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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Tiki-Taka

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    You would definitely benefit from getting a good center back. Last season I think was more because of that possession philosophy from Van Gaal and De Gea's form that Man United conceded a relatively low number of goals in the league. Bailly, Blind, Smalling, Jones and Rojo aren't very impressive if you ask me.
     
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    Nobody will be impressive when they have to succeed Vida and Rio.
     
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    Yeah Sky are reporting it now so it looks done. 95-100m bid accepted + 20m Euros for his agent, wow.

    Fingers crossed he fails massively :oops:
    There's no doubt fans will expect him to hit the ground running, and if he doesn't, well things will certainly get interesting! :p

    I cant see them going after another centre half, they've already spent 30m for that bloke from Villarreal. Maybe a cheapish, experienced one but certainly not a big name. Then again, it's United + Mourinho, you never know with them. :p
     
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    Yeah, I agree with this. I was thinking about starting 11 and I'm sure it will be Smalling and Bailly as the pair. Not expecting another big name signing after Bailly. We could do with some cover. I'm not a fan of Blind at cb. I'm not sure if he will stay.

    I often mocked the philosophy, but it definitely played its part in making us a dominant force at the back last season.
     
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    I will make sure I bump this in case he scores against Liverpool and performs his Dab. :D
     
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    I've dealt with such agents on footy manager.

    You and your finger crossing. Boo you. :p
     
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    Just to post this before the imminent Pogba deal skyrockets us into 1st... :D

    Expected to see the first four there, while Bournemouth make a surprise appearance as the 5th club in EPL with most money spend in this summer transfer window.

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    Returners to the Premier League Middlesbrough and Europa League contestants West Ham have brought in the most players so far.

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    With Van Gaal and without any kind of European football, Manchester United smashed the British transfer record for Di Maria, one of Real Madrid's (then European champion) best players. They are one extremely powerful club, got to say that. :p
     
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    haha well it's not my prediction, I said I hope he fails massively. And I know he's a quality player but better players then him have failed to adapt in the Premier league. First couple of months are very important.

    Liverpool may be top (will be second after the pogba signing) but you've got to look at the outgoings, most important factor is the net spend. Compare Liverpools and United's net spend for example, massive difference. And that's not including Benteke's 30+2m move to Palace.

    Doesn't matter. Obviously they've got money and a decent enough pull, yeah. What matters is how these players perform on the pitch, Di Maria didn't work out that well did he. And trust me, if United continue to finish outside the top4 and play that uninspiring stuff, they won't be able to attract these big name players. Maybe that's what they need tbh.
     
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    I know that is important as well.

    Jose hasn't axed anyone yet, he is waiting for the preseason to end and is expected to show the exit door to several players. Won't earn much from those transfers alone but it won't take the club too long to get the money spent on the signings back.

    Classic Ibra said that people shouldn't be concerned with how Pogba cost so much because Zlatan shirts will get those 100 million back in a blink of an eye. :D
     
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    Well I was responding to you saying you can't see them spending much money in the remainder of this transfer window. Don't be surprised if they actually do. Of course the performances of those players matter. Di Maria wasn't really a flop from some games I have seen (2nd most assists in the EPL that season) but it was more about Van Gaal eventually benching him for that guy Ashley Young (LOL!).

    I think the club will remain attractive for a long time. The history, the valuable football brand, the money are all there. Pogba said a few years back that he would rather retire than return to a club that didn't give him a chance. Look where we are now...
     
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    Friday articles. Anybody want to guess?

    Jose Mourinho has told nine players, including Bastian Schweinsteiger, that they can leave Manchester United this summer.
     
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    Always felt sad for those players who are extremely good but injury prone.

    I assume that list of nine players is mostly made of youngsters, no?
     
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    I also think they would mostly be youngsters. Keane has been mentioned, Schweinsteiger, Blind?, Januzaj?, Valencia? I could just list names, but I'm not sure. More than likely paper talk, I'm not expecting United to get rid of nine players.
     
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    Anyone under the age of 27 has been told they can leave.

    He's lining up half of the MLS All Stars to replace them.. Drogba and Pirlo top the list. That's my theory ;)
     
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    Fellaini definitely should be part of the United clear out, Januzaj has flattered to deceive since breaking into the squad.
     
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    Apparently Chelsea had a bid of 57 MILLION rejected for Lukaku!!!!!! Everton want closer to 70 million. Lol.

    Dont know what's worse, Chelsea making that offer or Everton actually rejecting it.
     
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    Can somebody send me the fantasy league code please.

    New email address and I can't remember my old account.
     
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    The TTW private league group haven't been created yet it seems, the original creator of the group has to sign up for it to re-generate?
     
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    Well if they can get more then rejecting it is a shrewd move. Crazy money though I agree, prices are really going mad this summer. Do rate Lukaku though thing he is a very good player. Not worth that of course but that's the way things are going. Imagine if Everton do get 70 million for Lukaku and 45 for Stones. If they spent that money well they could do something next season.

    Really is shaping up to be potentially one of the most competitive Premier League seasons in years.
     
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    Agreed, Lukaku is a very good player, one of the leagues finest strikers no doubt but still 70 million? I mean that sounds ridiculous even by nowadays standards, surely Chelsea are not that stupid. Fair play to the bluenoses I guess if they manage to pull it off (actually no, **** them :p).

    Heard about Karius? Absolutely gutted, we just can't catch a break with these injuries can we. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah, sounds ridiculous I know but you never know. With the likes of Higuain as good as he might be, going for 75 million at the age of 29 anything is possible.

    Yeah Karius it's **** news a lot of injuries. Wonder how much might be to do with these famously intense preseason being partially responsible. Although that one was just during a match of course. At least Mignolet as back up keeper is better than Bogdan or Ward. Still annoying though.
     
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    Great second half from Man United. It wouldn't be a proper match without an Ibra special. :cool:

    I know it's just a friendly, but someone please send off this referee.
     
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    I'll be praying that they give us some of this when EPL arrives.
     
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    Looks like me saying that Gameiro was close to Barcelona was a nice jinx. The French forward has signed for Atletico Madrid on a four year deal.
    I saw a bit of the second half and I have to say that Rashford boy is great potential. Hope you will keep him guys.

     
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    Could be a good signing, haven't seen an awful lot of him but he seems to have done pretty well for Sevilla of late. Athletico definitely need someone better than Torres to be in their starting 11. Cannot believe they've been having him as a first choice in what has become a top side.

    Given the manager is Jose Mourinho, the best thing for his career would be to leave ASAP. His got Zlatan Pensionimovic (nice mishit bicycle kick today bouncing in goal of the season probably) no space for Rashford. Doesn't like his young players does Jose.
     
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    Not happening. Zlatan isn't going to be around forever or maybe not even 2 years. Rashford will have his chance.
     
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    He's young. Jose won't fancy him. He'll buy some other big strong 29 year old striker when Zlatan leaves or retires. It's the Mourinho way. He doesn't believe in youth.
     
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    He is neither the style of striker that Jose likes. Nor is he the age. It's an uphill struggle to get himself anywhere while Jose Mourinho is the manager.
     
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    *It's Atletico.

    He did decline several years ago obviously, but Torres did an ok job last season, at least in La Liga. Also having a guy like Griezmann who is in form of his life makes it all less of an issue.

    Jose isn't that bad in terms of the youth policy. He gave a chance to a bit less than 50 youngsters in the first team over the years. It's his usually defensive style that concerns me as someone who wants Manchester United to be competitive again. And Zlatan certainly isn't a guy for pension, he always scored loads of goals and is still doing that.
     
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    Nobody is guaranteed to play every game. Rashford will definitely get his chances.
     
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    I keep hearing all this about things not being the Mourinho way. We will see and you can say I told you so, but I disagree. Rashford will be fine.
     
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    Great boy. Hope he and Martial stay for the long term.

    I also hope Mou won't sell Mata like he did in Chelsea. That guy is really a fantastic player and has some kind of a nice shining presence... You just can't hate him even if you wanted to. :)
     
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    Well yeah Griezmann is quality so that helps and obviously he's not terrible now. But it's kind of surprising that someone with his diminished powers is still a regular for him considering the sort of level they have elevated themselves to.

    How many of those players have been odd league cup games against small sides. How many have actually broken through into his teams. That centre back at Madrid Varane I think, can't think of many others. But who else. It's no coincidence that when he leaves sides they tend to struggle, not because he's such an amazing manager (though he is very good don't get me wrong) but because he prefers older experienced players, so the teams are in need of fresh blood and investment.

    Defensive style isn't necessarily a problem though he is a master at those horrendous 1-0s against other big sides will just mean his football is ugly, but it does work a lot of the time. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is probably going to do quite well for them. But he is old and he's never played in the Premier League before, there are no guarantees many similarly high quality players have failed to adapt at younger ages - Shevchenko, Falcao and Morientes to name a few top strikers at the time of signing for premiership clubs that couldn't do it.
     
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    Great goalkeeper, brick wall of a defense and Griezmann. Atletico are now masters of winning ugly with just one goal, maybe even more now than in that season when they won La Liga. I think they played better and nicer football back then.

    I honestly don't know, only remembered Mourinho bringing that up in one of his recent press conferences. Maybe a list of those players can be found.

    Zlatan played in almost every other league before and has done well in all of them. It shouldn't be a problem for him to settle in well. For him, the big problem have always been and will remain the continental competitions.
     
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    Well indeed. But most of their team is of real quality in terms of players. Not on the level of Real and Barca but excellent nonetheless. Just a surprise that's all. But obviously it's worked pretty well so who am I to argue with it.

    Yeah I suspect it will be a large majority of them just playing in small cup games against small teams like the League cup. Which pretty much every manager does. But the amount of youngsters he's actually bringing through is very small. I too would like to see the list of players and see how many he's actually properly brought through rather than odd games in cups, I suspect the number will be rather small particularly considering most of those clubs had pretty good youngsters, Just sends them out on loan or doesn't bring them through. But we shall of course see if this continues, I suspect so but who knows.

    Those other players I mentioned had also played in a number of leagues before. Shevchenko not too much but he was the best striker in the world at the time of moving. Ibrahimovic isn't even that and is 5 years older. Falcao of course played in France, Spain, Portugal and did well in all. Morientes France and Spain. Point is there are no guarantees, as I say I expect him to do pretty well, not like his PSG numbers the French League is, lets be honest, not that high quality. But I expect him to do well, but it would not surprise me if he flopped there is a precedent for these things.
     

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