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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. forthegame

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    My personal view has always been to give LvG two seasons.
    Not sure if that's enough. Would it be worth giving him an extra year, it's not the ManYoo way to sack at the drop of a hat...
     
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    Watching Newcastle is just a completely ludicrous thing to do 97% of the time, take our pitiful performance vs Leicester last week. Then for some reason I figured I may as well stay up for the Liverpool in the vain but ultimately true hope in that playing a Big team would inspire a performance from us.

    If only we could fight for points vs the lower half of the table, the opponents we rarely if ever turn up for.
     
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    I am amused.

     
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    I think you have to wait and see how this season ends up. His deal expires at the end of next season, so they could always get rid of him at the end of this season. I wonder how much have we really improved. Sure, we're more difficult to beat in the league now, but the league has been strange this season.

    Then you have to wait and see who is about to replace LVG. I know fans have the dreams of Pep and some have the delusions about taking a newbie manager like Ryan Giggs. Gary Neville is now in the learning process at Valencia, getting ready to come back and restore order at Old Trafford.
     
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    Neville won't be ready for a decade! Same with Giggs IMHO.
     
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    One point off the relegation zone.. Operation come back starts tonight! Or we could just lose to Leicester lol.

    As for the Champions League draw, meh. l'd like to see them change it so you can't play the same team you did the year before in the first knockout round, like they do with not putting you with a team who was in your group. Quarters and onwards it's fine, but Chelsea and PSG for the 3rd year in a row? Will be a good tie, but it feels like groundhog day.
     
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    ^^^Ah, which groundhog?
     
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    Hopefully the first one, last year didn't happen ;)
     
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    Maybe operation comeback was a bit optimistic.

    I said weeks ago it's time to get the kids in, is Loftus-Cheek really any worse than Ramires? I've seen trampolines control a ball better than he does.
     
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    As a consolation, I thought Chelsea played better than United this time, especially with Fabregas and Remy. Not that it is big comfort.

    On a more important question....why is Swansea doing so badly? I don't see they playing at ages
     
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    The players just aren't producing or playing with the desire and intensity needed for the premier league.

    Mourinho might of had a point when he threw it out there earlier.. maybe last season was a fluke, maybe he pushed them beyond what they were capable of and this season is a hangover from that, a bump back down to reality.

    It's a young team that hadn't done it before he arrived, so who knows. If this was happening with the Cech, Cole, younger Terry, Lampard, Drogba side you'd know that wasn't the case, these are talented players, but apart from last season, they haven't done anything.

    We can't attract the best players to England at the moment. It's time we gave the kids a chance and look to sign players with character. Drogba and Lampard might not of been the most talented, but their character was what made us great for a decade. Time to get back to that as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    I remember you talking about Loftus Creek. Who else you would give a chance ?
     
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    There's Christensen a centre back, DaSilva a left back, Aina a right back, Kenedy (who I'm sure you know about and has looked great every chance he's been given), Solanke and Abraham up front. The way Costa looks to pick a fight with everyone and seems allergic to getting in the box, there isn't really a lot to lose giving one of them a crack at it. They both scored 40 goals in 40 games last year, with great records in the youth Champions League.

    The season can't be salvaged, let's see if we can get something out of it. Finding a young player who can contribute for the next decade would do that imo.
     
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    Jose Mourinho has been sacked.
     
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    What?:( Let me check.
     
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    **** sake!

    Get rid of the spineless, weak, unprofessional, diva players.. Not the manager with the trophies who is Chelsea through and through.

    Incredibly disappointed.
     
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    He's going to City. Simeone in the summer is probably the one, Hiddink till the end of the season.
     
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    If Chelsea is relegated, I doubt that Simeone will leave Atletico. They're title contenders, after all.
     
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    Oh absolutely. We won't be going down though, we've been flat out abysmal all year and still aren't in the relegation zone.

    We will lose a lot more games, but there will be wins scattered here and there. Somewhere around 8-15th would be my guess.
     
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    Shame, thought he added character to the league.
     
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    Apparently he's been asked, but won't take it as he feels the club need 10 new players.

    I wouldn't disagree with that, which is why it's so disappointing Mourinho got sacked. These are top players who shouldn't have to rely on anyone to motivate them, they're a talented bunch, but incredibly weak in the mental side of the game.

    As Mourinho said 2 years ago, the team lacks balls and character. He did a hell of a job last season masking that, but it's back to type this season and no manager can fix that. Get rid of the rot in the summer and use the money on players with character is how we build long term success. Character is arguably the most important thing when it comes to drafting in American sports, we could learn a lot from that.
     
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    I hated that the squad bailed on him. What I don't understand is how they transformed themselves from winners last season to a mediocre team!:mad: An about face; 180 degrees turn for the worse?:( We should have more backbone than that and yet Mourinho had to endure the ridicule and ultimately the sacking!:mad: Hope Hiddink doesn't suffer the same fate.
     
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    So, did the players really 'sack' Mourinho?

    It does appear that they fell out but I never watched any of their matches to confirm if the players truly stopped playing their best for him.

    His treatment of Caneiro seemed to have been the catalyst of his downfall.

    But again, another player revolt involving Chelsea and Mourinho? Dejavu.

    Last time it was Terry with the knife...
     
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    They certainly did down tools, I hope so anyway. The majority of the team have been putting in performances way below what is expected for any professional, at any level.

    Every week there would be a leak coming out from the dressing room, someone said they would rather lose than win a game for Mourinho. Personally? I don't want any player saying or thinking that anywhere near my club. Even back in the Benitez days it would of been unthinkable for a player to wish he lost a game to spite the manager.
     
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    Well, some players probably will be sacked at the end of season, so there is hope for next season.

    Not sure if Chelsea will improve at any meaningful amount this season.
     
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    Another thought, if Mourinho knew his players were deliberately underperforming why not bench them?? Surely that's what to do with a 'treacherous' bunch of players? Results couldn't have been worse if he brought others into the team could they?
    My 2p...
     
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    Manchester United.. oh brother..
     
  30. Does anyone know more about the breakdown in relations between Mourinho and the players???
     
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    The Chelsea players decided to turn up to play today.

    The wheels of the Man United bus have really fallen off.......
     
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    Chelsea winning again, looks suspicious. Fans will come round when they climb up the table.

    ManYoo, terrible! Cannot believe that result. LvG in trouble, the club in trouble. WTH is going on??? Will be caught by Chelsea at this rate.
     
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    Just highlights how unprofessional they have been. You can understand a drop off, it happens sometimes. But the results and putting in performances that leave you near the relegation zone? They get rid of the manager and suddenly start to play again, pathetic.

    Some of them have effectively been throwing games to get what they want, my club is used to controversy, but what the players have done this season is the most embarrassing thing in my lifetime supporting them.
     
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    Mourinho's record at Stamford Bridge was fantastic; better than anyone in Chelsea history, it is sad he got played by his own crack unit.

    Looks like he is headed Man Utd's way.
     
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    Jose's crack squad suddenly playing better meant they are cheats.
     
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    l'm really surprised there isn't more of an outrage from the football world in general. You saw what the Chelsea fans made of it (the banners, booing the players, singing Mourinho's name etc..), to have certain players putting in bad performances to get rid of the manager is sickening. lt makes a mockery of the Premier League, diminishes the results the likes of Bournemouth achieved against us.

    When mid table teams with nothing to play for and don't care at the end of the season (when playing teams still fighting for something), there's outrage. Chelsea? They've done exactly that for 5 months! l'm ashamed.
     
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    To me, it is a moral revulsion! An abominable year for the English Premier League!

    They had to do it to a guy who gave CFC a fantastic record!:mad:
     
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    Less than 48 hours after he was sacked, with no manager, they perform like it's this time last year? Seems like they were throwing games the last 5 months, it was the same team, same formation etc..

    The fact it was Mourinho hurts Chelsea fans, but that doesn't really matter. They could of done it to Benitez and there would of been outrage from the fans. Fans of any club expect their players to represent their club on the field, if they were mentally exhausted from last year and gave everything to finish 5th there would be no issue. lt's the total lack of professionalism and respect for the club and the fans that hurts.

    Doesn't matter if you're champions or mid table in the 4th tier, all fans expect is the effort and commitment to the cause, the blatant lack of both is what cuts the deepest with the fans.
     
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    Mourinho is compromised as a manager right now, going to ManYoo is not ideal IMHO.
    The players could decide to get rid of him there too. He needs to go away and rebuild his aura.
    LvG, dunno what's going wrong. Is he living on past glory? Is he not as good a manager as he once was? Was he ever that good??
     
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    Selling important players (no matter how past it they might have been) before seeing if your young blood can perform to your standard is either a rookie mistake or bleeding arrogance.
     
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    Before this year l said how character was the most underrated quality a player could have, now i'm convinced. You can have all the tricks in the book and be supremely talented, it means nothing if you aren't built from the right stuff.
     
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    I think it's safe to say they are not playing for him. Looks just like Chelsea under AVB.
     
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    Mahrez is such a don, wears a Federer cap in his Match of the Day interviews. #NikeAthlete

    Wears them back to front, quick search on twitter also found this.

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    Pep is leaving Bayern in the summer, Carlo taking over.

    I presume MUFC are contact with Pep. The in the know journalists say Pep would love to manage United. Dream club, in his style. But if it isn't to be, he isn't overly bothered. Might be too late, seems he will end up in Manchester anyway.

    If Pep goes to City, surely Mourinho will get the United job.

    Read this and you will get a pretty good idea http://www.amazon.co.uk/Special-One...UTF8&qid=1450612396&sr=1-16&keywords=mourinho

    Is he really? I know Chelsea fans like believe this, but he didn't even want the Chelsea job, he wanted the United job. Roman wanted Pep and not Jose. They settled for each other, and when that happens a messy divorce is always likely.

    Jose is all about himself. He refers to himself winning the league, not Chelsea.
     
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    I have to agree.

    His time will be up soon. The question is, how soon? I think it depends on how the rest of the Christmas period results go. It wouldn't surprise me if he is still manager at the end of the season, though.
     
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    Sunderland was pretty bad, let's see how Chelsea will do at the second half of the season. I think that without sending away three players or so, they won't do very well.

    United has been awful last matches, need a more quality strikers and need it to yesterday. Plus, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin back could solve the defensive problems that they have had in the last rounds

    I expected Swansea to have it's best season, I think I imagined they would finish between 5-8 place if my memory serves my right. What disappointment
     
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    I think Chelsea finishes outside top four. Ivanovic, Costa and maybe a few others seems to be already declining.

    Higuain leaving Madrid was the best decision he tooked so far IMO.

    And buying Felipe Melo has to be the worst purchase decision of the last twenty years or so.
     
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    I agree about not finishing in the top 4. Too many teams have to drop off for it to happen.

    Apparently Abramovich has told Hiddink to start playing the kids more in the second half of the season. Hopefully we can find a few for the future, so not a totally wasted season.
     
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    I think 4th is not a long shot for Chelsea. You just never know...
     
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    The United nightmare continues...... Arnautovic's strike was sublime.
     
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    Oh boy!
     

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