises were saying he wanted to move to Chelsea, whilst Mourinho says we're not interested. You'd of thought a deal for a player that big would probably be in place to some degree by now, if he is moving in January like it's been suggested.
Arsenal plays better most of the match, suffers an idiotic goal, go all to the attack and starts being mauled in counter-strikes. Yet another day in the office for them. But United was bad and it's form is concerning, ending outside the top four is not impossible
For those who cares, it means that the 10th of December is going to be interesting. If City wins at Rome and the CSKA doesn't against Bayern, they qualify. I just hope Kurzawa doesn't sign for them.
In other news, Chelsea is sightseeing. Oh and PSG-Barcelona will be a decider for the 1st place of the group they're in. And BATE Borisov, despite being on their way to have the all time record of conceded goals in group phase (22 so far) is still able to reach an Europa league spot.
I didn't see the final minutes but heard that Bayern tanked. Anyone that saw it confirms?
Why would they tank?
Nothing like that. The played nearly 70 minutes with 10 men and got tired. The goals were individual errors in keeping with such tiredness. I don't think Bayern wanted City to progress.
Last night @ Basel - Real, I've seen two of the weirdest pitch invations EVER.
First, during warm up, a girl running towards C. Ronaldo - and when she was close to him, she started crying on the field, without touching him w/e!?!
And later, about 5min before the end of the match, a couple of normal idiots gave the stewards a run. and then there was this:
I mean, what the ****? :shock:
They came out on the field from the corner, walked slowly on the field as if it was the most normal thing to do. And surprisingly for everyone - the security let them go pretty far and sent them back to the seat afterwards!?!
Over the years I've travelled far, I've seen quite a lot in hundreds of stadiums. But this is on the very top of the weirdest things ever.
City's main asset is Aguero, but somehow in his case injury always lurks around the corner. But when they get lucky and indeed get to the next round, With the improving form of Toure and others they can then be a thread, but they're still more dependable of two or thteee players than a team like Chelsea.
Was looking for some comments on this weekend's matches, but all I am confronted with is the lack of spell check in my previous post..
Anyway, Southampton's run came to an end. It was bound to happen somewhen.
Were they (Southampton) on a run?
What's going so badly wrong at Dortmund?? Rock bottom of the Bundesliga this weekend.
Waiting 20 years to beat your main derby rival at home... and humiliate him by the same occasion. Good job les Verts.
Ok les Verts are doing all right then. Have to say I didn't really follow them since the days of the great Johnny Rep.
Sad world. You cannot say (or repost) anything without being called a racist anymore.
And yes, the injury ghost strikes again.
right on the tail of "the greatest team in premier league history (since Liverpool 2013/2014 champions)" as well as feeling confident going into Champions League last 16
not bad compared to how things were looking a month ago
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