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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Cesc Fabregas

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    PR ploy to get more money out of the glazers. Got to give it to Fergie, it was some acting performance, he should recieve an oscar.
     
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    ^^^ Why are they wearing dresses? :)
     
  4. Dave M

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    Maybe it's something the people in Manchester do?:confused:
     
  5. Feña14

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    Are you saying Man City and Man Utd fans are all big girls? Shocking! ;)
     
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    United and City supporters are all a bunch of little girls? You don't say!
     
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    Haha, Dave has alot of answering to do! :)
     
  8. Feña14

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    Mikel was brilliant again today, just like he was against Spartak in midweek. Every week he seems to get around a 6.5/10 in the papers, but he's a player Chelsea fans watch more than most others on the pitch as he was seen as a bit of a liability in the past. Not anymore, though! Boswingwa will love coming back into this side knowing he has the luxury of Mikel dropping back to help out.
     
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    Certainly City fans might not be a bunch of little girls, but the team certainly is. Nasri kicked their asses left and right today.

    Got me 14 points in the fantasy football today too!
     
  10. Cesc Fabregas

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    Nice result. Glad we disposed of those pretenders. Nasri and Fabianski were superb.

    All that money spent and they have mugs like Milner starting, Gareth Barry is a fat slug aswell.
     
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    Lol at slagging a City side who were down to 10 men after 5 minutes with an injured Tevez and Yaya and still giving Arse all they could handle.

    I suppose it's nice that they finally got a win against a big club like City even if it had to come against 10 men, Arsenal haven't had much to be proud of in the last few years :)
     
  12. Cesc Fabregas

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    More to cheer about than City.... Hardly alot to be proud about City, watching 25 million for average James Milner and 220k a week Barca reject Yaya. Must be a joy to watch that *** slug Barry motor around the midfield every week, it's like watching Xavi and Iniesta.
     
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    I think you need to calm down a bit, they're all fine players and that win only got Arsenal level on points with City. Let's be honest before the game Arsenal supporters were scared ****less that they'd lose at ours for the 4th time running, will be very close at the end of the season between Arse/Spurs/City/United to see who finishes top 4.
     
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    It would have been more satisfying to win against 11 but I'll take the points. Arsenal's pace asked quite a few questions, especially Nasri and Cesc.

    Great to see Bendtner get off to a flying start.

    Our central defense scares me a bit ATM. I'll be glad to see Vermaelen and Koschelny back.

    Also wondered how DeJong stayed out of the book :)

    Great save by Hart on the penalty but I thought Fabianski looked solid as well.
     
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    City, a big club? Bre, you've got to be joking. When was the last time they qualified for the Champions League?

    And anyone who backs City shouldn't have much to be proud of either, especially when the club is linked with a move to buy the star striker of their biggest rivals, and pay him over 230k a week, despite the fact that he hasn't scored a goal in open play for his club all year, and has been awful on the international stage for years now. And City fans can't attack Arsenal for not winning anything - last thing they won was the second division like 10 years ago.
     
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    I was joking, the Arsenal fans sure make a big deal out of beating a "small" club and take the time to sing songs saying that Ade should have been shot in Africa, just a bit odd is all.

    And Chelsea/Barca/Real Madrid were waiting in the wings for Rooney as well so obviously everyone thinks he would improve their team.
     
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    Nice to see Boyata is actually allowed to be sent off! He should of gone early on in the Chelsea game, I think even Breaker admitted to that one :)

    Pretty good weekend from a Chelsea point of view, with Man City picking up no points. Shame Stoke couldn't hold on against Man Utd after they got the late equaliser, can't have it all I suppose :)
     
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    Yep unfortunately the same can't be said about Gary Chuckle, getting away with red card offence at Stoke but I guess that's not that surprising.
     
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    I'll take a win over City any way we can get it. I think everyone knows down the road with the proper application of cash, just how tough City is going to be. I'm impressed with form so far this year and thought it might take longer for them to gel.

    Also really glad that Mancini didn't play Adam Johnson the other day. He could have caused problems down that flank.
     
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    Yeah would have rather had Johnson out there than Milner who didn't really do anything and hasn't done in a few weeks, surely Mancini needs to see that he isn't a winger and even when he does play well it doesn't really help to have him put crosses in since Tevez and Silva are too small of targets to aim at. Milner is also the only outfield player not a defender to not be subbed in any games so far which is very odd and certainly affects the creativity near the end of games, would much rather Johnson plays and perhaps Milner moves to midfield.
     
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    ^^Agree with that.

    Not to be obvious but Tevez is simply awesome right now. Nice to see a top player play with so much passion.

    He scared the crap out of me everytime he touched the ball the other day. Especially the way he left Djourou in his slipstream.

    Also funny to see Song clowning around with Ade at halftime and pulling off his "do rag" and throwing it on the ground. With more and more foreign exports in the league, you don't seem to get the hatred in some of the big fixtures any more and that's not a bad thing. I remember Clichy saying he actually likes Spurs :)

    I remember Le Saux coming in on Viera a few years back with a Nigel DeJong style karate kick. Don't see that much now.
     
  22. Feña14

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    Who do we have for the Ballon d'Or then? It's hard to look past Sneijder for me personally.
     
  23. Cesc Fabregas

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    Messi, Iniesta or Xavi. Don't rate Sneijder at all. Greedy little shot merchant.
     
  24. Feña14

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    He was very good in Serie A to be fair, although he did have Milito to finish all the half chances he created. The way he performed in the Champions League was even better, he was amazing in the second leg against Chelsea, won the quarter final against Moscow, was involved in everything against Barcelona and then set up the opener in the final. Then you have his 5 goals to help a fairly average side to the World Cup final.

    From what i've heard about him off the pitch he's not particularly great, which could well go against him.
     
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    I would give it to Sneijder but its highly likely its gonna go to somebody from Spain.
     
  26. PED

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    +1, after looking at his accomplishments last year, he's hard to beat
     
  27. NickC

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    Me too. He was absurd in his second match for Inter, against Milan. My jaw was on the floor for the entire match.

    He was awesome in the UCL as well. The only other player who could possibly deserve it is Iniesta.
     
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    Wasn't Iniesta injured half of last year? Messi was again the best player in the world I think, the goals and magic in almost every match say it all.
     
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    It's close, on pure individual skill, you're probably right and Messi takes it but Sneijder is close and add in the Italian title, Champs League and WC finals and I think Wesley's got it. Just my opinion though.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. Sneijder was better than Messi when Inter knocked Barcelona out in the semi final, and Sneijder also had a better World Cup for a team less talented than Messi's Argentina.

    They seem to put a hell of a lot of important on the World Cup, which I don't necessarily agree with, but on that basis it has to be Sneijder.
     
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    Because Mourinho set up to defend and counter and still would have lost if not for the phantom handball in the end, Even Xavi/Iniesta/Pedro didn't do much in that semi.

    Maybe less talented forwards, but Holland actually had a defence and midfield as well as a decent manager, Argentina's most consistent midfielder throughout the world cup was 35 year old Veron and before South Africa they were getting ripped apart 6-1 by the likes of Bolivia.
     
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    So Sneijder doesn't deserve to win the Ballon d'Or because his manager out-thought the opposing manager when it mattered? :confused:

    I'd say Argentina has a defence, Samuel and Demichelis are the centre backs of the two Champions League finalists. Throw in Burdisso who's been great for Roma over the past 18 months or so. Are Heitinga and Mathijsen really better than Samuel and Demichelis? Is there really much difference between van Bronckhorst and Heinze? Not really. Mascherano or De Jong? Meh.

    There's not really a whole lot between Argentina and Holland. Whichever way you look at it, Sneijder still outperformed Messi in the Champions League AND World Cup. In the UEFA Club Awards Sneijder was the midfielder of the year (beating Xavi and Iniesta) and Milito was the forward of the year (beating Messi), which again suggests it should be Sniejder.
     
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    Seeing as how the likes of Brazil, Chile and other South American teams routinely struggle away to Bolivia makes me want to discount that 6-1 loss, you're probably forgetting that Bolivia's national stadium is at an incredibly high altitude (pretty sure it's one of the highest elevations for a football stadium anywhere in the world), and if you've never been there before, nor do you have enough time to properly acclimate yourself to the conditions, you're going to be hard pressed to get a result, no matter the gulf in class between your players and the opposition. It's called home field advantage for a reason, and there's a reason why Sepp tried to force Bolivia to start playing it's matches at sea level. It's damn near impossible to beat them in La Paz.
     
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    ....nevermind. NickC beat me to the comment on Bolivia.
     
  35. Cesc Fabregas

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    Sneijder wasn't even in Inter Milan's top 3players last season. Milito, Maicon, Cambiasso, Julio Cesar and maybe Lucio were better than him. No ways has he been the best player this season, his performances at the WC weren't great either, he just scored a few flucky goals. Most dutch fans would rather Van Der Vaart started ahead of him because he is a better playmaker. Sneijder is fast becoming the most overrated player on the planet. If he wins the Ballon d'or, I would be pissed off.
     
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    Milito, Sneijder, Zanetti, Lucio and Samuel were Inter's best players last year. It's shocking that Sneijder is the only one on the short list. You have to question it when someone like Gyan who scored 13 goals in France gets in, whilst Milito who got 30 and won everything going domestically doesn't get a look in. He scored in every knock-out round of the Champions League, including 2 in the final, the winner on the final day of Serie A, the winner in the Coppa Italia etc.. Are they really trying to tell us Gyan had a better 2010 than Milito?

    It's also madness Ashley Cole isn't in there. I know he's disliked on a personal level, but it's hard to argue against how well he's played all year.
     
  37. Cesc Fabregas

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    Yeah, Cole has been fantastic for Chelsea for a few years now. Only England player to walk away from the WC with his head held high aswell. Best fullback on the planet.
     
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    Fair enough about the altitude but Argentina still backed into the World Cup on poor form and in my opinion were being overrated by a lot of people going in, them only making the quarterfinals in World Cup shouldn't detract from what Messi did last year.

    There are probably 20-30 players who should be there before Gyan, but again his World Cup exploits got him a bit overrated.

    I can definitely see how Sneijder could deserve to win, I just think that Messi was the best last year and deserves it more than he does. With the emphasis on how Holland did in World Cup yeah he could definitely win it though I don't think he was even top 3 best players last year.
     
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    Fair enough :)

    I have to say i'm not too happy with Tevez at the moment! I traded Berbatov for him in my fantasy team and he goes and gets himself injured. Suppose it serves me right for putting a Man Chity player in my team ;)
     
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    Tevez will be back next week and Berbatov will probably get less points/minutes when Rooney is fit soon so I don't think it's that bad a move. It kills my team though since now my only fit striker is Kevin Davies v.v. I'm about to take a risk and go for Bosingwa soon since I'm cheap and Ivanovic already messed up my team earlier in the season but don't know if he'll be a consistent starter when Alex is fit again. Decisions decisions..
     
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    This is the second time it's happened; I drop Dempsey on a Friday and he scores a double on the following Saturday. Then I put him back in for several weeks, and he doesn't do shat. Then I drop him and he scores. FML
     
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    That's why I stopped doing fantasy football years ago. It's too frustrating.
     
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    That's why you don't drop the guys you spend at least a decent amount on, also Fulham were playing Wigan you have to figure they'd get goals from somewhere. I learned my lesson when dropping Cahill once earlier in the season and he happened to bag a goal and get 11 points.

    WHAT THE ####ing **** AT CLATTENBURG ALLOWING UNITED'S GOAL. City lose to Wolves in gutless fashion then this happens you couldn't make it up.
     
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    My sisters boyfriend was at the Wolves v Man City game, I enjoyed his little texts updates! ;)

    Brilliant win for Chelsea today, we missed Lampard so much in midfield and Drogba was clearly unfit after his injury, but when Ivanovic nodded it in with 6 minutes left the whole end went crazy. I actually missed Anelka's goal as I was off buying a coffee and a Wispa! lol, still, gives me another reason to look forward to Match of the Day tonight :)
     
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    It can be, yeah. If you buy a player cheap and he performs well, his price goes up. Unfortunately though you can't sell him at his current price, you only get the money back you payed for him :confused:

    I'm not sure how that's going to work if the players prices keep going up every week, yet we still have the same money we started with.

    For instance, I started with Malouda at 9.9 Million, he's now worth 10.4 Million. So you'd think if I removed him i'd get his current market value. They've changed that since last year.
     
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    He must have told you all about Mancini deciding it was a good choice to bring on Pablo Zabaleta for Ade when we were 2-1 down and looking for a goal! Honestly that is one of the worst subs I can remember seeing in the last couple of years and I can't begin to imagine what he was thinking with that one. Also playing Milner on the wing and keeping Johnson on the bench especially against lower half sides just doesn't make sense to me.


    Sounds like you had a good away day even if you're part of the prawn sandwich brigade who misses the goals and all :)

    For the fantasy I think they give you an extra .1m for every .2m in price the player goes up when you have them, I had Bale in my team from week one at 6.5m and I could sell him at 6.7m if I wanted, it's underwhelming but fair I suppose.
     
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    Pfft! There was a massive accident on the M6 on the way up, the teams were doing the toss when we got to our seats. I thought half an hour in would be a good time to go to the toilet and get food, but I guess not! I just saw the goal I missed on Match of the Day though, so got there in the end.
     
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    Matt Jarvis for England.

    Talking of which, big clubs are sniffing around our 'new Matt Jarvis', Ashley Miller.
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    ^^ Lulz excuses excuse Fena let's just accept that you're a fairweather fan :).

    And I don't want to see Jarvis' name for a while..tore our defence a new arsehole..

    Joey Barton for England definitely though!
     
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    It still amazing to me how overated Messi is and how underated his teamates are ( Inesta, Xavi, Pedro etc ). Of course Messi is a great player no doubt!! BUT he is overated , he is SOOOO greedy and gets a pass on the many terrible desicons he makes all the time. Count the number of times he loses possesion of the ball due to his greed when he has WIDE open players to pass to for instance. Or how many bad shots he takes in a match to get his 1 goal. It makes me wonder how much people actually watch the matches, or just the highlights. Watch Barca when Messi doesnt play, they are still a great team. Watch Barca when either Xavi or Inesta is not playing and they are no where as good. Messi is a Great player on a great team. World cup was a great example of how without the right system and certain players around him he is not so amazing.

    Having said this he wil probabley win the award!!! HAHA

    Hope this makes sense I am half alseep!!! LOL
     

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