The "What's Wrong With Her?" Thread

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  1. boredone3456

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    Wozniacki has been doing pretty well lately. Dokic was probably a tough loss for her, but she is, at least it appears, really working to get her entire game together and it is showing in her results.
     
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    ivanovic-more consistent and get her toss right
    sharapova-play like she did at the 09 aus open where she didnt just bash balls
    safina-not have a temper like her bros
    more pop on groundstrokes
     
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  3. Kaptain Karl

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    Funny. This made me laugh.




    Um, she didn't *play* in the Oz Open this year ('09).

    Hmm. Maybe that's what you meant...?

    - KK
     
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  4. JankovicFan

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    safina- have her own career without people feeling the need to mention her brother and attribute his behavior reputation to her. She needs to find that serve, some motion with a lower toss. That same motion on overhead smashes/winners goes off the mark too often.
     
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  5. soyizgood

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    4 of our WW girls are in finals this week. One of the girls just played like garbage in losing to another WW girl in the semifinals.
     
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    Score for the one handers, hahahaha! We may not get many victories, but when we do it's oh, so sweet. Love JJ though.

    Great pace on the serve from Mauresmo as well. She could be a contender this year if she stays injury free.

    Matt
     
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    Bartoli: lose some weight and stop listening to your dad
     
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    I cringe almost every time she does a 2nd serve. There's no excuse as to why her 2nd serve is so unreliable and so pedestrian. Her toss is way too high for her own good. It's like she waits a full second for the ball to drop into her range to strike it. Even when she hits the first serve in it typically is under 100mph. For someone built like her she should be racking up speeds in the 110-120mph range.

    If she had a reliable serve she'd be an Olympic gold medalist and likely have a slam by now. I still think she'll pull it together and win a FO.
     
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    I can't imagine how bad her coaching must be where nobody said "oh, you are like 6 foot 3 and you have a terrible serve. maybe we should do something about that."
     
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    Kirilenko went down in flames at Dubai already...
    Dementieva fought to the end, but was it enough? NO
    Mauresmo looks healthy, but can she overcome her penchant for brain farts? SHE DID
    Zvonareva proves she's a legit top 5.
    Mirza showed she has a cannon for a forehand, but needs more matches to get into form.
    Jankovic should focus on her game rather than trade words with Federer.
     
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    Huh? Dinara lost already? So much for going after #1...
    Mirza gone as well...
     
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  12. soyizgood

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    Chakvetadze is hopeless. Lost to a tournament fill-in in Morita. :( Peer would have easily beat this shell of a top player. Anna C. is performing like Vaidisova these days....

    Kuznetsova went down early too. Unpredictability is a sure thing on the WTA these days.
     
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  13. cork_screw

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    ONE WORD, KLEYBANOVA. Lose some weight and stop ducking your head when you make a shot.
     
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  14. soyizgood

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    Dubai didn't do anything for the girls on this list. Peer got compensated economically and points-wise, but Dubai got egged and deservedly so.

    Wozniacki got clobbered in the Memphis final, but I'll give her a pass given the way Azarenka is playing in 2009.

    Safina was 300 pts off #1, but now she's 900 pts behind. Went out early in Dubai. She needs to pick up the pieces and maybe win Indian Wells (Serena and Venus aren't playing there).

    And for those Maria fans, Sharapova dropped to #23.
     
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  15. RealityPolice

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    Chakvetadze is trying to play the power game, with poor results. She's been coachless for too long now, and her trial with Carlos Rodriguez didn't work out. May be working with Lansdorp again on the US spring circuit. Almost done with her psychology degree, which is highly appropriate.

    The broken foot that kept her out of the clay season last year healed poorly and continued to bother her throughout the rest of the year; rushed back into action to play Wimbledon and paid for it. Now working with Pat Etcheberry.

    Fired her coach--or, rather, her father fired her coach and retook control of her career. Another case of Idiot Dad Syndrome. Won a couple of low-budget titles last year, so not a complete catastrophe (although her last four Slam results certainly were). Look for Daddy to drive the bus off a cliff (if he can find the keys).

    Two words: dating Radek.

    The "diva" comment is BS, but Mirza is another one being coached by an unqualified father. Has gone through seven coaches since 2005. Had two major wrist surgeries in the last two years (can't get treated at home in India because her doctors have gotten death threats for treating her). Needs serious coaching to develop a sense of strategy, but won't get it.

    Someone already mentioned the appendectomy. May have become satisfied with two Slam titles, although she did win Paris this month.

    Numerous injuries, and now dealing with a degenerative spinal condition.

    Coaching carousel time again, having fired Conchita Martinez in 2008.

    ...

    Good start to the year--hard to complain. Her mother was pretty sick and missed the AO, which may have messed with her brain a bit.
     
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  16. soyizgood

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    SPOILER!

    Radwanska bageled by Li???
     
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  17. DMan

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    Safina - give her time. Only winnable match was Olympics. And remember, she is related to Marat Safin!
    Kuznetsova - dumbest top 10 player of all-time. (But she is sweet off the court). Plus she doesn't know how to play tennis! She can run, do the splits, hit with power. But it's not playing tennis!
    Ivanovic - not a real athlete. Power groundies will only get you so far. With more training and coaching, she'll possibly win another major.
    Chakvetadze - Overrated to begin with. She was Hingis-lite. Had a good run in '07 only due to absence of other players. Does anyone remember her 07 US Open semi match (does anyone want to remember?) Has always been mentally fragile.
    Hantuchova - Perhaps the most mentally fragile (not to mention physically fragile) woman ever to be in the top 10.
    Vaidisova - next to Kutzy, the dumbest player I've seen. Still can't believe these 2 played a French semis a few years ago. Will never be a top player again.
    Safarova - apart from a few good ones a few years ago, she's indistinguishable from dozens and dozens of girls on the WTA Tour over the last 25 years.
    Mirza - another overhyped, oft-injured, and tactically bankrupt player.
    Golovin - too many injuries. Wonder if she'll ever make it back.
    Peer - a grinder with a weak serve. Describes 70% of the women on tour today.
    Radwanska - what soyizgood said. The next incantation of Chakvetadze. By next year she'll be out of the top 20.
    Jankovic - I think she is a pretty smart player. Still doesn't have the inner belief - even as she professes to love herself and her game ever so much. The serve is always going to be the main stumbling block to winning a non-clay major.
    Bartoli - ugliest game of any player to ever get to a major final. If they ranked players by averages she'd never be ranked as high as she is. Only stays there because she plays a ton.
    Petrova - mentally very weak; for a player of her physical talent, it's a shame she never had the mental ability or belief.
    Zvonervea - had a breakout year in 2008. Will that be the highlight o her career? Or can she do better? Jury is out. The mental fragility is just underneath the surface. In the right set of circumstances I could see her winning the French, even beating a Williams sister there, and having a top 5 year. I could also see her lose every big match she'll ever be in.
     
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  18. soyizgood

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    I've only seen her play once. Her forehand is just awkward. She is a BIG girl. Almost like Davenport in her earlier years. Until she tones her body down, she's just a ball-bashing grinder. At least she's in the top 30 now.

    I'm GLAD she beat Ivanovic at the AO. Watching highlights of that match Ana was beyond annoying with her fist-pumping on basically EVERY point she won.
     
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  19. tahiti

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    Ivanovic - She has great potential , she needs to realise what it takes to keep winning & mature. She'll come back with another slam.

    Dementiava & Radwanksa, I have faith that they'll improve.

    Kuznetsova- Lose weight, get fit, become more agile, she has got to win a slam soon.

    Sharapova- get back to basics, stop worrying about doing things "pretty" she's got the game has to work on accuracy & concentrate more.
     
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  20. Marigold

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    And i'm GLAD that Ana took revenge in Dubai:)
     
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    You don't know anything about Kournikova's tennis, do you? Look it up before you make a fool of yourself again.
     
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  22. soyizgood

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    Bartoli ended her drought with a title. Granted it was against Li Na, but any title will do for Bartoli at this point. Bartoli rises to #11 now, I believe.
     
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  23. soyizgood

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    I'm on the verge of adding Kudryavtseva to the list. She just can't break the cycle of mediocrity.
     
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    Kournikova is a great doubles player.
     
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    Also Kournikova is the alpha mommy of Russian women who can't serve properly.
     
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  26. soyizgood

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    Kirilenko is little more than eye candy at this point. Overrated at that...

    Seriously, she seems allergic to the idea of making the top 20. Never know what to expect out of her. Maybe she spends too much time with the other Maria.
     
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  27. timeisonmyside

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    I always think Schnyder should be doing better than she is. IMO, she should be a consistent quarterfinalist.

    Two girls I hope WON'T make this list: Caroline Wozniacki and Coco Vandeweghe.
     
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    We're keeping it on life support.
     
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    Bartoli and Kirilenko both reclaimed their spots here. Vaidisova looked good in stomping A. Bondarenko, who looks like a WW candidate.

    Wozniacki has been a popular "star in waiting" pick. I just don't see it. More like Chakvetadze (minus the mental issues) in my book based on what little I've seen of her. Azarenka seems to have more of an upside and showed she won't back down to Serena.
     
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  30. Jimmyk459

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    I know that this is going to sound bad... don't get me wrong... women have been (generally) way more dominant than men in tennis past... however, I just feel that with the new form of game with the strings and such, it is way more difficult for a woman to stay at the top for long because of the physical toll that it takes to consistenty go deep in tournaments.

    Back then you could serve and volley your way in... now it is so much more physical. That really hurts the women's side. You either have to be extremely diverse/talented (henin) or be extremely phyisical (serena/venus)...except for jankovic... which cant seem to get it together... poor girl
     
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    what i am saying... in essence... is that women lack the physical capability to keep up the physical strength to keep consistently make finals anymore.
     
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    i feel pain in my shoulder everytime i see maria's forehand. she needs to fix it for the future of her career
     
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    You must share some strange connection with her if her pain is translated to you.

    Must be some unexplained scientific phenomenon. :shock:

    I feel pain in my hair every time Dementieva hits a serve. :twisted::twisted:
     
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    At least Dementieva's serve has improved (wish it had improved in 2004). I wish I could say the same for Safina as there are times I think Safina is better off serving under-handed on 2nd serves.
     
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    wta (everything)
     
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    agreed 10 char
     
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  37. soyizgood

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    Anyone got a live stream of Kuznetsova's match?

    Urzala is killing Kuzy so far.....

    EDIT: Ula won. Good win for her, but this further confirms Kuzy is a mess.
     
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    I updated the list. Took off some names I consider to be washouts, updated comments on some.
     
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    WOW you guys aree sooo cool eh? just bashing pro's. You jealous meat heads. i bet you any one of those girls can beat the feces out of you. hehe lol i jk they really are horrible players except for the williams sisters they actually dont choke as bad ad the others.
     
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    Jankovic walks in to a bar and the bar tender says: "Why the long face?"
     
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    Hilarious.


    Serena walks into a bar and the bartender says "Sorry. No cows."
     
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    I thought we were suppose to be talking about women not men LOL
     
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    Lol :twisted::twisted:
     
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    IW update for our girls 3-15-09:

    Chakvetadze is still a mess, though Peer can be a good player at times.

    Safina's winning ugly, but winning.

    Zvonareva is on top of her game in 2009.

    Vaidisova at least picked up a couple of wins.
     
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    Okay, after IW:
    • Zvonareva finally proved she can win a big event (18-2 so far, 2 titles including Indian Wells), so she's off the list for now.
    • Ivanovic has really improved her play at the net and is moving better. She stays on list as she showed limited abilities to change her game up.
    • Safina has been playing rather inconsistent and her serve is still a mess. She wants to play more aggressively but she needs to play smart and within her means. Otherwise she'll end up like Kuznetsova. 0 titles so far.
    • Dementieva lost early, but is 21-4 overall with 2 titles so far.
    • Jankovic blew a chance to gain ground on Safina. Still adjusting to the off-season conditioning. Also with 0 titles so far.
    • Kuznetsova looks like she'll fall out of the top 10 this year. Azarenka, Wozniacki, Cornet, Radwanska look to bump her down. Maybe even Bartoli as well...:shock:
     
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    Miami has not been kind to our beloved girls on the list. Except for one: Kuznetsova... Yeah, I'm still scratching my head on that one. She's got a tough opponent to face and while the odds are against her, this Kuzy might surprise us... for better or worse.
     
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    Well, one of our WW girls will become to the new #1 after Charleston.

    One guy in another forum mentioned that because Charleston is awarding fewer points than last year coupled with Serena's loss at Marbella assures that Dinara Safina will be the new #1 on April 13.

    On one hand I'm happy she "achieved" this rank, though she'll have gotten this due to a technicality. She can thank the WTA for restructuring the tiered events (now Premier and International) more than she can for her play in 2009.

    I'm a Safina fan but to be honest she does not deserve the #1 rank. At least she's more deserving than when Jankovic got #1 for one week last August.
     
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    Add Serena to this list. She was destroyed by Azarenka in Miami final and just lost to #95 ranked Klara Zakopalova 4-6 6-3 1-6.

    Also her AO title was pure lack and protectionism from organizers. Quite undeserved. She was not playing good at all there.
     
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    How is she more deserving than first Jankovic #1? They are both quite undeserved.

    OTOH Jankovic's second #1 in October/November was quite deserving, but she was still bashed then all over the place for her #1. I am waiting to see same kind of bashing for Safina as well.
     
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    I'm no Serena fan, but even Serena deserves a pass this time. She was visibly injured in both of those matches. Serena was actually trying to keep #1 even though she says it's not important to her and made a cheap remark about Safina for possibly getting #1. Had the WTA not reduced the amount of points for Charleston she wouldn't have played Marbella. If anything, the loss was a good thing for her to heal her thigh injury.

    Serena did not play that well at the AO, especially against Azarenka and Kuznetsova. She was lucky Dementieva's serve went down the drain and that Safina's whole game went to hell. Still, Serena can and does win both pretty and ugly. I don't like Serena's game, her penchant for withdrawing from tournaments at the last minute, her excuses when she loses, etc. But until someone proves otherwise she's the best player on the tour.
     

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