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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Breaker

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    I dunno just never seen Downing as anything more than average and although Carroll is good he's no Shearer..we'll see when the season starts.

    They are well and truly shocking to watch, almost did the same thing at the World Cup where they probably should have beaten Spain if not for Crocky's wrongly disallowed goal. :shock:
     
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    Agree with your top 2, and maybe Liverpool for 3rd. Arsenal though is a whole different ball game and the pressure is really on Wenger - and from what I hear everyday here in n. London - not least from his own teams' fans. I suspect this could be a make or break season at the Emirates then. On which basis I might rank them a tad lower (with Wenger retiring/moving club/getting sacked by Christmas. :twisted: ) Chelsea I find very hard to predict with the new man in charge, but unless he truly is Jose M II, yes, around 5th place. Spurs at 4th spot (Redknapp getting put in prison for fraud apart
    :shock: ). Anyhow, that's all from Mystic Ross, aside to also throw in, I'll really go out on a limb here fellas and say that Barca will be my Champion's League winners! .:)
     
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    1. United
    2. Chelsea
    3. City
    4. Arsenal
    5. Liverpool
    6. Spurs

    With the exception of the new money in Manchester, I think it will be business as usual.

    As a Gooner, I am personally confident we will finish in the top 4. Liverpool have improved, but I'm unconvinced by a number of their big money signings, and Spurs have been static for a while. I think the legacy Chelsea squad will make one last push, backed up by a couple of new signings, and run United fairly close.

    With regard to bringing in CBs, Wenger should just pay up and have time to blend them into the squad. Defensive chemistry is so important, and we haven't had any for years, and the extra few millions (if that is the stumbling block) in order to bring in players early in the preseason is worth it in this position.

    Either way, it's shaping up to be one of the more exciting Premier League seasons, with a lot of clubs posturing.
     
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    Wenger still doesn't seem bothered about the keeper situation, he missed out on Given.

    Almunia should be leaving, the young Pole is inexperienced, Fabianski is a ticking time bomb.
     
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    They could and should have picked up Brad Fridel on the cheap.

    No chance in hell Liverpool wins it all or finishes top 3 this season.

    1. United
    2. City
    3. Chelsea
    4. Arsenal
    5.Liverpool
    6. Spurs
    7. Sunderland
    8. Fulham
    9. Bolton


    I have a feeling Chelsea are going to suck this season, too many glaring holes in the side and Roman has been reluctant to splash the cash out on the players that Chelsea will need to make a big push on all fronts this term. There's still 5-6 new players needed, maybe 1 or 2 will come. Maybe.

    As for Arsenal, it all depends on the impending sale of Fab and Nasri. I heard they've got Juan Mata lined up, which would be sweet.

    Liverpool will have a good strikeforce this year but that's it.

    City will make it far. Really far, but won't win it. United will.

    Sunderland is going to surprise a lot of folks this year. They were pretty good last year and now that Gyan is settled I feel that him alongside some of their new signings will get them in great shape this time around. Maybe make a push for Europe.

    I'm not sold on Spurs, but if Modric stays around then something could happen. Anyone see VdV's wicked free kick goal vs. Orlando Pirates from last week?


    Also, I just put down a few bucks on Real Madrid taking the Champions League at 9/2 odds. Smart bet, I think. Madrid will take it this year.
     
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    ^^^^

    Yeah, i'm not expecting much from Chelsea. I'm looking forward to the season and have got Stoke tickets for the first game, but anywhere in the Champions League places will be a pretty decent finish. The team is just all over the place, even if they did spend £50 Million on the creative midfielder everyone says we need, we don't have any wingers for him to pass to who can make things happen, nor create space for him to do anything for a Torres or Drogba.

    I also think Sunderland will do well, i'm hoping Wolves can aswell. I'm a fan of Roger Johnson, they've got Jamie O'Hara signed, Hunt and Jarvis on the wings and Fletcher + Doyle up front. That should be enough for a solid mid table finish, on paper.
     
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    Mohamed Bin Hammam gets a lifetime ban from football for corruption. Let's hope he's the first of many.
     
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    The irony is Emperor Palpatine is still in power.
     
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    Hopefully Bin Hammam will take the decision to the CAS and they'll give him a fair trial, and in presenting the evidence to support his case, he opens up the proverbial closet of skeletons and the whole ExCo along with Blatter get thrown out and are handed lifetime bans.

    Qatar should also be stripped of the 2022 WC as well. That would make my day.
     
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    Finally justice as Paraguay are demolished in the final.

    Meanwhile Balotelli creates more headlines and ammunition to be aimed towards the club what a guy.
     
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    Whenever you have a chance take a look at this letter that Messi wrote to the Argentinian People after the tie against Colombia in the Copa America. Very interesting.
     
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    Anyone care to give a quick, brief translation? Thanks
     
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    Looks like you could be safe on the Modric front :)

    The Palermo president (although he talks out his rear end 99% of the time) says it's "very likely" he will be at Chelsea. I'm quite happy about that, considering they cost around the same, Pastore has alot more potential and is also younger. He also scores more goals and has more assists than Modric (who's numbers are actually really low), he averages 3 goals a season and 3 assists. Compare that with Pastore who scored 11 last season, and also creates more chances, it would probably be the right move.
     
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    I doubt very much that Messi has actually written that. Sounds like a fake, a criticism of how Messi is treated by Argentinean fans written by a journalist or blogger as it was a letter by Messi.

    EDIT: most sites that reproduce this letter are from Uruguay, not from Argentina. I'd say fake.
     
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    Uruguay's football success is truly amazing. A country with a population of 3.4 million people has won 2 World Cup titles and finished in 4th place 3 times, won the Copa America a record 15 times and finished as runners-up 6 times, and won 2 Olympic Gold Medals. Plus they've produced and exported countless numbers of talented players to European clubs.

    They are the biggest success story in international football by a sizeable distance.
     
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    Apparently someone has made a £70 Million bid for Hulk. Who could afford that! Real Madrid might of been happy spending that kind of money on Ronaldo a few years ago, but noway would anyone bid that for Hulk (maybe City might).

    The thing that makes it truly unbelievable is Porto apparently rejecting it straight away. £70 Million for a player not even considered world class? They would of taken it in an instant! Surely.
     
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    What with Aguero joining City and Mata reportedly very close to replacing Fabregas at Arsenal, when oh when are Spurs going to sign a big player?!
     
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    I lol'D hard when I read that yesterday. Hulk is good, but I would consider him overpriced at 20 million, let alone 70 million. It was probably City, seeing as they could spend a billion or so on transfers and still post a profit....and still fail to win the league.

    Only big clubs can sign big players, and since when are Spurs a big club? ;)

    They'll sign nobody, they've already got a good squad. No additions needed besides a striker.
     
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    Lol, harsh, but probably fair!

    They should be good enough for 2nd though, it's a step in the right direction. They probably don't realise quite how hard it is to stop Man Utd, Chelsea have had a great side for the past 8 or so years, but Man Utd always manage to find a way to do it.
     
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    Have City reached the point where they could field an entire team of forwards yet?

    Currently on the books, they've got Ad****or, Dzeko, Balotelli, Bellamy, Tevez, Santa Cruz, and now Aguero. Plus, they have Silva and Johnson, who are pretty attack-minded midfielders.

    So, starting XI for the Charity Shield, in a 1-2-7 formation, Hart, Kompany, De Jong, Yaya Toure, and the seven forwards listed above.
     
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    I saw a Pastore article on an Italian website, don't you just love internet translations? :)

    The Chelsea is in pole for Javier Shepherds. It has revealed the vice president of Palermo, Guglielmo Miccichè, taken part to Sport Radius. It has explained: “A lot probably Shepherds will go to the Chelsea, but creed that is many other societies of that level on the boy. It wants a great club, and there are very under way negotiations with important squares a lot. Its proxy is working well and if someone wage the just figure we are happy for giving it. If then we do not find an agreement us we hold gladly. But or clearly: we do not want no technical contropartita”.

    So apparently Javier Shepherds is coming to "the Chelsea", afterall, negotiations are underway with alot of important squares :)
     
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    A Chelsea fan making fun of spending? How much did Torres cost again? Also it's possible that Villas-Boas wanted someone from his former squad to join him so it very well could have been Chelsea..

    Ade, Bellamy, and Santa Cruz all have no chance under Mancini as Roque's always injured and he just doesn't like the other two, so they are all probably leaving. Tevez as you know is also possibly going to leave which leaves 3 + Guidetti if anyone gets injured.

    Also the starting 11 has pretty much been set since March I'd bet on Balo and Aguero starting with Silva behind them then the usual 8 (Clichy taking Kolarov's spot) behind them.
     
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    City do like to go after players linked with Chelsea to be fair ;) Robinho, Silva, Yaya Toure, Adeb@yor, Adam Johnson, Milner, Balotelli etc..

    I'm half expecting a late bid from you lot for Javier Shepherds ;)
     
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    Don't forget Clichy. Although technically a left back, he doesn't play any defense :twisted:
     
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    Giving you Sturridge was enough to even the score though yeah? :)
     
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    Yeah, I suppose so. When he was talked about as a make weight for Modric they were valuing him at around £17 Million, so he's come pretty far since his £3 Million transfer fee. It's a shame Adam Johnson chose Man City when both clubs wanted him, apparently he wants the Chelsea move this summer but Man City won't sell him under any circumstances.
     
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    I know. I was just joking, given that, with the young guys no one has ever heard of, they have reached the point where they could field almost an entire starting XI made up entirely of forwards.

    I saw someone show that Tottenham could field an entire XI made up of only central midfielders. I think when you hit that point, you need to seriously think about trimming the squad.
     
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    Interesting developments re investigations into the FA and it being deemed "unfit for purpose."

    http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/07/29/manual_123319.html

    Okay, tell us something we don't know already. :rolleyes: Plus coming from the mouths of MPs in Westminster, fresh from expenses scandals and other unsavoury revelations, and also with FIFA's utterly corrupt modus operandi looming large over this, maybe it's going to receive a muted response. IMO though, at least the momentum is slowly growing.
     
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    No Pastore afterall! PSG bid €2 Million more apparently and Chelsea wouldn't match it.

    I can't see them getting Modric now either, now Spurs know Chelsea are willing to pay that kind of money for that type of player, they will surely demand the same for Modric. Ahh well, hopefully Benayoun doesn't get injured again this year! :)
     
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    Apparently the move has yet to go through; it's not finalized and Pastore himself has yet to OK the move. A move to Ligue1 from Serie A isn't much of a step-up, IMO. PSG is putting a hell of a squad together and they've got as much money as they could ever want, but they won't catch Lyon or Marseilles anytime soon. PSG hasn't been really good for ages, and IIRC they almost got relegated a few seasons ago. He still should have gone to Chelsea.


    I wonder who Chelsea'll sign now that Pastore has been snapped up. Lukaku, and who else? When will Roman splash it out for a decent central midfielder, as one of those has been top priority for the past several years.
     
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    I think it's one of the most interesting deals in recent times. Pastore said he wanted a step up and to test himself in the Champions League, now he's moved to a team who have to qualify for the Europa League! It seemed like Palermo accepted offers from Chelsea and PSG, so i'm guessing it was all down to Pastore, and his agent to decide where to go from there.

    If i'm honest I don't think he ever really wanted to go to Chelsea, the bid was made a few weeks ago and if he really wanted it then it would of happened pretty easily. He probably fancies a move to one of the big 2 in Spain and this way he can get it in a few years, the chance of Chelsea letting him go to Real Madrid or Barcelona would be pretty slim.
     
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    Ahh I missed that last bit :)

    Who will they buy? Yeah, possibly Lukaku, maybe Scott Dann (although I don't really think he's needed), they'll go hard after Modric no doubt, Hamsik would cost around £25 Million though and he's as good, if not better than Pastore imo. He's the cheapest out of the 3 aswell.

    I think they also want a winger, Adam Johnson is the one they want but City won't sell.
     
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    fixed that last part that you left off by accident...lol :twisted:
     
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    Wow, Sneijder to Man City for £31 Million?

    I'd love to see how Sneijder, Tevez, Aguero, Silva, Balotelli, Dzeko, Johnson etc.. are all going to fit in to the same side :)
     
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    City's owners are going to bribe Richard Scudamore into allowing them to field two separate sides. It will be cool to see Snejider play alongside David Silva, those two would compliment eachother perfectly.
     
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    Maybe, I personally struggle to see them both in the same side. Maybe they could both play behind Tevez, but that still leaves Johnson, Balotelli, Aguero and Dzeko on the bench, plus there wouldn't be much width.

    Pastore has come out and spoken about his move to PSG, saying he chose them over Chelsea as he didn't think he would get much playing time at Stamford Bridge. Really? He's up against Benayoun for the creative position, he'd win that battle easily. If that's really his only reason for going to France, it's a real shame.
     
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    It's not a reason at all, he's just trying to semi-legitimize the fact that PSG's owners are going to pay him astronomical wages and that was the only reason that he really went to PSG and not Chelsea. They're not even in the Champions League, and with PSG's recruitment drive this summer I'm not sure Pastore will start each week.
     
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    If only the Sneijder deal were true..maybe Tevez will be sent the other way though it's unlikely. Interesting that it seems Chelsea finally got Lukaku, quite a few young talented players going there recently.

    Anyway Community Shield today COME ON CITY, SWP to get the winner!
     
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    They were saying maybe Tevez could go on loan for a year as part of the deal. Not really sure who that would favour though really.

    Yeah Lukaku looks like he'll be at Chelsea pretty soon, to go with Courtois and Romeu. Chelsea have got some stick about agreeing to the buy-back clause from Barcelona, but if we get a great player for 2 years and it double's your money when he goes back home, it's not that bad.
     
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    Yup! Lukaku's signed, which although he's no Pastore, he's certainly a great signing, and it's good that he'll get to learn from his idol Drogba and I can't wait to see how Torres will fit in with him up front.

    And what are your thoughts on Serie A this season? It seems that Inter are going to be in a bit of a decline this term. I'm tipping Roma for the top 4, Bojan was a nice signing (even though Barcelona completely ripped them off) and Erik Lamela is quality. I also reckon Juve will turn things around. I think Milan will win Serie A, followed by Juve, then Roma, and then Lazio in 4th.
     
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    Roma will be interesting with Luis Enrique in charge, and they are certainly a stronger team than last year. Juventus have finally sorted out the full-backs situation, as well as making 2 really good signings in Vidal and Vucinic. Maybe Vucinic, Matri and Krasic as a front 3, with Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio in the middle? That's dangerous!

    I have to add Napoli to the mix again, I bet on them last year and they came very close. This year they have Fernandez and Ruiz in defence, which makes them stronger, not to mention Inler to play with Gargano in the middle. Then of course you have the Lavezzi, Hamsik, Cavani front 3. The other thing that i've been impressed with is how they have signed alot of very good back up, like Santana, Dzemaili, Mannini etc..

    I'll say:

    1. AC Milan
    2. Napoli
    3. Inter Milan
    4. Juventus
    5. Roma
     
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    I'd forgotten all about Napoli and how they signed Gohkan Inler! My mistake! In that case, I'd actually go for them in third followed by Roma in 4th.

    I think Vidal will finally be the solution in midfield that Juve have been looking for, thank god Melo left, he was awful. They still shouldn't have cut ties with Diego so quickly last summer, he would have been great had he been given the time Melo was given to adjust to Serie A and the Old Lady's style of play. It seems the whole ordeal really stuck with him, as he wasn't anywhere close to his best this year for Wolfsborg. Had he stuck around until now Juve would be a force to reckon with this upcoming term. Pirlo is an inspired signing too, I have no idea as to why Milan would let him leave in the way he did, especially when he's given so much to the club.
     
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    Yeah, Diego is an important type of player for any team. That's been Chelsea's problem for I don't know how long, without a player to dictate the way the team plays and set the pace, the whole team just doesn't fit together. Last year it was very obvious and this pre-season has been exactly the same. Watching the two Manchester clubs yesterday, Chelsea won't be able to touch either of them.

    If you have no real pacey wingers in the squad, and a midfield known primarily for it's legs and strength, it's not the combination that brings success in todays game. When you look at teams who have done well over the last however long, they all have great wingers (Nani, Ribery, Robben, Messi, Pedro etc..) and/or a great playmaker (Xavi, Iniesta, Kaka, Seedorf, Sneijder, Alonso etc..). Since Chelsea moved away from Duff, Robben and Joe Cole's injuries ruined him, they've had neither.
     
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    Seems like we're signing Alex Oxlade Chamberlain. Seems a good prospect.
     
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    He does indeed, he says he wants to be the next Zola. Good luck to him on that one! :)

    I'm pleased Lukaku managed to get the move he's dreamed of, he sounds like a kid in a sweetshop when he talks about bumping in to players like Ivanovic. Although he's alot more well known than Hernandez when he came last year, hopefully he can be as successful.

    I also just read about Tottenham planning a bid of £35 Million for Hulk :) Don't they know Porto turned down €70 Million 2 weeks ago? lol.
     
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    'arry's wheeling and dealing makes money no object and if it becomes one he can just claim he got blown out tha wateh.

    All I know is the games this weekend better not be cancelled from the riots! Only can get to the first two games before having to go back to Uni and been looking forward to it all summer though I suppose it would be better than getting stabbed!
     
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    Yeah, Tottenham don't like it if you bid for their players, saying you're low balling them. Nice to see they practice what they preach :)

    As for the games at the weekend, i'm sure the ones outside London will be fine. It seemed to die down a bit last night so it should be ok, the 3 in the capital may be postponed as a precaution, but the rest of the Country should be fine to go ahead.
     
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    This is brilliant! Pretty depressing for a Gooner that it is a true depiction of the current plight of our club, but amusing all the same.

    Assuming Cesc and Nasri go, the club really have to focus on buying the right players immediately to complement the continuing top level players we have (Wilshere, RVP).

    http://youtu.be/hDBLSUKJiDY
     
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    So Torres is out with a concussion. It's never nice to see a player out, but at least it clears up who will be starting the first few games. Hopefully Drogba starts out like he's played the last 7 years and grabs the starting role for the season.
     

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