The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by soyizgood, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. veroniquem

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    Nadal has a foot malformation that has caused him a lot of problems over the years. I didn't mean to say that weight is the ONLY cause for injuries of course.
     
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    That word may be a bit indelicate. Let's just say "heavy". And I really don't think that Serena's movement is her forte but that was not really my point. Last time I made that observation for myself was about Clijsters and sure enough, she hurt herself that very tournament. Obviously, it becomes more and more of an issue as the player ages.
     
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    Oh okay then. Sorry if I offended you.

    Thanks for calling me funny. I get that alot.

    :cool:
     
  4. soyizgood

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    Yes, Barbora Zahlavova Strycova tested postive to some dopping product. 'Tis on Twitter etc.
     
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    Actually Victoria doesn't care about crowds, she booed the French Open crowd at the end of her match in 2009 against Suarez Navarro when they were actively trolling her as per usual in this tournament.

    Victoria is the type of player who really really likes opposition, fight [...] and this is one of the many reasons why people don't really like her because she doesn't care a f-ck about them (e.g., what they think) and does whatever she feels like however she feels like. The medias etc. love to know you care about their sh-t because it gives them a sensation of control not with Victoria.

    I don't really fear for Victoria in the F from that aspect.

    I like/adore that.
     
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  7. Overdrive

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    What's wrong with her?

    :-?
     
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    Really? Thanks for explaining. I didn't realize that. Personally, I don't think she did anything wrong in the semi. She won it fair and square. Stephens was missing too much. I'm really looking forward to that final. I think it will be much better than a Serena/Shara would have been.
     
  9. soyizgood

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    Azarenka got heavily booed for tanking the match against Bartoli in the 2011 YEC. I root for Azarenka, but she deserved the booing that time.
     
  10. bluetrain4

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    That true. I don't think the crowd being for Li will matter to her. I really want Li to win and honestly believe she can, but I can also easily see Azarenka winning as well.
     
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    Yes but this match went invisible because I think it was a 2nd or 3rd round on some outer but high profile court.

    Well yes, Serena/Sharapova matches are very ugly but Sharapova's matches anyways a pretty ugly against any really decent opponent who has the abilities to expose her one-dimensional game.

    I think also that the F will be relatively competitive. Li and Victoria almost always play competitive matches though out of the last 4 won by Victoria only 2 actually were.
     
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    Good, let's hope Azarenka loses regardless of whether she cares about crowd support or not. :twisted:
     
  13. Ico

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    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Li Na mirrored her 2011 AO final, but this time injuries had to rear their ugly head too.
     
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    on the upside, the li na went on to win the next slam she played after losing in the final that year...so as bill murray would say "she's got that going for her"!
     
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    apparently, what HBT said is absolutely correct. Aza really does not care. The entire stadium was rooting for Li Na to win, but it did not penetrate Aza's protective rhinoseros skin. Yes, that may make her a rotten human being, and I agree with you about hoping she loses, but it also makes her the toughest beotch to be world no. 1 that I've ever seen.

    not sure how long she's been this way, but gotta give the devil her due! [​IMG]
     
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    If Serena can get her s*** together at RG she will take what is rightfully hers from the witch known as Vika.
     
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    All more reasons to like her, as she disregards the kind of whiners/sheltered types seen on this board.
     
  18. NadalAgassi

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    Li should be back on the list. New coach and all still a huge headcase in big matches.
     
  19. soyizgood

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    Azarenka is still a non-factor at RG. Serena was a huge favorite to win RG last year, but imploded against Razzano. Serena hasn't seen a SF at RG since 2003. Her fitness is the main issue when playing there. Even then, Sharappova/Li/Kuznetsova/Errani and a few others have equal or better odds than Serena there.
     
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    Li's been consistent at the AO the past 4 years. SF, F, 4th round choke, F. I don't think Li choked in the final. Rolled her ankle twice which took away her agility. Not much she could do in that situation against a semi-pusher except go for her shots.

    I think Li should do well in the spring leading up to RG. This might be her last real shot to win another major. I wanted her to win the AO since that's clearly the major she likes the most. Also her region's major and she's the anti-Stosur even with all the Chinese supporters there.
     
  21. Ico

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    I don't know if the Chinese fans help or hurt her more. Both this year and 2011 she wanted the crowd to stop yelling out in Chinese. She was also pretty tearful in her Chinese press conference. But it's true that Li's performances themselves are better than Stosur's in front of her own.
     
  22. Ronaldo

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    Why dismiss Li after her performance the past two weeks? She may get to the semis at the FO and US Open, especially if she makes fewer errors.
     
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    I think the French is her best shot going ahead this year. USO she's never been that good. And Wimbledon she did make 2 QFs, but her serve isn't that impressive so she would need to avoid facing Serena.
     
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    That is the problem, you never know whether error-na or goat-na is going to show up
     
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    What match is this?
     
  26. NadalAgassi

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    I agree the French is her best shot at a major this year. Wimbledon she can win if she avoids Serena, but Serena is likely to win every Wimbledon until 2016 atleast. U.S Open she hasnt done well, I dont know why as it should suit her game.
     
  27. NadalAgassi

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    I respectfully disagree about not choking. I dont think the injury was the cause of her loss at all. She was falling apart mentally and becoming ErrorNa before the first injury. She also played some of her best tennis of the match directly after the second and worse fall, but then it was back to same old, choking break points, errors galore. The loss was entirely her own doing, and absolutely nothing to do with injury.

    I agree with the rest of your post though.
     
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    I think it was equal parts actually. She definitely was choking, but at the same time I have to think the ankle hampered her to some degree. She probably wins in straights if she doesnt roll the ankle..who knows. I think her serve, which was shaky already was further undermined by the ankle. I think that was the shot most affected by it.
     
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    I don't think the injuries mattered that much, but was she ever that far ahead in the second set? She just started spaying balls, Li being Li. She's done it her whole career at any number of stages in a tournament, stages of a match.

    I don't see any choke. The word is so overused on TW. Basically, if a player loses a match, which, in theory, they could have won (because they they had a lead, because they are generally good enough to win), it's a choke.
     
  30. NadalAgassi

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    She was already trailing in the 2nd set, down a break of serve, and lost momentum and form, when she injured her ankle and made a comeback to get back level, before losing it anyway with a barrage of errors that lasted until early in the 3rd set until her next good patch. So I say BS to the idea she wins in straights without the injury. There was definitely a 3rd set. Maybe you could argue she would be in better shape and serving better in the 3rd, but given her overall performance as it was still very unlikely she is consistent or solid enough mentally to win that inevitable 3rd set even without the falls and injury. She should have won, but she just didnt play well enough, and did not live up to the promise of her semifinal promise and 1st set performance, and her break point conversion rate was absolutely terrible, that is where she lost the match. Her serve was also way off from the start, long before any injury.
     
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    So the story is Li lost it > Azarenka won it?
     
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    The story is: Azarenka at her best is one the best players in the world. The same cannot be said of Li Na at her best--especially since the majority of her career has been less than remarkable.
     
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    Li Na doesn't belong in this thread. She had a great tournament and was up a set in the final before rolling her ankle*, i.e. an injury.

    *rolled it twice, actually.
     
  35. bluetrain4

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    I'd agree she doesn't belong on the list, but she seemed to move and play pretty well after both ankle turns. She simply starting wasting too many opportunities, missing shots, while Azarenka stepped up and played well on big points and played better overall.
     
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    She definitely does not belong on this list. She has had the best six months in terms of her results in her career since hiring Rodriguez(aside from the FO win.) She should have a pretty good year if she stays motivated.
     
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    Thirded, no Na on this list. Save it for the real meltdowns
     
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    I was reading that Lisicki is working with a new coach. Maybe he help her get back on track. Ricardo Sanchez I think his name is.
     
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    I heard about that. I don't think Sabine's dad is as much of a control freak as Caroline's dad. And it's clear she has glaring holes to address.
     
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    Well if the likes of Krilenko, Ivanovic and Lisickie spent less time with their clothes down for magazines and more time on the training court, they would win more games and championships.
     
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    You believe this is sport but they know it is a business. Ivanovic really seems satisfied with her status. Kirilenko plays like a pro.
     
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    Plays tennis like a pro, or plays the 'business' like a pro?
     
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    There is way more money in endorsements for these ladies and the figure of how much comes from profile/image both of which are easy to get without winning (ask Anna K and these ladies' PR agencies)
     
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    And because of this, Ivanovic will never beat anyone that's top 15 anymore... hell even top 20.

    Some of the women that's on tour is nothing but media parasites..
     
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    My pick for the Pattaya Open is Kiri. I really can't see Daniela winning it again. The GDF Suez is really anyones game. Maybe a youngster like Mladenovic can make a deep run to please the french crowd.
     
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    Of all women, Lisicki should keep her clothes on. Too many reasons why...
     
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    So you're a misogynist too? No surprises there. :p
     
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    whats the story with this kiki bertens?

    her bh is massive, and it looks like she just breat safarova again.
    apparently she was runner up to laura robsen for newcomer of the year last year.

    also, suarez navarro has such a lovely ihbh.

    im watching the suez tourny in paris.
     

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