Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by SFrazeur, Jan 15, 2009.
The ULTIMATE Man question: Mary or Rhoda, Mary Ann or Ginger.
No contest, but I think you overlooked Elly May.
Rhoda?? Come on. May as well include Ms. Hathaway.
Do I get in trouble for not knowing who these women are? Pictures, perhaps?
^^ Pictures would be missing the point. You have to have been there and you are either way too young or were way too sheltered as a kid.
"Mr. Drysdale!....oh, Mr. Drysdale!!!....oh OMFG!!!--YES JETHRO!!! YESSS!!!!!!!!!!"
Amen! Hell, the only difference between Rhoda and a bowling ball is that if your life depended on it, you could always eat a bowling ball. And besides, something tells me that underneath Jane Hathaway's goofy "Olive Oyl" exterior, there was a mischevious (and "willing") dark side to "Sweet Jane." For example, she definitely carried some serious freak-lust for Jethro Bodine; I could see 'the Jane' in a leather teddy holding a whip with a naked, choke-collared Jethro-as-dog humbly licking her boot heels.....er, just my 2 cents....rotfl...
Rhoda vs. for example, a "shocked" (with-eyes-blazing) Morticia Addams' (Carolyn Jones) sexy wiggling in that impossibly snug black-widow dress? Or Rhoda vs. a bare-midriffed "Jeannie" (Barbara Eden)?
Rhoda? What the hell was someone thinking? Rhoda?!! That is SO wrong. (puking smilie)
Wonder Woman beats them all.
Sorry, I am young, I admit. 19 in a month.
Mary Ann, hands down. Built like one very solid brick ****house.
Rhoda shouldn't even on the list, unless you're giving her extra points for being a spunky gal.
Now going into "heycal" starchaser/name dropper mode:
Funny thing: a few years back, while I was noshing in a New York eatery, I happened to notice Valerie Harper and some gentleman (Husband? Dramatic co-star?) eating at the next table. Val (I figure this experience made us pretty...you know...tight, so I can refer to her like that...) was starring in an Off-Broadway play across the street.
I thought, "Gee." and didn't think anything more of it. A few minutes later, I was bumped (and it was a fairly hard bump!) from behind in my seat. I looked up and there she was- Rhoda, somehow, knocking into my chair on her way out. She was gracious enough and said "Excuse me." and I smiled. Now, had it been Dawn Wells (Mary Ann), I may have tried to make some time with her!
NB - Though I must say...if the poll had included LAURA PETRY (i.e. Mary Tyler Moore's [a.k.a. "Mary Richards] earlier role in the "Dick Van D/Y/K/E Show"), then I would have gone with her by just a FRACTION over Mary Ann...;-)
LAURA PETRY for the win! She projected "innocent sex kitten" as Laura vs. that almost sexless (and annoyingly wrapped-too-tight) Mary Richards character. I never really watched that show because Lou Grant--though portrayed as some "salt of the earth" unpretentious regular guy--was an over-bearing, postering, know-it-all blowhard. Then there was that 24-carat phony Gavin MacLeod (the "Love Boat" captain) who tried to come off as a good-guy "80's Alan Alda sensitive-male-nice-guy friend" to Mary, but was an obsequious Lou Grant boot-licking phony who took any opportunity to go the company route when it came to "piling on" the one and only funny dude on the show: Ted Knight. What a transparent piece of shiate that Gavin MacLeod character was.
Summary: had I voted on this (NOT) Ultimate Man Question, I'd have 'polled' my vote for the crack-of-Dawn:
Perky yet sturdily "built-to-breed" head-board-banging material. As for what the sexual landscape on Gilligan's Island might've entailed during their many years there, I have to think the Professor would've been heavily involved in a menage a trois with Maryanne & Ginger (pretty obvious), and that Thurston Howell III would've been dropping $10,000-per-shot I.O.U.'s to the ambitious Ginger on the sneak, that "Lovie" (Howell's wife) had Gilligan as her boy toy on the sneak as well (all the while filing her nails whenever they were in full congress: "slower Gilligan you silly boy!...slower!..."), that Maryanne & Ginger--for a change of pace--would "slip off" in order to be alone from time to time.....sigh.....and as for the the fat-but-still-needy Skipper, that he either took advantage of Maryanne's good nature in trying to lay some "a man has needs!" guilt trip on her, or he got the Professor to concoct some 'Love Potion #9' elixir that would send the dim-witted Gilligan into a temporary stupor, allowing the Skipper to cornhole him without Gilligan having any recollection of it afterwards, save for a suddenly confused and incontinent Bob Denver waddling about like a bow-legged duck for an hour or so once he came to. Lucky thing some of us can take this sophomoric thread out of the gutter and treat it with the sophisticated analysis it deserves, eh?
I didn't recognize half the names. I was surprised that the main character of the Mary Tyler Moore show wasn't named Mary Tyler Moore.
PS: Never give guys an "all of the above" option if you really want us to choose.
How did Lou Grant become a serious spinoff from Mary?
Some people viewed his character as strong enough to stand on its own. It did pull in good ratings. Asner always crabbed (maybe with a good reason) that his "Lou Grant" show was not renewed because of his political views, including his fund-raising efforts on behalf of rebels in El Salvador. His problem was that he too often exploited his "Lou Grant" public personna for left-wing causes much like Charleton Heston exploited his for right-wing causes. Politics aside, as with Heston, I think Asner does comes off very much as a self-regarding blowhard. my 2 cents...
I think we need to man you up a bit.
You guys can't be serious, it's Ginger hands down, don't vote on who you think will make you look good, vote for who you wanted as a pre-teen....and where is Daisy Duke ?
No doubt Mary is a lot easier on the eyes than Rhoda, I mean a LOT easier. However, Mary was pretty neurotic which is not often good from a a-hem "practical", standpoint. So I could see where Rhoda would get some serious votes. Mary Ann was shorter, perkier and more energetic than Ginger, and probably more flexible as well. For all of her bluster my guess is it would have taken some effort to get Ginger's candle lit, however once accomplished it is unclear whether the final result would beat out Mary Ann, I would like to think so.
I've actually had all 4 of the ladies in the poll, and frankly, there wasn't much difference between them. But Ginger was just a tad more special than the others...
"8...18...or 80...blind, crippled or crazy.....if she can't walk, I'll carry her."
- 10sfreak, Jan. 16, 2009
Shoulda been Mary Richards vs Laura Petrie. Other MANswers to be determined:
Jeannie vs Samantha
Emma Peel vs Tara King vs Catherine Gale
Betty Rubble vs Wilma Flintstone (or Judy Jetson)
And then there is the question of the ultimate Catwoman:
Julie Newmar <--- my choice
What, Morph? Are you saying Lynda Carter wasn't hot back in those days?
Hard to deny that Lynda Carter had it going on. Yet another gratuitous pic:
<-- click here
Back in those days, every boy wanted to somehow date Lynda Carter. Many of the posters here weren't even born yet, but if you were alive back in those days, you probably wanted to date Lynda Carter and the original Charlie's Angels.
Hey, where's "Chrissy (Snow) or Janet (Wood)" in this poll?
^ That brings up another burning question or two:
Jill Munroe vs Kris Munroe
Julie Rogers vs Any other Angel
And how about:
Chrissy vs Janet OR
Chrissy vs Cindy vs Terri
I preferred Nurse Terri. Priscilla Barnes had a great body for 40 in Mallrats. Too bad she's over 50 now and that body has officially fallen victim to gravity.
I'm still going with Cindy (Snow).
Just playing with you -- insinuating that you may have liked her not because she was "hot" but because she had super powers.
I knew you were joking that I wanted to be WW as opposed to being with WW, but with Lynda Carter at 57, I'll take the newer Kim Kardashian version. Is that considered an upgrade or a downgrade being that Kim is 7 inches shorter than Lynda?
There's a difference between the two?
KK would be a downgrade in my estimation -- a bit too bottom-heavy for my tastes. Butt then I preferred Constance Marie over JLo in the movie, Selena.
Ahhh, seems my reputation has now gone world-wide!
While I admit that super powers are cool, liking WW ONLY because she has powers would be a bit nerdy don't you think?
I was just jokingly asking if there was really a difference between being "hot" and having superpowers for a woman.
Did somebody mention Lou Grant?
MaryAnn as Ginger for the win!
"Oh, Mr. Grant!" vs "Oh Rob!"
Emily Hartley vs. Joanna Loudon
^ (Great signature/motto, Cap'n)
Emily Hartley is the only real choice here. As you may recall, Joanna Loudon and the whole Vermont inn thing was merely Bob Hartley's nightmare. But then again, the presence of Stephanie Vanderkellen made the bad dream more of a pleasant one.
You know, I almost put Joanna vs. Stephanie. But somehow Emily seemed more appropriate. Okay, how about Stephanie Vanderkellen vs. Leslie Vanderkellen...but that is probably not up for debate either.
The downside is that she could always tie you up with the magic rope and make you tell the truth....."Where you out drinking with the guys or were you really working late last night ?"
^^ I'm jiggy with the magic lasso -- who needs a second when you got a super hero at home. Try breaking up, though, and living to tell the tale.
That magic lasso was hilarious!
I was kind of partial to the invisible jetplane -- didn't really work though because she wasn't cloaked along with the plane. Then there were the impervious wrist bands. What a woman!
How old was she? She had to be at least a few hundred years old.
Perhaps so, but she didn't look a day over 25.
I looked up Princess Diana's stats and it turns out she's 3000 or so. Isn't it strange that a pair of glasses could cover up someone's identity so well?
Oh, please. I could do some serious name dropping if I wanted to and were less discreet, and particularly in relation to this thread. But I only mention celebrities encounters when relevant and/or funny or have random encounters like the one you recounted.
One of the funniest posts I've read in a long time, and a great analysis of both shows.
As for the question of the thread, it's real tough. I like all the women for different reasons -- and I like Phyllis too, btw, who positively exuded sensuality -- but if a gun was put to my head, I'd take Mary over Rhoda and Ginger over Mary Ann.
Yes, I'm sure you could.
Sure, sure. Whatever you say.
Glad that's cleared up.
Re the topic: Your summary dismissal of Rhoda calls into question your judgment about such matters, judgment that was already suspect given your similar disregard for Sharapova.
Figures you'd choose Mary Ann over Ginger.
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