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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Slice'n'dice

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    Ridiculous, would've thought Wenger would be smarter than that. One season wonder if ever I saw it. He won't be an improvement in what they have.

    Well not really free, with his absurd wages and signing on fees it will cost more than most signings. Potentially a great signing though of course, but hopefully his age catches up with him soon.

    Expect Rashford is going to start regretting signing that new contract pretty soon.
     
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    Ibrahimovic to Man Utd.
    Pirlo to Chelsea.

    Excellent start to getting back to winning ways and rebuilding...
     
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    How old is Pirlo now? 50?
     
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    I know that, I was referring to paying PSG while money was never a problem anyway. The wages some Man United players have are huge.

    Mou to fail, age to catch up with Ibra soon... That's quite a lot you're hoping for already. :D
     
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    No I know Man Utd essentially have limitless money these days. Make a bit of a joke of financial fair play. Although that's been clear for a while now. Remember when Fergie and Man Utd fans were so critical of Man City for buying the title. Same thing Man Utd have been trying for several years now. "spend a fortune, pay stupid money, pay silly salaries," "We're not like other clubs who can spend fortunes on proven goods. We invest in players who will be with the club for a long time; who will create the character of the club; who will create excitement for our fans. We are very proud of that and we are going to continue that way." - Whoops.

    First one is more likely I imagine. But let not forget Shevchenko was the best striker in the world when he signed for a Mourinho side, we know what happened after that. Hope springs eternal.
     
  6. Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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    But unlike City, United have won a big number of trophies before the era of money and continued to have success even when teams like Chelsea, City (and some clubs abroad) started to buy everything they could. Those two were nowhere to be seen until rich people from the east took over. Even now with recent spending, United have used youth more than most. Rashford, Lingard, Januzaj, McNair, Blackett, Fosu-Mensah, Borthwick-Jackson, Pereira were all given chances in the senior team. Shaw, Martial and Depay were big youth investments. Players like Herrera, Schneiderlin, Rojo, Darmian, Fellaini can be called proven goods but aren't big world class names. Di Maria, Falcao (loan) and Schweinsteiger (cheap) were the only proven and big name investments post-Fergie. Edit: Forgot Mata. There has been overpaying in some cases no doubt and it's no surprise the coach and the club have been criticized for that, but there is still a long way to go for Manchester United to reach for example City's or Real's cases. They have spent a lot on many already proven world class players over the years and nobody comes close to them.

    Yes, I remember what happened with Shevchenko. But I doubt Ibra case will be the same. He already worked with Mou and it was a successful period for both of them.
     
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    Crikey, looking at all those young names in your post above, I pray they don't all get thrown out because of Mourinho.
     
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    They will probably be loaned out or just spend in younger club squads, who knows... Depends on which players will Mourinho bring.
     
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    Nice compilation, finished with a goal from a goalkeeper. :)

    Suarez with 5 and Messi and Ronaldo with 4 each are on top of the list here.
     
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    Well it's not got the longevity of big spending that those have had but it's been on a similar level. Though yes they have played young players a bit, more than those two anyhow, though it's not really a great batch apart from Rashford and Januzaj the others don't have much chance of playing at a top club really, it's not a golden era for their youth system. Shaw Martial and Depay absolutely massive youth investments, what's that about 100 million plus on 3 players. That's big money for proven players even for most big sides. Likewise those other players may not be proven world class names but they are pretty big money for most of them which is what the issue is, if you spend that money on a player it probably should be a big world class name, unless it's a great find for a top player, which most of those signings mentioned haven't been. It's just not been spent too well of late. Of course they still paid big money for proven players in Fergie's day, especially pre-Glazers, it wasn't like Arsenal hardly spending and just buying young players and developing them as they were then. Not quite like City or Real, but last few years have been. Since Ferguson left and they've seen the crown slipping they've thrown that sort of money to try and do it with.

    No I don't expect it to happen either, but Shevchenko was probably the best striker in the world back then, nobody would have expected him to fall off a cliff as he did, yet he did all the same. He is older than Shevchenko was then and he as just been playing in the French League for the last few years, which isn't great standards. Don't expect him to get the same sort of return that he got there for those reasons, but I do expect him to do well, think it will take a lot more than Ibrahimovic to get the title though, just not a great squad at the moment. Especially as teams like Chelsea and City are going to be much better next season and expect them to spend pretty heavily themselves.
     
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    Looks like Arsenal have managed to get the Vardy deal done in under 24 hours! That's impressive.

    ln recent years they've dragged their feet and missed out (Suarez comes to mind!). So a goal scorer and a missing piece of the jigsaw in midfield with Xhaka to go with Cech last year, that spine is looking alot better than it has done in a long time. Credit to them.
     
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    You're being sarcastic, right?

    Pirlo is what? 37? He won't be able to cope with the pace of the premier league, although I've not heard anything about him and Chelsea.

    As for Ibra, I said it here too, a month ago was it? I wouldn't take him at Liverpool, astronomical wages, short term plan, doesn't suit our style at all etc. I can see why Mourinho went for him, wants him to be United's Costa.

    I don't think he'll flop as bad as Falcao did, but I can't see him contributing much either. He'll probably score a few goals though, and hopefully put Martial on the bench/out of position ;)

    How's Suarez relevant? o_O

    Arsenal offered 40million (apparently his release clause at the time) and a pound (absolutely ridiculous and surprising coming from Wenger - the 5-1 was a sweet payback though) and Henry told them to do one (the famous "What are they smoking over there at Emirates" ;)). Nothing to do with time. We didn't want to sell, end of.
     
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    I want him to bring the pes5 and 6 form with him. :eek: Then, no one is safe.

    But yeah, I'm not expecting anything like that. Just good to have the charismatic enigma in the squad. He is big time.
     
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    l was being sarcastic yeah. Pirlo and Zlatan are both mid 30's, ones in the MLS, ones in the Premier League (with Rashford and Martial behind him!). lt's what l feared would happen at Man Utd, but l didn't expect it so soon. Suppose at least they're signing people though, all i've heard about us is a few Dutch kids and Lukaku for £65 Million o_O we're screwed lol.

    As for Suarez, it was the £40 Million and a quid exactly. They thought that triggered the release clause and didn't expect Liverpool to laugh at them for being petty and ridiculous. Which is my point, the way Arsenal have handled the transfer market in the past has been embarrassing at times (what are they smoking at the Emirates, indeed!). Being decisive and reasonable this summer has got them Xhaka and Vardy before anyone else could react.
     
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    Is Vardy a done deal?
     
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    This season had been an absolute disaster as far as sports are concerned hasn't it :(

    Pretty much.
     
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    Keep your chin up and fantasize about lobbing me to death again. Hopefully it will bring some joy to your heart.

    Soccer Aid is fun, but no Ramsay, no good. :(
     
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    haha that does help a bit not gonna lie

    Almost forgot about it just tuned in should be fun, whys Ramsay not playing?
     
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    lol glad it does.

    He ruptured his Achilles tendon and had to get emergency surgery.
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    For Leicester Football Club that is sad. It would have been great for the fans to see how far the title winning team could go in CL and EPL next season. However I totally understand how for personal/financial reasons he's leaving now, his monetary value is at a peak right now.
     
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    If it is, it will just be the start if the exodus. Unfortunately, that's the way it works almost all the time.
     
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    I can't see Vardy being happy at Arsenal. There's no chemistry in that squad.
     
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    Dimitar Berbatov, took one look at City and he said **** off. Dimitar Berbatov.
     
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    Come to think of it, Murray reaching those finals, Klopp arrival, those beautiful nights at anfield, lobbing @Poisoned Slice to death...:p Yeah, not too shabby. I've never liked clay anyway :cool:

    Congrats to your man btw, didn't see ya In the match thread at all.

    Love Sherlock!
     
  26. Russeljones

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    I don't get it..
     
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    Dimitar Berbatov scored 2 tonight for the rest of the world team in Soccer Aid. It just reminded me of the old chant at Old Trafford when United signed Berbatov. City were supposed to be after him and reports came out that he had signed for them.
     
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    That's the way to do it, be the glass is half full guy. ;)

    Thanks. Commiserations to all of you Murray fans. You guys are the nicest group of all 4. :)

    I wasn't watching the final, that's why you didn't see me.
     
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    Who won that match?
     
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    Berbatov. Did **** all for United, only scored a hat trick against us, October 2010. The c*nt :p

    Cheers mate. I'm always optimistic you know me :p

    Why? Nerves? :p
     
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    England won 3-2 and Jose had his success at Old Trafford. Damian Lewis hairdo stole the show lol.

    Defoe scored twice and Mark Wright scored the other.
     
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    To be fair, sexy touch Berbatov won the EPL Golden Boot that season. ;)

    Yep. Saved 10 years of my life, worth it. :p
     
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    I thought Jose pulled out of that match and gave the role to someone else.

    Oh well, one exhibition certainly can't harm a manager.
     
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    Predictions I made around August last year
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    Man City
    Liverpool
    FA Cup Liverpool
    Capital one cup Sunderland
    CL atletico
    EL dortmund
    Player of the season hazard (lool)
    Signing of the season bentekkers :oops:
    Flop of the season Depay and sterling :cool: (more hope then expectation but it was the only one I got right lol)

    You bought him for something like 35 million though, I remember you sold tevez right after and it didn't work that well.

    Haha yes that especially the last 4 games, cruel for the Novak fans.
     
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    They were together for one season, 2008-09.

    Berbatov made a nice impact in his time here. It all went downhill when Sir Alex didn't even put him on the bench in the 2011 CL final, in the season when he was the best goalscorer. Next season he warmed the bench pretty much all the time. I really wanted him to be the part of the squad that won #20 but he went to Fulham in late August. This is one of those rare occasions where I think Sir Alex was wrong.

    Don't know what happened in those last 4 games, but I will check it out tomorrow. :)
     
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    A nice impact, but still considered a flop. His Federer class and elegance was not appreciated by everybody.

    Lazy player, etc. :/
     
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    I will stand back next time. I'm going to make it my goal not to be lobbed once, even if we are using serve and volley muppets. :p

    You're right. Jose was in the studio before the match and in the director box for the match. He wasn't managing this year.
     
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    Some of the Dirt sheets reporting that Arsenal are making move for Mahrez as well. Raiding time.
     
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    Just saw that too!

    Shame our manager is hauled up in some complex in France for the next month. Wouldn't say no to joining in and getting Kante. Mourinho seems to be linked with a few Portuguese youngsters for midfield (and Saul). Wouldn't surprise me if he went after Kante though... Who wouldn't want "the new Makelele"?
     
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    Really? I remember refreshing like mad at the end of that deadline day. The most exciting transfer window ever for me. :)
     
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    Together with Di Natale, Berbatov must be the most underrated footballer of this century.
     
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    Klose probably is. And I say this as a Berbatov fan.
     
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    Yes, Klose is up there at well. Besides a great goalscorer, technically a better footballer than given credit for.
     
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    Back when Man City came into money, the speculation started about them hijacking the deal. Probably just the new owner making noise. It was never anything serious, but enough to get that creative Old Trafford chant going. haha
     
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    Yes, it is not an ideal situation with Conte managing Italy.

    I see Kante is linked with many clubs. Can't blame Leicester for cashing in, even if they give the impression they don't like it. Of course, the club wont mind and the money keeps coming in. More than they would have ever expected. Just thinking, they will have to sign replacements, but they will be looked down on for not being able to live up to the miracle of this season. Of course, I could be wrong and Leicester could conquer Europe. 10000/1?

    Schweinsteiger is set to leave Man United according to reports. I can still remember last season saying how happy I was that he signed. I think it was you and some others that had doubts. Seems you were right. He didn't get a chance to make any real impact due to the injuries. I was just thinking the player from world cup 2014 was signing for us. Oh well.
     
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    Yeah it's a big summer for us, we're really behind the 8 ball with City making moves, Mourinho starting to get his plans for United together, Arsenal tooling up etc.. We're stuck linked to the wrong kind of players and half the squad seeming like they could leave, not good!

    l highly doubt Leicester would win it again next year, even if they had the same squad as last time round! (even with upgrades). So yeah, if they do lose Vardy, Mahrez and Kante.. maybe mid table?

    l can't remember what l said about Schweinsteiger, l really wish it would of worked out tough. He's such a great player, he was just too old and his body keeps breaking down unfortunately. Funny thing is, Mourinho is probably the one manager who could get something out of him at his age, it's just those injuries that probably make letting him go a wise move.
     
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    Good riddance Schweinsteiger. Screamed 'wrong' from the get-go.
     
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    Oh, dear
     
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    Yes, only won the Golden Boot in a title winning season.
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    Still better than most Prem mids
     
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