The USO surface speed ?

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  1. rfedererfan

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    Do you guys know if the USO hard courts are the fastest hard courts in the world ? Or at least are they faster than the old/new AO surface or the Shanghai surface? Thanks.
     
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  2. Thay are a lot faster than the AO surface whick is Rebound Ace, a lot softer and slower bounce.
    Us Open might be one of the fastest hc-surfaces in the world, hard to compare it to Shanghai since that is indoors but probably something like that.
     
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  3. CountryHillbilly

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    It's faster than AO, IMO

    Not sure about Shanghai. Since Djokovic won it, it's probably not too fast.
     
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  4. backhand winner

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    Australian Open is plexicushion. Rebound Ace hasn't been around since 2007. Nadal won on a pretty fast hardcourt. US Open is slightly faster though but not the fastest hardcourts in the world or anything like that. I would give that to Cincinnati. The heat in Cincinnati might have something to do with it though.
     
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  5. dropshot winner

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    The US Open have some of the fastest courts around. But I think Cincinnati, Basel and Lyon are even faster.
     
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  6. dropshot winner

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    Plexicushion isn't fast at all compared to the US Open.
     
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  7. NamRanger

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    Djokovic won Shanghai due to luck of the draw. He all but essentially automatically won it when Andy Murray made a bone headed decision and expended all his energy to eliminate a crippled Federer, leaving nothing in the tank against the physical Davydenko.
     
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  8. Sorry, you are right,AO IS plexicushion.
    But the heat in NYC in August/Septmember can be very high to
     
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  9. CountryHillbilly

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    Do you have an automatic notice whenever Djokovic gets mentioned? I know he was lucky.

    So, how fast is Shanghai?
     
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  10. NamRanger

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    Fastest hardcourts (bear in mind this is relating to outdoors) :

    Cincinnati
    USO
    Indy/Washington/LA (it's a wash here, hard to judge due to lack of a large field)
    Toronto/Montreal (The Canadian Masters is generally the slowest).
     
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    Shanghai is faster than the USO; it's easily faster than all the slams. I'm just pointing it out that Djokovic won it not because it was slow, but because of luck.
     
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  12. backhand winner

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    Nothing like Cincinnati. I compare US Open to the Canadian Open when it comes to conditions. US Open is played a week later this year as well.
     
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  13. dropshot winner

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    Are you sure? The surface was slowed down after the 2005 masters cup.
     
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  14. Alright, i was in Ohio 4 years ago in July and that same year i was in Nyc in August, NYC felt a lot hotter than Ohio but i guess that might have been coinscidences?
    Anyway, fast HC=Good for the Fed man:)
     
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    cincy i think is the fastest, but the US open can fly too, i think the old madrid hard (b4 it turned to clay) was faster though
     
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  16. NamRanger

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    Still looked extremely fast to me. Nadal had trouble dealing with Federer's aggressive backhand play two years in a row.
     
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  17. backhand winner

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    Might have to do with indoor conditions. It's easier to go for your shots with no wind or sun to deal with.
     
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  18. dropshot winner

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    Yeah, but I'd say the reason for that was the low bounce. Nadal had problems to get his forehands out of Federer's strike zone.
     
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    The US Open surface is a relatively fast hard court, but - like Wimbledon - it has been slowed in recent years. It was appreciably faster in the 1980's and 90's than it is today.
     
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  20. Andres

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    This will be the first year Lyons uses a hardcourt. But I'm guessing it'll be fast as hell.
     
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  21. NamRanger

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    Still same surface, they just say it's a hardcourt. Unless I'm wrong. I thought that was the same thing with Paris.
     
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  22. [d]ragon

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    Didn't someone post a list of the fastest tournaments? I can't remember but I believe USO is up there.
     
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  23. Andres

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    No, no. Both Madrid, Paris and Basel did change to an softer indoor hardcourt, while Lyon remained carpet.

    I doubt they'll keep the carpet, advertising it as hardcourt. That could lead to trouble.

    It's a shame. Lyon and MS Paris used to be my favourite tournaments. Lyon's surface used to be the fastest on tour for many, MANY years.
     
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  24. NamRanger

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    Oh, I thought Paris was still using Taraflax or whatever it's called?
     
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